Question-Why would someone just not buy a Porsche?
12-12-2018, 06:54 AM
#741
There seems to be PLENTY of people buying 150K ZR1s that could have opted for a nice GT3 for what...50 dollars extra month?!
C'mon guys...it is 2018... have to let go on the affordability/class thing...
People of all pockets and backgrounds buy Corvettes because they are deemed a competitive product at many levels. Simple as that. It's called competitive market.
C'mon guys...it is 2018... have to let go on the affordability/class thing...
People of all pockets and backgrounds buy Corvettes because they are deemed a competitive product at many levels. Simple as that. It's called competitive market.
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12-12-2018, 08:01 AM
#743
Porsche fans did not get the Christmas MEMO and won't give up... 
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ArmchairArchitect (12-12-2018)
12-12-2018, 08:37 AM
#744
Race Director
Porsches are cool but i chose an alfa stelvio ti sport for the family transport...
i love this sport cuv ...my friend , my dentist who I hooked up with a new corvette c7 grand sport got his wife the porsche macan....its nice but do I like it better than the alfa? Nope...
was it a question of money? Not at the time ...but hearing what he ended up paying....even he was laughing...
i love this sport cuv ...my friend , my dentist who I hooked up with a new corvette c7 grand sport got his wife the porsche macan....its nice but do I like it better than the alfa? Nope...
was it a question of money? Not at the time ...but hearing what he ended up paying....even he was laughing...
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12-12-2018, 08:59 AM
#745
Melting Slicks
I guess I could have been referred to as a Corvette fanboy when I ordered my new C7 if you were to view my older posts. It was an awesome car and I loved it. However, I wanted to experience something different so I purchased a 2017 911 C2S with RAS rather than a Z06 as I had originally planned. In MY opinion, the 911 has better strajght line performance than my Z51 had with Magride. It also has better front end clearance, better visibility, better sound insulation, better ride and superior fit and finish. These are all traits I personally appreciate in a sports car. Do I prefer the current 911 over any C7......yes I do. Am I a Porsche fanboy in the sense I would never buy anything else......definitely not! I will buy a new C8 if they meet MY criteria. If not, I will be heading to a Porsche dealership to buy a new 992. No Corvette hater here and not a fanboy of either brand. However, I do understand this is a Corvette forum of which I have been a member of for a few years, so I know their are fanboys on here as on any forum. But there are also people on a variety of forums that can appreciate more than one marquee and that’s the category I fall into. Everyone else is welcome to make their own decisions and purchase what makes them happy.
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12-12-2018, 09:21 AM
#746
I guess I could have been referred to as a Corvette fanboy when I ordered my new C7 if you were to view my older posts. It was an awesome car and I loved it. However, I wanted to experience something different so I purchased a 2017 911 C2S with RAS rather than a Z06 as I had originally planned. In MY opinion, the 911 has better strajght line performance than my Z51 had with Magride. It also has better front end clearance, better visibility, better sound insulation, better ride and superior fit and finish. These are all traits I personally appreciate in a sports car. Do I prefer the current 911 over any C7......yes I do. Am I a Porsche fanboy in the sense I would never but anything else......definitely not! I will buy a new C8 if they meet MY criteria. If not, I will be heading to a Porsche dealership to buy a new 992. No Corvette hater here and not a fanboy of either brand. However, I do understand this is a Corvette forum of which I have been a member of for a few years, so I know their are fanboys on here as on any forum. But there are also people on a variety of forums that can appreciate more than one marquee and that’s the category I fall into. Everyone else is welcome to make their own decisions and purchase what makes them happy.
The challenge for GM will be if the C8 is the same price as cars like the GT3, R8, etc. If it is, I think GM will have a hard time. The ZR1 is different... they don't sell a lot of them and they are gonzo performance. However, the C8 (excluding the Z06/ZR1 variants if any) won't compete well with luxury euro brands at the same price point. GM will sell a ton of cars and eat Porsche's for lunch with the C8 in the $80K range. At the $150K range it better be a ZR1 variant otherwise most buyers in that market will just get a GT3 or equivalent regardless of performance. Obviously there will be exceptions to this but until the C8 can establish a brand image similar to higher end performance cars it can't compete there on price. Like it or not, for many buyers this matters... maybe not as much on a Corvette forum but in the market it does. My bet would be 8 out of 10 high income, young professionals/business owners looking to buy his/her first high performance car would pick the GT3 over the C8 if the price is the same unless they are already a die hard Corvette enthusiast to start with. Hopefully, the C8 continues to shift the brand profile of the car.
My bet is the C8 comes to us with better performance and a better price than the Porsche comparables with high build quality and fit/finish. Then, if someone isn't blinded by a badge, you would pick the C8 all day, every day. I can't wait to own the C8
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12-12-2018, 11:36 AM
#747
You guys are truly flat heart-ers and it's amazing reading your verbal contortions to condescendingly portray the Corvette brand as the "little chu-chu" that can but ought to stay in it's little market little corner... content of that humble place bestowed by the teutonic overpriced beetles (911 and R8 BOTH) of the world. I would not wish any marketing department even a minimum of exposures to some of this BRILLIANT marketing analysis (aka pontification) taking place from some of you..
SO back in real world...the AWESOME and UNTOUCHABLE R8 sold so poorly it is slated for cancellation!! https://www.motorbeam.com/audi-r8-di...to-poor-sales/
I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop off... ;-)
SO back in real world...the AWESOME and UNTOUCHABLE R8 sold so poorly it is slated for cancellation!! https://www.motorbeam.com/audi-r8-di...to-poor-sales/
I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop off... ;-)
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12-12-2018, 12:37 PM
#748
In many ways its like choosing speakers, Bose v. Sony. Bose has their 'signature' sound that comes with a lot of prestige, but there is nothing inherently better about it. Sony has a wider range of options, some good some bad, guaranteed to have better bass but also may end up with a more muffled sound and cheaper fit and finish.
Last edited by Atari_Prime; 12-12-2018 at 12:38 PM.
12-12-2018, 01:11 PM
#749
Melting Slicks
You guys are truly flat heart-ers and it's amazing reading your verbal contortions to condescendingly portray the Corvette brand as the "little chu-chu" that can but ought to stay in it's little market little corner... content of that humble place bestowed by the teutonic overpriced beetles (911 and R8 BOTH) of the world. I would not wish any marketing department even a minimum of exposures to some of this BRILLIANT marketing analysis (aka pontification) taking place from some of you..
SO back in real world...the AWESOME and UNTOUCHABLE R8 sold so poorly it is slated for cancellation!! https://www.motorbeam.com/audi-r8-di...to-poor-sales/
I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop off... ;-)
SO back in real world...the AWESOME and UNTOUCHABLE R8 sold so poorly it is slated for cancellation!! https://www.motorbeam.com/audi-r8-di...to-poor-sales/
I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop off... ;-)
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12-12-2018, 01:33 PM
#750
Team Owner
You guys are truly flat heart-ers and it's amazing reading your verbal contortions to condescendingly portray the Corvette brand as the "little chu-chu" that can but ought to stay in it's little market little corner... content of that humble place bestowed by the teutonic overpriced beetles (911 and R8 BOTH) of the world. I would not wish any marketing department even a minimum of exposures to some of this BRILLIANT marketing analysis (aka pontification) taking place from some of you..
SO back in real world...the AWESOME and UNTOUCHABLE R8 sold so poorly it is slated for cancellation!! https://www.motorbeam.com/audi-r8-di...to-poor-sales/
I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop off... ;-)
SO back in real world...the AWESOME and UNTOUCHABLE R8 sold so poorly it is slated for cancellation!! https://www.motorbeam.com/audi-r8-di...to-poor-sales/
I am just waiting for the next shoe to drop off... ;-)
Most people in here have the brain capacity to like more than one make of car, you obviously do not.
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12-12-2018, 03:23 PM
#751
No one is dissing the Corvette so I don’t know why your panties get in such a wad. You consistently feel the need to bad mouth anyone who has a different opinion than you. If you choose to have a $150k Corvette in your garage that’s your choice. I am glad you think it’s the best thing going since apple pie.....as you should. However, their is no right or wrong answer here. It’s simply what the buyer likes best. My advice to you is open to the possibility that people have their own thoughts and it doesn’t make them wrong to be different than yours. No need to be constantly combative with your comments. I would personally like to know if you have ever owned a 911 or C7. If so, was the 911 the most current model since that is your reference point for the C7 despite the fact you are a current C6 owner. Either you have had a really bad experience with a 911 or you have never owned and lived with one. I feel like I am in a Chevy truck vs Ford debate. Thank goodness, most people on this forum can debate without getting personal or degrading in their remarks.
you contribute to the CF and I contribute to the CF and there are always the moderators should you deem my entries overtly bad mouth-ish.
Like alluded by Ferrari 458... I find it particularly disconcerting "some" 911 owners (in this particular thread) are conspicuously mis-informed on the real capabilities of their own car (911S 3.1s = 2x ROLF) yet feel compelled to express pseudo- authoritatively the inherent limitations of the Corvette.
In short- don't look at it as "bad mouthing"...look at it as doing you a favor and nudging you & Co. to reality...
12-12-2018, 03:50 PM
#752
Melting Slicks
Reads rather disingenuous as if you are used to exercise the freedom to post on the corvette forum without rebuttals. To even insinuate I may be "triggered" by you or anybody dissing the Corvette is preposterous the least. I invite you to my 1000+ posts...and I'll cut it short:
you contribute to the CF and I contribute to the CF and there are always the moderators should you deem my entries overtly bad mouth-ish.
Like alluded by Ferrari 458... I find it particularly disconcerting "some" 911 owners (in this particular thread) are conspicuously mis-informed on the real capabilities of their own car (911S 3.1s = 2x ROLF) yet feel compelled to express pseudo- authoritatively the inherent limitations of the Corvette.
In short- don't look at it as "bad mouthing"...look at it as doing you a favor and nudging you & Co. to reality...
you contribute to the CF and I contribute to the CF and there are always the moderators should you deem my entries overtly bad mouth-ish.
Like alluded by Ferrari 458... I find it particularly disconcerting "some" 911 owners (in this particular thread) are conspicuously mis-informed on the real capabilities of their own car (911S 3.1s = 2x ROLF) yet feel compelled to express pseudo- authoritatively the inherent limitations of the Corvette.
In short- don't look at it as "bad mouthing"...look at it as doing you a favor and nudging you & Co. to reality...
Last edited by Dr. ice; 12-12-2018 at 03:53 PM.
12-12-2018, 04:00 PM
#753
12-12-2018, 04:20 PM
#754
Melting Slicks
12-12-2018, 08:06 PM
#755
Advanced
I have both. They are both amazing cars. Some days I like driving my Vette. Some days I like driving my Porsche. I get a different experience from each car and that’s how it should be. If I could only have 1 it would be a very difficult decision.
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12-13-2018, 04:33 AM
#757
2. I though I was the bad mouther?! :-) Read the title of this thread. It is about two cars (right?). One belongs to this forum. The other is the subject of this discussion.
So I put forth rational pro and cons.. but let I dare I find true demeanors for the 911 (arguably still the most appealing butt" out there BTW) and you cry foul and accuse me of not having the brain power to forcibly like both??
I like many cars. I own few cars. I have owned few cars. I experience many cars by virtue of my profession.
Off topic but just to make a point:
My next 2 seater 2020 likely purchase preference (pending new introductions I am not aware of):
1. AMG GT (with discount) IF C7 Z06 discontinued. (I like what I see in the C8 so far. Purchasing challenge remains trunk/travel space...)
2. Jaguar F-Type SVR
3. Camaro ZL1
Cheers.
Signed
Brain deficient..
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12-13-2018, 08:37 AM
#758
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My next 2 seater 2020 likely purchase preference (pending new introductions I am not aware of):
1. AMG GT (with discount) IF C7 Z06 discontinued. (I like what I see in the C8 so far. Purchasing challenge remains trunk/travel space...)
2. Jaguar F-Type SVR
3. Camaro ZL1
Cheers.
Signed
Brain deficient..
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12-13-2018, 12:05 PM
#759