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Old 08-20-2018, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by zhopper05
He doesn't work for GM, and I don't believe he is associated with GM either. GM wouldn't subject anyone to this. When I had the opportunity to see pre-production vehicles, I never took a single picture, out of respect to my escort during the building tour. I never discussed what I observed with anyone outside my inner circle of family and friends.

Usually I don't get involved in threads like this, but I did this time for pure entertainment. So let him stick around and entertain us. After all, this is Corvette Forum.
so, during your tour, if you did NOT sign any waivers saying you aren't allowed to discuss it with the public...

WOULD YOU then come on Corvetteforum, create a new account, just to tease people with your knowledge about the interior only, put up an elaborate sketch in your first post, and then say "i'm scared of GM's Lawyers coming after me if i sketch any more than what i have already sketched!" ???

Answer: No

GM does not even know who is behind his corvette forum account. How are they going to sue him? its a brand new account

If he had a clue what the headlight looked like, he would draw it. The steering wheel, he would draw it. The logo, he would draw it.

AT BEST, the fellow saw an interior to a car, and IT did not have the steering wheel attached yet. THAT would be the only logical way he has seen anything and plays his cutsie games where he cant say what the steering wheel says.

He would get more attention if he started a thread, and said "i am 100% positive the steering wheel says ZORA, I saw it"

GM's lawyers couldnt do anything, and if anyone wanted to doubt him and he knew he was telling the truth, he could bet ever doubter money on this forum, and make easy money on the side.

he didn't do that. He is either a fake, works for GM but refuses to admit it, or he saw a car interior in the plant somewhere without a steering wheel attached or maybe it was covered. Maybe he saw the car at a gas station and the steering wheel was covered, as was the outside.

These are the only REAL options left on the table for Zerv to behave the way he has.

I still think he might work for GM and just be denying it, their engineers are social idiots, and they would do something like this and think they are cool.

This thread reminds me of the "ask tadge" section, you ask the guy about all the wheels bending on the z06 and if they could please offer forged wheels and we would be happy to pay for them at an upcharge during vehicle order, and he writes 4 long eloquent paragraphs that say "we use math, we are engineers, we test things, and btw, What bent wheels? We have no reports of any of our wheels ever bending!? (but we sent out a specific internal order/memo to all the dealerships not to contact us about wheel bending being a warranty item because we were sick of being bugged and our staff's time being consumed discussing with dealerships about people's wheels bending)"

This thread's OP has the same assumption of superior intelligence to where the rest of us will buy into the BS.

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Old 08-20-2018, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pietro c7
Mr.Steven Bell....our time has come...
Theres no better time then now.
thread can stay open, i just hope zerv doesnt post here again

... unless he wants to tell the truth that he works for GM and thus can get in trouble, or he saw the interior only, or the car and the steering wheel were covered, but the interior was visible, and he saw it at a gas station. Or, that he is a fake.

one of those truths needs to be next, we are tired of his lame games.

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Old 08-20-2018, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikec7z
You have the equal mentality to a 15 year old kid who just got internet in some second world country, and wants to be important.... and here you are.

You assured me earlier in a one liner, that you do NOT work for GM.

If you dont work for GM, guess what their lawyers CAN'T do? Harm you in any way shape or form for seeing and disclosing what you saw, had you seen one of these cars.

In any other circumstance where you sign a waiver not to talk about the car... YOU WORK FOR GM, you, or your employer, have to be employed/contracted by GM to sign such a waiver, even if you are a "reaction group" you still WORK for GM.

Sketching an entire interior... is much worse... than a headlight, or a steering wheel shape, or the outline of a logo....

Or even saying "no mike, the way you drew the headlight is wrong, and I will be happy to bet you some money its wrong, but I can't draw the real one"

I gave you EVERY OUT possible to prove you had a clue, without you getting into trouble with GM... IF you worked for them...

but you took none of those options. Even when there was easy money to be made.

I knew from the get go you were either a GM employee or a fake... and the longer this goes on, i see a fake.

What are you thinking? Get out of here, stop embarrassing yourself. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about at this point, you've made it clear. Anything you were correct about, was visible on spy photos, and already discussed in other threads such as the one i started a few months ago.

You should get lost now, you are just wasting peoples time and your own.
Ok, ill try to keep this short and civil, for the sake of this thread getting trashed, after this, I'm DONE, don't reply Mike. First and foremost, I think you have a gambling problem/addiction, this should be addressed, you do realize this is an online internet forum and not MGM? Stop talking about bets and making money, get real dude. Second, yes, I clearly stated multiple times that I do not work for GM, because I DONT. So you automatically make the assumption that anyone outside of GM hasn't seen or worked on the project? I hope you realize there are MANY different people from different suppliers-manufactures, just general people in the industry, who are working on components for the car, who then have to TEST these components? I won't answer anything regarding NDA's for a REASON. I clearly stated above that I purposely made some alterations to my sketch so that it's not spot on, its pretty damn close, but I made modifications just as a precaution. Maybe the car that was being tested was different than the other mules out? I will admit, I got a bit ahead of myself at times just thinking about maybe getting in contact with a mod for credibility, what a stupid mistake that would have been. Honestly, I made a mistake even posting this to begin with. I thought it would be cool to give a sneak peek for some excited fans of the car/brand but it just ended up with so much backlash, as was expected, but not to this level. Nasty PM's/insults? On that note, this is also why I kinda just gave up, anything I say will be criticized and labeled as a lie. ANYTHING. Realize, when people with inside info see this and see the backlash, they, like myself, will think twice about sharing anything. Every claim that's made is met with 1,000 unanswerable questions, and therefore labeled as a fabrication, the OP is labeled as a teenage troll, so on and so forth. So, who cares, your going to see the car in less than 21 weeks. If you really think im that much of a nuisance and a fraud, WHY are you still visiting and contributing to this thread? Ignore everything I have to say and just wait until the damn thing is released. Is it really that hard!!!

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Old 08-20-2018, 10:26 PM
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gambling on dice and placing a bet on being correct are 2 different things.

Final jeopardy, where the people wager money on their intelligence... this is not illegal gambling, it is betting on one's knowledge of a subject, which is given to them ahead of time as a topic/clue what the question is going to be about before they place their wager. And even the final jeopardy has more of a risk/gamble to it then what we have here in this thread, as they don't know the question before they place their wager.

You KNOW the question, I KNOW the question. Now place the wager... there is no GAMBLE if you KNOW you are right.

I offered you a chance to bet against me on the shape of the headlight, and you ran. You have no clue what the headlights look like OR you work for GM (subcontractor... qualifies as working for GM. You are working, to do serve/produce goods, for their company... you are working... for GM. The only time a NDA is signed. Hello there )

I will never bet money when the odds are against me and I have no control of the outcome (vegas table games for instance)

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Old 08-20-2018, 10:28 PM
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It’s time to go all in Mike

zerv02....tomorrow’s the first day of school,
the bus is coming early...
And no,there’s nothing under your bed...
Goodnight
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:29 PM
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for what it's worth Zerv...thanks for trying. I have no reason to doubt you. You made no outrageous claims that I know of.
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Old 08-20-2018, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zerv02
Ok, ill try to keep this short and civil, for the sake of this thread getting trashed, after this, I'm DONE, don't reply Mike. First and foremost, I think you have a gambling problem/addiction, this should be addressed, you do realize this is an online internet forum and not MGM? Stop talking about bets and making money, get real dude. Second, yes, I clearly stated multiple times that I do not work for GM, because I DONT. So you automatically make the assumption that anyone outside of GM hasn't seen or worked on the project? I hope you realize there are MANY different people from different suppliers-manufactures, just general people in the industry, who are working on components for the car, who then have to TEST these components? I won't answer anything regarding NDA's for a REASON. I clearly stated above that I purposely made some alterations to my sketch so that it's not spot on, its pretty damn close, but I made modifications just as a precaution. Maybe the car that was being tested was different than the other mules out? I will admit, I got a bit ahead of myself at times just thinking about maybe getting in contact with a mod for credibility, what a stupid mistake that would have been. Honestly, I made a mistake even posting this to begin with. I thought it would be cool to give a sneak peek for some excited fans of the car/brand but it just ended up with so much backlash, as was expected, but not to this level. Nasty PM's/insults? On that note, this is also why I kinda just gave up, anything I say will be criticized and labeled as a lie. ANYTHING. Realize, when people with inside info see this and see the backlash, they, like myself, will think twice about sharing anything. Every claim that's made is met with 1,000 unanswerable questions, and therefore labeled as a fabrication, the OP is labeled as a teenage troll, so on and so forth. So, who cares, your going to see the car in less than 21 weeks. If you really think im that much of a nuisance and a fraud, WHY are you still visiting and contributing to this thread? Ignore everything I have to say and just wait until the damn thing is released. Is it really that hard!!!

Thats enough
Zerv02 just keep in mind when Mike declares" We are tired " he does not speak for anyone on the forum other than himself.

As far as nasty PM some people on this forum are absolutely rude and childish at best.

I would not waste my time to reply to those kind of folks that go as far as to threaten someone in a PM because they have a different opinion.

I may be in the minority but I am interested in every detail that you have posted.

Don't let one or two forum members attempt to intimidate you.

You have ever right to ignore anyone who does not believe you.

I don't know how you have the information you have but I am interested in everyone thought and opinions of what we will see on the Zora.

Right or wrong it's fun to consider and ponder.

It's not life or death and surly is not worth the insults or gambling over speculation.

Anyway I apologize that your introduction to CF has been such a nasty experience .

At the end of the day most of us come here for information and entertainment. No one should ever take this stuff so serious as some members do.

I can't wait until January to see the next Gen Vette and be able to see what we have to look forward too.

Hang in there and don't take this stuff to serious. This is supposed to be fun!!

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Some of you could benefit from reviewing the rules on hostile posting/personal attacks.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rd-others.html

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Originally Posted by Steven Bell
I'm reading the latest on this thread and trying to clean up the BS and the pissing match and said to myself, "Why?"


Everyone....you are dangerously close to having this thread closed. If you can't stay on topic and quit the BS, why even have this thread?


Consider this a Warning to everyone. Any more off topic and BS after my post, we'll just close the thread and pass out late Summer vacations.




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Originally Posted by pietro c7
Mr.Steven Bell....our time has come...
Theres no better time then now.


^^^ Sir, I think you're right. It's pretty bad when our lead Administrator has to also come into the thread and remind everyone about manners too.


Congratulations boys-thread closed.
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