C'mon why not?
08-04-2018, 11:32 PM
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
C'mon why not?
2018 Mustang GT base price is $35,355 that of course has a 32 valve, 4 cam, 460hp V8. Why do you think that GM can't do this? You think mid engine architecture means big money? What about Toyota MR2 or a GM product the Pontiac Fiero?
The base price of the C8 should be close to the new C7 plus any additional standard equipment that may be added. A base Corvette carefully optioned should remain for the Mark to remain viable. A base Corvette is a beautiful car.
What do you forum members think about this?
The base price of the C8 should be close to the new C7 plus any additional standard equipment that may be added. A base Corvette carefully optioned should remain for the Mark to remain viable. A base Corvette is a beautiful car.
What do you forum members think about this?
08-05-2018, 12:00 AM
#2
Melting Slicks
2018 Mustang GT base price is $35,355 that of course has a 32 valve, 4 cam, 460hp V8. Why do you think that GM can't do this? You think mid engine architecture means big money? What about Toyota MR2 or a GM product the Pontiac Fiero?
The base price of the C8 should be close to the new C7 plus any additional standard equipment that may be added. A base Corvette carefully optioned should remain for the Mark to remain viable. A base Corvette is a beautiful car.
What do you forum members think about this?
The base price of the C8 should be close to the new C7 plus any additional standard equipment that may be added. A base Corvette carefully optioned should remain for the Mark to remain viable. A base Corvette is a beautiful car.
What do you forum members think about this?
Last edited by Dr. ice; 08-05-2018 at 12:09 AM.
08-05-2018, 12:25 AM
#3
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
It's the engine
5.0 liter, 32 valve, 4 cam, 460 hp. It's the engine. Can't use the engine layout alone to justify a big sticker. Can't use mid engine layout alone either.
08-05-2018, 01:21 AM
#4
16 Vettes and counting…..
08-05-2018, 07:31 AM
#5
Racer
I have no problem with the me price starting close to 100 if I feel the car is worth it. But transplanting an LT engine that powers c7s could be a deal breaker for my checkbook
08-05-2018, 07:42 AM
#6
Melting Slicks
I don't understand your point - the 5.0 Ford Coyote makes the same hp and 40 ft-lbs less torque than the 6.2L GM LT1, and it is both physically larger and heavier. The Camaro with the LT1 gets better fuel economy (16/25/19) than the Mustang with the Coyote (15/24/18), so what makes it a better engine? In my analysis, the Ford making more hp per liter (about the same as the 5.0 Lexus engine) but the same hp overall with a weight and size penalty isn't better.
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08-05-2018, 09:42 AM
#8
Pro
List of components...
Last edited by ltomn; 08-05-2018 at 01:40 PM.
08-05-2018, 12:09 PM
#10
Yes, they can do it: the V6 3.5 liter DOHC engine that they build for various vehicles including the Camaro makes more power per cubic inch than the LT1. As far as I know, it costs less than the LT1. At least if you buy a Camaro with a V6 instead of a V8, you're going to spend less money, which kind of implies that the engine is cheaper. A DOHC V8 would undoubtedly be more than the V6, but hugely more? I can't imagine why coming from a volume manufacturer.
08-05-2018, 02:07 PM
#11
Melting Slicks
True, GM offers the Camaro as a 4 passenger equivalent to the Dodge and Mustang.
Fully decked out, any of the above can make similar HP and can cost at least as as much as a base vette, but they all lack the transmission/steering/suspension refinements the Corvette has, so while the competitions straight line performance is great, at the first turn, the vette can walk away. (Pending driver capability and all that)
Given Musang is considered Fords highest performance vehicle, then perhaps comparing it to GMs highest performance vehicle is indeed fair.
08-05-2018, 02:28 PM
#12
Le Mans Master
I don't understand your point - the 5.0 Ford Coyote makes the same hp and 40 ft-lbs less torque than the 6.2L GM LT1, and it is both physically larger and heavier. The Camaro with the LT1 gets better fuel economy (16/25/19) than the Mustang with the Coyote (15/24/18), so what makes it a better engine? In my analysis, the Ford making more hp per liter (about the same as the 5.0 Lexus engine) but the same hp overall with a weight and size penalty isn't better.
08-05-2018, 04:32 PM
#13
......that’s why it’s a Mustang......and probably over priced at $35k. Camaro has that base covered, then some. I hope the ME C8 makes a significant step up and personally I am fine with the price increase that may come with it. I guess I don’t know why you are mentioning “crap” cars in a topic about a ME Corvette.
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08-05-2018, 04:42 PM
#14
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
That's fine
Ford goes by that strategy with its new GT. My friend who is on the list to buy one thinks the price is worth it. I just can't see it. No way would I want a V6 over a V8, and where a V12 is on the market from other manufacturers at an equal or lower price.
08-05-2018, 04:44 PM
#15
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Never Said That Fake News!!
08-05-2018, 05:49 PM
#16
Le Mans Master
Originally Posted by Michael A
You are only looking at peak horsepower and torque. That is far from the whole story. You would have to look at the horsepower curves for both. Motor Trend did a drag race on El Mirage dry lake bed, and they were surprised to find out that the Mustang ran away from the Camaro after speeds rose..
08-06-2018, 02:05 AM
#17
Ummmm HELL NO!!! A Corvette is a luxury high-end car/toy and not meant to be afforded by everyone! If one can't afford the car then there are other cars out there. One should not hope or dream that GM should cheapen the car so they may be able to afford it. A Rolex and Seiko tell the same time too so Rolex should lower the price too so more people can afford it??
08-06-2018, 02:18 AM
#18
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
There are still "high end" 2017 and 2018 corvettes parked at many dealerships. Price is a factor. Its good that the Corvette can maintain its own with much higher priced cars. That's been its hallmark since birth. But on par with Ferrari in interior appointments??? Ummmmm HELL NO. The 3LTZ or 3LT helps. But in an everyday driver, its not necessary. Otherwise why would Cadillac again appear to be getting in the game? The Corvette is just a Chevrolet. That's it's beauty.
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08-06-2018, 09:31 AM
#19
Melting Slicks
The Mustang GT is NOT a "crap" car. You are a little overboard in your anti-Ford, pro-Chevy bias. You should form your opinions based on the car's merit, not just what badge it wears. Neither Ford nor Chevy has built a reputation for quality, so that particular metric for which brand may apply doesn't even come into play.
08-06-2018, 10:31 AM
#20
Therein lies the explanation. Consult the list of accoutrements and you will see why the price will be higher then most other Corvettes!
List of components...
List of components...
You just love the word accouterments don't you?