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Old Yesterday, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gthal View Post
There is a lot of misinformation and crap here.

First, there is no debate a ME is likely a better platform than a RE car. However, tell the folks lapping the 'Ring in their GT2 RS that they don't care about design or performance. The GT3 and GT2 are pretty much at the top of the performance spectrum. Could Porsche accomplish even more with a ME car? Sure but let's not engage in silliness here by suggesting a 911 isn't an incredibly capable car. IIRC, the GT2 RS laps the 'Ring faster than a ZR1. Yes, it's more expensive but it's also more capable. You are talking about RE cars from 20 years ago... not modern 911's.

Maybe a 911 will morph into a ME (or maybe the Cayman will replace it... but very unlikely) but Porsche still has a bit a breathing room with their 6:47 laptime until maybe the C8 Z has a chance to catch up or best it.
Yes, there is no question that Porsche has refined their rear engine design to the nth degree. Regardless, they have already started to transition to mid engine (911 RSR).

Within 3-4 years the ME Corvette will decimate any rear engine Porsche except, perhaps, an all out racing machine.

As far as "misinformation and crap", I don't believe that your assertions about the capabilities of current Porsche's has anything to do with my 5 statements. It does appear that you are taking exception to "within 3-4 years the 911 will be a mid engine design or it will sell in severely limited quantities to people that care much more about status than automotive design and performance" which you may well dispute since it is a my guess about what will happen in the future.

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Originally Posted by gthal View Post
There is a lot of misinformation and crap here.

First, there is no debate a ME is likely a better platform than a RE car. However, tell the folks lapping the 'Ring in their GT2 RS that they don't care about design or performance. The GT3 and GT2 are pretty much at the top of the performance spectrum. Could Porsche accomplish even more with a ME car? Sure but let's not engage in silliness here by suggesting a 911 isn't an incredibly capable car. IIRC, the GT2 RS laps the 'Ring faster than a ZR1. Yes, it's more expensive but it's also more capable. You are talking about RE cars from 20 years ago... not modern 911's.

Maybe a 911 will morph into a ME (or maybe the Cayman will replace it... but very unlikely) but Porsche still has a bit a breathing room with their 6:47 laptime until maybe the C8 Z has a chance to catch up or best it.
ROLF! This CF still has not gotten the [email protected] fake record memo!? I feel sorry for you, I mean with google translate and real Porsche clients...and all....6:47...ROLF! There is no breathing room with this kind of comedy...

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Originally Posted by PurpleLion View Post
Yes, there is no question that Porsche has refined their rear engine design to the nth degree. Regardless, they have already started to transition to mid engine (911 RSR).

Within 3-4 years the ME Corvette will decimate any rear engine Porsche except, perhaps, an all out racing machine.

As far as "misinformation and crap", I don't believe that your assertions about the capabilities of current Porsche's has anything to do with my 5 statements. It does appear that you are taking exception to "within 3-4 years the 911 will be a mid engine design or it will sell in severely limited quantities to people that care much more about status than automotive design and performance" which you may well dispute since it is a my guess about what will happen in the future.


Worldwide Porsche sales numbers in 2017.

718(Boxster/Cayman)-----------------~25,000

911--------------------------------------~32,000

911 sales are strong worldwide, so I doubt that the 911 will be disappearing in 3-4 years.

While Corvette sales have fallen, 911 sales have risen.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5 View Post
While Corvette sales have fallen, 911 sales have risen.
Corvette sales have only gone down in the past year. They go through a sales cycle with strong sales as a new generation is introduced until sales drop at the end of the cycle in anticipation of a new model.

C7 2017 22,801
C7 2016 40,689
C7 2015 34,240
C7 2014 37,288
C6 2013 13,466
C6 2012 11,647
C6 2011 13,596
C6 2010 12,194
C6 2009 16,956
C6 2008 35,310
C6 2007 40,561
C6 2006 34,021
C6 2005 37,372
C5 2004 34,064
C5 2003 35,469
C5 2002 35,767
C5 2001 35,627
C5 2000 33,682
C5 1999 33,270
C5 1998 31,084
C5 1997 9,752
C4 1996 21,536
C4 1995 20,742
C4 1994 23,330
C4 1993 21,590
C4 1992 20,479
C4 1991 20,639
C4 1990 23,646
C4 1989 26,412
C4 1988 22,789
C4 1987 30,632
C4 1986 35,109
C4 1985 39,729
C4 1984 51,547
C3 1982 25,407
C3 1981 40,606
C3 1980 40,614
C3 1979 53,807

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Porsche 911 s are awesome sports cars...not quite equal in performance to corvettes but the porsche offers that percieved quality snobby guys want..

chicks think porsches are turds...so its really bragging rights between other porsche nerds.

the 992 shown chasing the rear mid engine corvette c8 is pretty much what porsches do at the track...

cool rides...a bit over priced but i like them and those two little jump seats are good to have in an emergency to move the kiddies..
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Originally Posted by JerriVette View Post
Porsche 911 s are awesome sports cars...not quite equal in performance to corvettes but the porsche offers that percieved quality snobby guys want..

chicks think porsches are turds...so its really bragging rights between other porsche nerds.

the 992 shown chasing the rear mid engine corvette c8 is pretty much what porsches do at the track...

cool rides...a bit over priced but i like them and those two little jump seats are good to have in an emergency to move the kiddies..
Donít pull up to a 991.2 911 at a stoplight. You might get your *** handed to you. Just sayin! As far as the track goes, most on this forum are recreational drivers who frequent a track. If you are a race car driver that makes their living by racing then you are the exception not the rule. Anyone who has participated at Ron Fellows driving school has seen decent talent in Camaros run faster looking out their rear view mirrors than Z06 drivers can run with white knuckles. As for chicks.....you might move up from the beer drinking versions with ARP cards.
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Originally Posted by I-SPEEED View Post
I don't know if you're a real MD, DO or hopeless Mid-Level. I own several assets Including a medical practice and have been on this forum for almost 15 years without mentioning it or other assets I own. What I do find funny and empirical is this: if you really are a dx clinician, you're the genesis of the HTN or high blood pressure you have induced in a lot of people here. If fact, you personally have kept me entertained that I cannot even watch "OZARK". Take a look at my photo albums, I have toys.... German and American and I am torn between buying a ZR1 now or waiting for the untested (YIKES) M.E. vette.
.....just a hopeless Mid-Level, couldnít afford the pay cut to be a doctor and donít like blood😏. As for your dilemma, thatís a tough one. While I really like the ZR1, I would personally have to wait for the ME. I believe it has the potential to be a game changer for GM. Now back to keeping the boys in line😎
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Get the c7 ZR1 ...then sell it and buy rear mid engine c8....then sell it or trade it in for the rear mid engine 650 hp or 800hp version...

problem solved

money no object of course...
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