Clues point to base engine is turbo V6
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90* V8 DOHC possibly but unlikely TT at this time. I think they are short shifting at low rpm as they have been doing on road tests to disguise engine and transmission sounds/characteristics.
#43
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STANdard engine first year will be a derivative of todays LT1 producing around 500 hp.
take that to the bank.
take that to the bank.
#44
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They will not build a new 90 degree v6, the lop 2 cylinders off a v8 concept. News of new large displacement v6 would be hard to hide, the rumor mill would have it in trucks. With Ford and the flat plane ...GM's LS has alot of issues particularly when they went into the trucks. Then GM made concerns normal characteristics. The ME configuration is going to change the sound, there no long straight exhaust. They aren't going to run the "nest of snakes" GT40 exhaust either.
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Yes that Ford GT
The 500 per year celebrity only, will rarely ever see a track Ford GT, yes that one. It's a joke they allow it to compete in GTLM as a 'production' vehicle when it is essentially, anything but.
#47
Also, can we talk about how the leaked c8r sounds IDENTICAL to the Ford GT race car?
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#49
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Well something is different. listen to the two vids and the C7 is clearly straight up V8. Maybe they changed up the exhaust to get a more Euopean sound but there are definately times I question it being a V8 in the vid.
I hate change to and would hate a V6 but emissions is getting tough. I'm rooting for the V8 but something is very different here,
Dan
I hate change to and would hate a V6 but emissions is getting tough. I'm rooting for the V8 but something is very different here,
Dan
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The plot thickens...
From Road & Track,
"Audio recorded at the track reveals that the C8.R isn't packing a V8, but rather, an engine that sounds an awful lot like the turbocharged V6 from the Ford GT. What does that mean for the road car? Who knows. IMSA has let automakers enter race cars with different engine's than their road-car counterparts."
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...e-2018-rumors/
From Road & Track,
"Audio recorded at the track reveals that the C8.R isn't packing a V8, but rather, an engine that sounds an awful lot like the turbocharged V6 from the Ford GT. What does that mean for the road car? Who knows. IMSA has let automakers enter race cars with different engine's than their road-car counterparts."
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...e-2018-rumors/
#53
I've heard some of these Corsa exhaust sound like anything but a V8. European sound to me. A friend of mine put a set of 180 degree headers on his super late model dirt car. You should have heard that thing, sounded just like a six cylinder and it was anything but.. They can manipulate the sound with the exhaust system. I think everyone can agree on that. I for one would be pretty disappointed with anything less than a V8 in a corvette. Just me, my opinion, isn't worth much.
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#54
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Listen to what he said at 41:25. I seriously doubt they would make the base model a V6 if the C8R and Z06 versions if exist, will be a V8 twin turbo.
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I've heard some of these Corsa exhaust sound like anything but a V8. European sound to me. A friend of mine put a set of 180 degree headers on his super late model dirt car. You should have heard that thing, sounded just like a six cylinder and it was anything but.. They can manipulate the sound with the exhaust system. I think everyone can agree on that. I for one would be pretty disappointed with anything less than a V8 in a corvette. Just me, my opinion, isn't worth much.
Stafford
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love the sound of corsa. ... my favorite all time ..
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Hell yes the cars in the two videos sound different, but there are a lot of things that can account for that OTHER THAN a V8 vs V6 engine and some of which can be external to the car itself (such as different microphones and other variables that play into capturing acoustics out in the field). Add to that the exhaust system for a ME car is going to be different than a FE car (routing, length of system, types of resonators/cats/mufflers, etc) and even an identical engine is going to sound different between the two cars. Is the driver in each video going for all out performance or more of a spirited "around town" drive? Given all of that, I wouldn't expect the two videos to sound the same regardless of the V-8 vs V-6 argument.
Would it make sense, either from a cost or marketing perspective, to introduce the car as a V-6 and then introduce a V-8? I wouldn't go that direction if it were my money and company for a couple reasons. The low-cost option would be to plan the car around a particular engine envelope for layout and handling, etc. There's much less costs and trade-offs/risks going from one V-8 variant to another versus going from a V-6 to a V-8. Face it, the Corvette doesn't have the annual unit sales to support the costs associated with too much variation between models. But the Camaro.....that's a different animal. The market size/segmentation for that car expands with each engine type offered and therefore justifies 3 different engine types, thus making the investment pay off to configure that car accordingly at the design phase.
From a cost perspective, the LT1 already exists and only gets cheaper (total costs of production) if the Corvette is included with the other GM models using this engine. From a marketing perspective, why put out anything other than a LT1 derivative into the C8? The C8 would gain less from a marketing perspective if it came out with a V-6 instead of a V-8. That's my opinion, I'll admit to that. But the marketing Gods are tasked with a Corvette heritage and lineage to protect. A V-8 in the base C8 would help achieve and promote that instead of possibly causing a defensive position with a V-6 turbo. Again, that's my opinion.
It seems that every new generation of Corvette lately has brought out the rumors that the V-8 will be facing limited offering (or eliminated) in at least the base model (Hell, I remember that discussion when the C4 was being rumored and designed...damn I'm old....). And what did we get with the C7?? A new and more powerful version of the V-8 with the LT1!! I'm going with what post #23 quoted above. My gut tells me that the base will have the next iteration of the LT1 (LTX??) when it rolls out with more V-8 derivatives moving into the higher level models as the C8 progresses. Time will tell........it's all speculation at this time, isn't it......
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Well something is different. listen to the two vids and the C7 is clearly straight up V8. Maybe they changed up the exhaust to get a more Euopean sound but there are definately times I question it being a V8 in the vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=lHeVxzZidco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZdYpdmPk54
I hate change to and would hate a V6 but emissions is getting tough. I'm rooting for the V8 but something is very different here,
Dan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=lHeVxzZidco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZdYpdmPk54
I hate change to and would hate a V6 but emissions is getting tough. I'm rooting for the V8 but something is very different here,
Dan
Last edited by Michael A; 09-11-2018 at 10:06 PM.