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Old 10-07-2018, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gthal
How are you making ANY conclusions on ride harshness? You seem to "know" more about the car (what tires, specific suspension, etc) than anyone Assuming you really don't, your conclusions are completely guesses and not relevant. Ride harshness won't be an issue... this isn't a track only car. Tires will be completely street worthy... when we actually know what they are. I run Sport Cup 2 tires and they are great street tires.
Have you read the reviews of the Camaro ZL1 1LE? It uses spool valve shocks to achieve maximum handling performance. That is also the objective for the Zora so spool valves are the logical answer. The ride quality of the Camaro is very harsh and that is exactly what is likely for Zora which is designed to beat anything under $200K on the track. Zora is a hard core track car with a mission to win. No doubt it will.
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If the interior is like that shown in the jcsperson video, I am out.
Old 10-07-2018, 09:44 AM
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Have you read the reviews of the Camaro ZL1 1LE? It uses spool valve shocks to achieve maximum handling performance. That is also the objective for the Zora so spool valves are the logical answer. The ride quality of the Camaro is very harsh and that is exactly what is likely for Zora which is designed to beat anything under $200K on the track. Zora is a hard core track car with a mission to win. No doubt it will.
Maybe...

You are assuming all variants of the C8 will be extreme and that the C8 will be a hard core track car. Are all variants of the Camaro extreme? A GT3/4, a 488 and other similar cars are all extremely capable on the track and all are very liveable with adaptive suspension on the streets. What is in it for GM to do anything different.

I see your line of thinking but you are making a lot of assumptions along the way that I don't believe will prove to be reality.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Have you read the reviews of the Camaro ZL1 1LE? It uses spool valve shocks to achieve maximum handling performance. That is also the objective for the Zora so spool valves are the logical answer. The ride quality of the Camaro is very harsh and that is exactly what is likely for Zora which is designed to beat anything under $200K on the track. Zora is a hard core track car with a mission to win. No doubt it will.
Please don’t take it as an insult,
but...your views are way off.

Thinking out of the box is nice...but,you can’t ignore certain features of basic economics.
Old 10-07-2018, 12:43 PM
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Seems that every one is wanting a full bore race car. That is not for me. I don’t do track day, don’t street race, don’t need aero for 200+ mph, don’t need 800+ hp, don’t need turbos or superchargers, etc, etc.
I just need a great GT car that the wife and I can get in and take off across country for a week. Since the C4 the Vette has been a great road car, one of the best for road trips. Guess that what I would buy is the base car or maybe a Z51 equivalent car. I will leave the Z06/ZR1 cars to the track guys or street racers. Those don’t have anything to offer for me.
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ColoradoGS
Wow!

Looks like Mr John T was right about the side scoops!
So far it looks like a pass on that car. C7 Z06 still is the winner over that car.
Front looks too short. Not liking the look so far.
Old 10-09-2018, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
So far it looks like a pass on that car. C7 Z06 still is the winner over that car.
Front looks too short. Not liking the look so far.
Name one mid-engine car with a long front end!
Old 10-10-2018, 01:38 AM
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Default It's not about a long front end...

Originally Posted by ACCHRM
Name one mid-engine car with a long front end!
It's about sleek, low, and streamlined, vs gaping mouth and blunt.
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect
No point, the extra weight of luxury features from it being a Cadillac will negate any performance improvement from it being ME. FE is better for GT cars like Cadillacs, ME is better for more purist sports/performance cars.
ME placement also enhances chassis dynamics which would remain even after the added NVH damping and accoustic glass.

Yet there's no need for a Cadillac version to do this. Chevy can just offer a Grand Touring sub-model with Cadillac-level NVH damping. I could be wrong, but I'd wager that most Manta Ray GT buyers would probably accept the trade off of a hair slower 0-60 for road trippin' comfort.

The trade off won't even be all that significant. Cadillac's ATS-V does 0-60 in 3.7 seconds, about the same as a Corvette Grand Sport despite the extra NVH damping materials.
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Originally Posted by ACCHRM
Name one mid-engine car with a long front end!
How about this one, GM built too!


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Originally Posted by C7pimp
Well, I'd say me and FirstVetteSoon got pretty damn close, don't ya think?




sure hope it is at least as nice looking as the red



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