At Carlisle and I have some news come on in
#21
Le Mans Master
The idea that what could be a world class sportscar should be significantly compromised for what must be a fraction of a percent of its intended usage is absurd.
You can not be all things to all people and trying to would be a huge design error. I don't think it'll happen.
The following 9 users liked this post by Suns_PSD:
alienranch (08-27-2018),
drobbins (09-01-2018),
FrankLP (08-26-2018),
gthal (08-26-2018),
OnPoint (08-27-2018),
and 4 others liked this post.
#22
Drifting
Isn't it apparently clear - if the engine is behind the driver... wouldn't there be plenty of storage room behind the headlights?
#23
#24
Safety Car
Every April, the National Corvette Museum puts on a three/four day Corvette educational/fun event, to present the new year’s new Corvette model (or next generation). GM participates fully, providing their top Corvette staff. GM Corvette staff make presentations on the new model, technical presentations on what is new/different, walkarounds of the next Corvette, and bring 50+ (often 80) of their top Corvette staff to be there to answer our questions — including for us to have 1-to-1 conversations with.
So important to me, that annually we drive from the PNW to attend. I am expecting record BASH attendance next year becasse of yet-unknown (LOL) upcoming next Corvette.
So important to me, that annually we drive from the PNW to attend. I am expecting record BASH attendance next year becasse of yet-unknown (LOL) upcoming next Corvette.
Last edited by elegant; 08-26-2018 at 10:47 AM.
#25
Le Mans Master
Member Since: Dec 2004
Location: AZ
Posts: 5,754
Received 536 Likes
on
279 Posts
St. Jude Donor '06-'08-'10-'11-'12-'13 '14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19
I think the two golf bags thing is pretty old by now. Not saying folks don't put golf bags in their vettes but I suspect the 1% rule is pretty close to the actual usage. For me, I want enough luggage space for 3 people (me and the wife takes 2 ) for a 4-6 day trip.
My 2013 Boxster has that much room, don't see why GM can''t do the same.
My 2013 Boxster has that much room, don't see why GM can''t do the same.
Last edited by ByByBMW; 08-26-2018 at 10:38 AM.
#26
Team Owner
I think the two golf bags thing is pretty old by now. Not saying folks don't put golf bags in their vettes but I suspect the 1% rule is pretty close to the actual usage. For me, I want enough luggage space for 3 people (me and the wife takes 2 ) for a 4-6 day trip.
My 2013 Boxster has that much room, don't see why GM can''t do the same.
My 2013 Boxster has that much room, don't see why GM can''t do the same.
We did 2 weeks out West including Ron Fellows. We took enough in the car to get us out there, shipped the rest. Got done with our trip, boxed it up and FedEx'd it home leaving just enough in the car to get back home.
We did this because we wanted to drive with the top off at much as possible.
The following 4 users liked this post by NoOne:
#27
Melting Slicks
Well... I asked because I needed to know. The answer I got was very pleasing in relation to storage space. I asked someone who has become a friend over the last couple of years and knows everything there is to know about the ME car if in 2 or 3 years I could still buy a front-engine rear-wheel-drive Corvette because I don't want to lose my storage space it's not what I want out of my Corvette and the answer I got was pretty gloomy sounds like it's going to be negative Which flies in the face of everything I was told prior.
but I was told Flatout straight to my face not to worry about storage space it will be a non-issue and I was very skeptical it was then elaborated that you could fit two golf bags in the new car and you're going to be very happy at which point I advised this person I was going to The Bash this year and they confirmed by saying you're going to love the batch this year that's all I can say.
but I was told Flatout straight to my face not to worry about storage space it will be a non-issue and I was very skeptical it was then elaborated that you could fit two golf bags in the new car and you're going to be very happy at which point I advised this person I was going to The Bash this year and they confirmed by saying you're going to love the batch this year that's all I can say.
He really didn’t reveal anything new,it’s very logical.
Pricepoint,performance and practicality (cargo capacity)are core corvette prerequisites,And always have been on the entry models.
Thanks for sharing .
#28
Team Owner
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Northern, VA
Posts: 46,104
Received 2,481 Likes
on
1,944 Posts
St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
^^^ Yes, I understand what you're saying and agree with most of it. If there's any variance, however, it's in what Colorado posted above. Will the buyer get both a car that is sleek AND capable of going on a trip for two without sending clothing ahead? Can both be accomplished in one car? We will see, right?
By no means am I doubting 16/C or any other expert, but it's what we've heard now, and the cars are not out yet.
By no means am I doubting 16/C or any other expert, but it's what we've heard now, and the cars are not out yet.
#29
Banned Scam/Spammer
Member Since: Sep 2016
Location: Philadelphia PA (Birthplace of the USA, UNESCO World Heritage City)
Posts: 4,004
Received 3,916 Likes
on
1,616 Posts
Golf is for old folks, and a dying sport. Car should be designed to fit large luggage, not some arbitrary sport.
Last edited by ArmchairArchitect; 08-26-2018 at 12:00 PM.
The following 2 users liked this post by ArmchairArchitect:
dcbingaman (08-30-2018),
pdiddy972 (09-02-2018)
#30
Melting Slicks
Member Since: May 2007
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 2,348
Received 99 Likes
on
74 Posts
2015 C7 of Year Finalist
Every April, the National Corvette Museum puts on a three/four day Corvette educational/fun event, to present the new year’s new Corvette model (or next generation). GM participates fully, providing their top Corvette staff. GM Corvette staff make presentations on the new model, technical presentations on what is new/different, walkarounds of the next Corvette, and bring 50+ (often 80) of their top Corvette staff to be there to answer our questions — including for us to have 1-to-1 conversations with.
So important to me, that annually we drive from the PNW to attend. I am expecting record BASH attendance next year because of yet-unknown (LOL) upcoming next Corvette.
Let's not forget next year is a VERY important year, being the 25th Anniversary of the National Corvette Museum. I have a feeling we will get to see the ME up-close at the next bash.
#31
I believe you got very accurate information,you came across a truthful corvette guy .
He really didn’t reveal anything new,it’s very logical.
Pricepoint,performance and practicality (cargo capacity)are core corvette prerequisites,And always have been on the entry models.
Thanks for sharing .
I don't need to lug around golf clubs in a world class sports car.
The C8 is not a GT any longer just by definition. I know of no mid engine that double as a great GT car.
My 458 has room for a couple soft bags in the frunk and a little storage behind the seats and it works just great for a 3 day weekend away.
I just hope GM does not try to make a mid engine super car and a GT rolled into one.
That would cause compromised design for a great mid engine and compromised issue for a great GT.
Also how many guys that Golf and have a Corvette do not have a second or 3rd or 4th vehicle to drag there clubs around in.
Most Vett guys I know don't daily their Corvette. That can be clearly seen by the thousands of low milage Corvette that can be found for sale.
I don't know the percentage but I think it would be less than 20% of guys who daily their Corvette and it's the only car in the household .
Last edited by vetteman41960; 08-26-2018 at 03:02 PM.
The following 2 users liked this post by vetteman41960:
Basil2000 (08-30-2018),
PurpleLion (08-26-2018)
#32
Melting Slicks
^^^ Yes, I understand what you're saying and agree with most of it. If there's any variance, however, it's in what Colorado posted above. Will the buyer get both a car that is sleek AND capable of going on a trip for two without sending clothing ahead? Can both be accomplished in one car? We will see, right?
By no means am I doubting 16/C or any other expert, but it's what we've heard now, and the cars are not out yet.
By no means am I doubting 16/C or any other expert, but it's what we've heard now, and the cars are not out yet.
I don’t expect an exposed engine,And from what I read from the leaked CAD’s,the engine sits lower then
a conventional mid engine.Hence wouldn’t be surprised to see 14 cubic feet behind the seats,and under the hatch.
#33
Team Owner
#34
Team Owner
I'm kidding obviously. The point is that fittiing two golf bags in to a Corvette should not be a design criteria.
The idea that what could be a world class sportscar should be significantly compromised for what must be a fraction of a percent of its intended usage is absurd.
You can not be all things to all people and trying to would be a huge design error. I don't think it'll happen.
The idea that what could be a world class sportscar should be significantly compromised for what must be a fraction of a percent of its intended usage is absurd.
You can not be all things to all people and trying to would be a huge design error. I don't think it'll happen.
While certain models of the Corvette have strived to reach supercar status, the vast majority of people did not purchases their Corvette for that reason.
I bet more people use the 15 cu ft cargo room in their Corvette to haul "stuff"(like enough clothes, etc for a two week road trip) then those that drive at 10/10 on a race track and haul nothing in the cargo area while on the track..
The following 3 users liked this post by JoesC5:
#35
There’s every reason to believe the future Mid engine corvette buyer will get a sleek car ,and the ability to carry cargo very close to the C7 coupe.
I don’t expect an exposed engine,And from what I read from the leaked CAD’s,the engine sits lower then
a conventional mid engine.Hence wouldn’t be surprised to see 14 cubic feet behind the seats,and under the hatch.
I don’t expect an exposed engine,And from what I read from the leaked CAD’s,the engine sits lower then
a conventional mid engine.Hence wouldn’t be surprised to see 14 cubic feet behind the seats,and under the hatch.
#36
Melting Slicks
They haven’t made an ugly corvette in 7 generations,
Im sure they’ll sacrifice a cubit foot or two if they have to to ensure it remains beautiful .We shouldn’t be worried .
Their biggest design challenge is gonna be foregoing the long hood.
Im sure they’ll sacrifice a cubit foot or two if they have to to ensure it remains beautiful .We shouldn’t be worried .
Their biggest design challenge is gonna be foregoing the long hood.
#37
I'm kidding obviously. The point is that fittiing two golf bags in to a Corvette should not be a design criteria.
The idea that what could be a world class sportscar should be significantly compromised for what must be a fraction of a percent of its intended usage is absurd.
You can not be all things to all people and trying to would be a huge design error. I don't think it'll happen.
The idea that what could be a world class sportscar should be significantly compromised for what must be a fraction of a percent of its intended usage is absurd.
You can not be all things to all people and trying to would be a huge design error. I don't think it'll happen.
Last edited by traind; 08-26-2018 at 03:26 PM.
#38
Race Director
Thread Starter
Glad this thread has continued to develop into a wishlist and critique moment.
I would like to explain that the person who spoke with me and referenced the two golf bags was doing so for the purpose of explaining cargo capacity which was my concern.
This right here is as important to me as running circles around most other cars on the road. I want my cake amd to eat it too. I found that answer to be soothing as my biggest concern is losing the practicality that corvette has been for 65 years.. i mean its worked so far. And if this car turned into one where it wasn't fun to drive and throw some luggage in for a week getaway? I wouldn't own it. I think that porsche, like Chevy, has kept space for getaways in their design (hatch for a c7 and fake rear seat space in the 911) because they know it sways many to keep coming back.
I would like to explain that the person who spoke with me and referenced the two golf bags was doing so for the purpose of explaining cargo capacity which was my concern.
This right here is as important to me as running circles around most other cars on the road. I want my cake amd to eat it too. I found that answer to be soothing as my biggest concern is losing the practicality that corvette has been for 65 years.. i mean its worked so far. And if this car turned into one where it wasn't fun to drive and throw some luggage in for a week getaway? I wouldn't own it. I think that porsche, like Chevy, has kept space for getaways in their design (hatch for a c7 and fake rear seat space in the 911) because they know it sways many to keep coming back.
Last edited by 23/C8Z; 08-26-2018 at 07:38 PM.
#39