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Old 08-17-2018, 11:29 PM
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Old 08-18-2018, 12:35 AM
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I don't think we have seen any evidence that the doors don't open any differently than they do now.
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At the 2018 Michelin Bash in Bowling Green, Tadge J. Indicated no interest in doors that open any way but the way normal doors open. I think the possibility of unconventional door mechanization on the C8 is very small.
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I don't think we have seen any evidence that the doors don't open any differently than they do now.
Was just about to say the same thing. The picture we have with the door open looks entirely conventional.


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The next-generation Corvette currently has two working platform names, according to the public LinkedIn profiles, “Y2XX” for the standard front-engine car and “ZERV” for the mid-engine car.
Well obviously there are 2 working names at present. There is nothing further given as to why both of these 2 names apply to next gen cars.

It's just about the most heated debate on the forum, and this unsubstantiated statement is now being cited as firm evidence.

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ummmmmmm. yeah about the doors...
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purposely indirect advert. doors open traditionally...
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Originally Posted by dcbingaman View Post
At the 2018 Michelin Bash in Bowling Green, Tadge J. Indicated no interest in doors that open any way but the way normal doors open. I think the possibility of unconventional door mechanization on the C8 is very small.
Don, after reading this article and realizing that it confirms what is going on this vehicle, doors aside, as well as the fact that there are two vehicles being discussed, I'm starting to taste the Scotch we wagered back in March. Boy, is it going to be good!

P.S. - have you read any of Skank's posts that confirm that the body molds for the C8 ME (Zerv) were completed two years back? And the C8 FE (Y2XX) following them? He did speak to an engineer in one of the three mold plants! This auto isn't going to be cheap!
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What if?

What if the Jalopnik article is correct about the possibility of excitingly new doors?

And what if Tadge, when he answered the question about no unusual doors on a Corvette at the BASH this year, his saying that solely based on what is current Corvette product (can not blame him one bit for wanting to keep his job), his not instead answering that question based on what he knows is coming next about the ME’s unusually opening doors?

And what if, assuming the two above conjectures are correct, GM made a clear decision that while we will send 30+ IVERS to roam the country and test this and that, all with C7 door hinges, yet all of the 10 IVERs that have never left Milford Proving Grounds and the 10 that stay 100% within the Yuma GM test facility, all have scissor or some other “hybrid” doors as was conjectured within Jalopnik’s article.

Just asking? I sure have no inside info on this one.
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At this juncture, anything remains a possibility. A lot of "what if's" but all are potentially fulfillable. Keep in mind that fancy doors will send the price higher.

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They could have hinges like Aston Martin where the door slightly swings up just enough not to hit a curb. A Swan style door opens outward like either a conventional door or a suicide door, but on an axis slightly tilted from vertical, or via articulation in the hinge to angle upward for better ground clearance.


Aston Martin proves doors don’t need to be mega-flashy to have the wow factor. Sometimes simplicity is key.

See, all modern Astons are fitted with ‘Swan Doors’. They’re basically normal doors, but mounted on a squiffy axis that’s tilted up slightly to improve ground clearance.

True, that’s rather sober in this drunken world of scissor and butterfly doors. But they’re practical: when you roll up in your DB9, V12 Vantage or Rapide and try to get out, you won’t have to listen to the haunting scrape of the bottom of the door kissing the kerb. A Good Thing.

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Originally Posted by elegant View Post
What if?

What if the Jalopnik article is correct about the possibility of excitingly new doors?

And what if Tadge, when he answered the question about no unusual doors on a Corvette at the BASH this year, his saying that solely based on what is current Corvette product (can not blame him one bit for wanting to keep his job), his not instead answering that question based on what he knows is coming next about the ME’s unusually opening doors?

And what if, assuming the two above conjectures are correct, GM made a clear decision that while we will send 30+ IVERS to roam the country and test this and that, all with C7 door hinges, yet all of the 10 IVERs that have never left Milford Proving Grounds and the 10 that stay 100% within the Yuma GM test facility, all have scissor or some other “hybrid” doors as was conjectured within Jalopnik’s article.

Just asking? I sure have no inside info on this one.
I believe you had a previous thread that outlined GM’s development process, mostly in reference to IVERs and mules, in which you noted that IVERs may contain a multitude of parts from previous vehicles that won’t be in the production form of the vehicle being tested. I think that the opening motion of a door has no effect on the aerodynamics and driving dynamics of these road-going IVERs, thus they are unnecessary to the testing that has been conducted on public roads so far.

As for for how the doors will open, I think that we can already rule out McLaren 720s-style butterfly doors because the Targa top will not allow for an upper hinge. Lamborghini Adventador-like doors have been done plenty of times before, so I’d imagine that something more unique will be featured on the mid-engine car. I’ll search GM’s patents for anything related to these potential doors.


Update: I was unable to find any related patents held by GM. It may be possible that the supplier holds the patent instead, or there may just be no patent for the door opening apparatus yet.

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I did a quick ZERV search in LinkedIn. I got multiple names including these two:







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Originally Posted by skank View Post
They could have hinges like Aston Martin where the door slightly swings up just enough not to hit a curb. A Swan style door opens outward like either a conventional door or a suicide door, but on an axis slightly tilted from vertical, or via articulation in the hinge to angle upward for better ground clearance.


Aston Martin proves doors don’t need to be mega-flashy to have the wow factor. Sometimes simplicity is key.

See, all modern Astons are fitted with ‘Swan Doors’. They’re basically normal doors, but mounted on a squiffy axis that’s tilted up slightly to improve ground clearance.

True, that’s rather sober in this drunken world of scissor and butterfly doors. But they’re practical: when you roll up in your DB9, V12 Vantage or Rapide and try to get out, you won’t have to listen to the haunting scrape of the bottom of the door kissing the kerb. A Good Thing.
Aston Martin doors are a piece of Art! They're simply stunning in the way they open! Maybe GM is doing the same thing for the C8?

I just hope they don't skimp on the interior. As good as the C7's interior is, it can still use better quality and more attention to detail.
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Saw a decent photoshop made by "Danimalk" on the article. Someone with decent editing skills can clean this up a bit


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Saw a decent photoshop made by "Danimalk" on the article. Someone with decent editing skills can clean this up a bit
Sure looks like a damn big fish, taking a bite out of the butt end of the new Corvette!
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Sure looks like a damn big fish, taking a bite out of the butt end of the new Corvette!
That has to be a fake quarter panel over the real one.
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I miss playing pac man. Reminds of my child hood seeing this monstrosity.
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One of our toys is an Aston Martin Vantage roadster with those very unique doors. Just for a dose of reality..... they are God awful HEAVY and the mechanism that allows 'em to work are hydraulic struts (like you have on the hood or trunk of a car or the tailgate of a SUV). The real world problem is that because of the doors weight, the struts wear out.... ie: will no longer hold that HEAVY door open..... about every 2 years. While that may not seem like a big deal, we really don't drive the car more than a couple thousand miles a year. I'm not sure the C8 buyers will want to spend about $500 every other year to maintain 'em. The alternative is that the door will catch unsuspecting body parts (yours, not your cars) and that will leave a mark (OUCH!)

PS: It doesn't take the 'do-it-yourselfers' long to give up on the idea of changing the strut out in the garage.... first remove the wheel/tire, second remove the inner fender well, next get a helper to hold up the door while you blindly try to separate and replace the strut..... All in all, $500 for the two doors is a bargain. Who said exotics are cheap to maintain and operate!
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