Question-Why would someone just not buy a Porsche?
12-17-2018, 12:27 AM
#843
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The Porsche is still stuck in the 60's they have not brought that car into the future, same round headlights and hood for 30 years or more. Now the Corvette zr1 wide *** low to the ground great lines looks so much better then any Porsches made and is a hell of a car that is why I buy Corvette and have three and when the ME comes out I could have four it has something to do with loyalty to the brand and love of product. So ask me another stupid question!!!
12-17-2018, 12:53 AM
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Why not just buy a Porsche?
Because people buy what they like. If GM doesn't make a product equally as interesting and excited that's exactly what's going to happen -- they will just buy a Porsche.
I honestly don't think raw performance is a factor. As long as its faster than a C7 it will be enough. Slower would be seen as a setback.
Besides people like "new and different". Its exciting.
Because people buy what they like. If GM doesn't make a product equally as interesting and excited that's exactly what's going to happen -- they will just buy a Porsche.
I honestly don't think raw performance is a factor. As long as its faster than a C7 it will be enough. Slower would be seen as a setback.
Besides people like "new and different". Its exciting.
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12-17-2018, 10:05 AM
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My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners and could buy either car. We also (like many) follow a philosophy of spending money (including extra money) where it adds value. In the case of Corvette vs Porsche, that extra money on the Porsche 911 doesn't get you much except a nicer interior (which the C7 already has a respectable interior). It certainly gets you significantly less performance at each price point.
I love Porsches, I really do, but the hype around these cars and the overall brand in recent years is really out of control. People are ignoring the basics, including underperformance at each price point compared to competitors.
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12-17-2018, 10:24 AM
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There are many of us on here who can afford either car, but the Corvette is the smarter/better buy considering what you get from a performance/reliability/maintenance costs/styling standpoint. Also don't forget, the Cayman is around the same price as a Corvette.
My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners and could buy either car. We also (like many) follow a philosophy of spending money (including extra money) where it adds value. In the case of Corvette vs Porsche, that extra money on the Porsche 911 doesn't get you much except a nicer interior (which the C7 already has a respectable interior). It certainly gets you significantly less performance at each price point.
My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners and could buy either car. We also (like many) follow a philosophy of spending money (including extra money) where it adds value. In the case of Corvette vs Porsche, that extra money on the Porsche 911 doesn't get you much except a nicer interior (which the C7 already has a respectable interior). It certainly gets you significantly less performance at each price point.
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12-17-2018, 10:32 AM
#847
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It's pointless to mention that some Corvettes buyers are restricted on price. That applies to literally EVERY car and every car buyer. Nobody but a few people like Bezos have truly unlimited funds.
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12-17-2018, 10:34 AM
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There are many of us on here who can afford either car, but the Corvette is the smarter/better buy considering what you get from a performance/reliability/maintenance costs/styling standpoint. Also don't forget, the Cayman is around the same price as a Corvette.
My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners and could buy either car. We also (like many) follow a philosophy of spending money (including extra money) where it adds value. In the case of Corvette vs Porsche, that extra money on the Porsche 911 doesn't get you much except a nicer interior (which the C7 already has a respectable interior). It certainly gets you significantly less performance at each price point.
I love Porsches, I really do, but the hype around these cars and the overall brand in recent years is really out of control. People are ignoring the basics, including underperformance at each price point compared to competitors.
My wife and I are in the top 1% of income earners and could buy either car. We also (like many) follow a philosophy of spending money (including extra money) where it adds value. In the case of Corvette vs Porsche, that extra money on the Porsche 911 doesn't get you much except a nicer interior (which the C7 already has a respectable interior). It certainly gets you significantly less performance at each price point.
I love Porsches, I really do, but the hype around these cars and the overall brand in recent years is really out of control. People are ignoring the basics, including underperformance at each price point compared to competitors.
But seriously, you are hitting the sports car market dynamic nail in the head. With a softer, kindler touch so I can receive the proverbial wrath of the messenger.
I don't dislike the 911 the least. I have been complimentary of both the rear design, the selection of interior materials, and the craftmanship. 3 positives in selection portfolio of at least 20. 911 does well in other areas like tradition as well.
But like you mention, the dramatic gap between the marketing image and the real car has been widening logarithmically to the point it is becoming really evident even to the least of sophisticated buyers.
Ask Europe...
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12-17-2018, 10:36 AM
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You are correct and I think I made that clear in my post. Again, my point was many people buy the best option possible when they can only afford 1. I understand that doesn’t mean every Corvette buyer can’t buy something more expensive. I was that person when I bought my C7 b
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12-17-2018, 10:55 AM
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I can only wish I was in the top 1%, but being retired means I am basically on a fixed income, not counting on investments which, this year, aren't doing very well.
My one advantage is that I am debt free. I may buy an ME, second year release at the soonest, just to help keep the credit score above 800, which it currently is BTW.
It's good to be alive with all the options available to us.
My one advantage is that I am debt free. I may buy an ME, second year release at the soonest, just to help keep the credit score above 800, which it currently is BTW.
It's good to be alive with all the options available to us.
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12-17-2018, 11:03 AM
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I can only wish I was in the top 1%, but being retired means I am basically on a fixed income, not counting on investments which, this year, aren't doing very well.
My one advantage is that I am debt free. I may buy an ME, second year release at the soonest, just to help keep the credit score above 800, which it currently is BTW.
It's good to be alive with all the options available to us.
My one advantage is that I am debt free. I may buy an ME, second year release at the soonest, just to help keep the credit score above 800, which it currently is BTW.
It's good to be alive with all the options available to us.
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12-17-2018, 11:16 AM
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I can only wish I was in the top 1%, but being retired means I am basically on a fixed income, not counting on investments which, this year, aren't doing very well.
My one advantage is that I am debt free. I may buy an ME, second year release at the soonest, just to help keep the credit score above 800, which it currently is BTW.
It's good to be alive with all the options available to us.
My one advantage is that I am debt free. I may buy an ME, second year release at the soonest, just to help keep the credit score above 800, which it currently is BTW.
It's good to be alive with all the options available to us.
Take it from someone who holds a CPA license.
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12-17-2018, 09:10 PM
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Only until you get your annual raise......unless you own your own business��
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12-17-2018, 09:58 PM
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12-17-2018, 10:01 PM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ear/864433001/
More than half of Americans have not gotten a bump in salary over the past 12 months, a new survey finds, despite a tight labor market that’s making it harder for employers to find workers.
Thirty percent got a raise at their current job, 10% landed a better paying job and 8% scored both within the 12-month period.
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12-17-2018, 10:02 PM
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A lot of people point out the price vs. performance difference of the Corvette over the Porsche, which I agree can be a strong argument. What about the price vs. performance of the ZR1 and the Z06? A new well equipped Z06 can be bought for 80K. Similar equipped ZR1s are selling for just under 140k. That's a lot of extra money for basically the same car with 105 extra HP. I thought about trading my Z06 for a ZR1, but for the 60K difference I can pick up a new Grandsport or slightly used Cayman to use as a track car and still have my Z06 as the daily driver. Does this make buyers of the ZR1 wrong? Nope. Neither does buying a Porsche over a Corvette if that’s what makes you happy.
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12-17-2018, 10:06 PM
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12-17-2018, 10:13 PM
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Are you suggesting I'm incorrect?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ear/864433001/
Thirty percent got raises at a current job.
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