Jim Mero's retired...who's doing the Nurburgring testing?
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Jim Mero's retired...who's doing the Nurburgring testing?
Title says it all...anyone know who took Jim's place as resident Corvette hotshoe?
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Melting Slicks
Alex McDonald. I heard over two years ago that he was lapping faster than Mero at the Nordshliefe. Matt Satchell also. I met him at the Motor Trend Best Drivers test this year.
https://autoweek.com/article/superca...alex-macdonald
https://www.wardsauto.com/test-drive...ow-your-limits
https://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/122/articles/reaching-the-apex#.W5hOuy2ZP-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqENJ0SghKQ
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-latest/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-first-review-best-of-the-best/2000011604/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/05/2019-c7-corvette-zr1-claims-vir-full-course-record-video/
https://autoweek.com/article/superca...alex-macdonald
https://www.wardsauto.com/test-drive...ow-your-limits
https://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/122/articles/reaching-the-apex#.W5hOuy2ZP-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqENJ0SghKQ
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-latest/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-first-review-best-of-the-best/2000011604/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/05/2019-c7-corvette-zr1-claims-vir-full-course-record-video/
Last edited by skank; 09-11-2018 at 08:01 PM.
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Hopefully now they'll have a professional race car drive from Corvette Racing go for the hot laps @ Nurburgring. But one can only hope!
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Good points, Shaka!
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All of the fastest cars at the ring have professional factory drivers setting their times. Mero has more than held his own over the years. But to think he's faster alone than sending 2 or 3 corvette racing drivers to the ring and hot lapping a few cars like the other manufacturers are doing is not accurate.
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Slightly different prospective: fast doers not mean a racer. In The Unfair Advantage, Martk D mentions being unable to match Mero's speed on a "skid square" (that's a square area GM uses that has quarter radiused corners for setting and testing the balance of a car). That doesn't mean Mero would beat anyone in a race or maybe he could. Just means diffeent conitions bring out different results. On an empty track it is possible that Mero would beat the team drivers, in the 24 hours of LeMans, that's open to seeing.
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What I will say is that whoever drives the C8 around the ‘Ring is analysing so many factors with each mile driven, that, by the time he goes for a hot lap, he is gonna know that car’s capabilities backwards and forwards. Only the very best race drivers are as good as setting up a car, and then not for all round use. Street and track both. There have been some world best race drivers that were noted for their excellence at communicating to the engineers just what to change to best set up a race car for a particular track. Even they never had to include how to set it up for street use.
So, my point is, whoever is driving it there, he is the right guy for the job, to be sure, and will wring the best possible times out when he goes for it.
So, my point is, whoever is driving it there, he is the right guy for the job, to be sure, and will wring the best possible times out when he goes for it.
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Alex McDonald. I heard over two years ago that he was lapping faster than Mero at the Nordshliefe. Matt Satchell also. I met him at the Motor Trend Best Drivers test this year.
https://autoweek.com/article/superca...alex-macdonald
https://www.wardsauto.com/test-drive...ow-your-limits
https://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/122/articles/reaching-the-apex#.W5hOuy2ZP-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqENJ0SghKQ
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-latest/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-first-review-best-of-the-best/2000011604/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/05/2019-c7-corvette-zr1-claims-vir-full-course-record-video/
https://autoweek.com/article/superca...alex-macdonald
https://www.wardsauto.com/test-drive...ow-your-limits
https://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/122/articles/reaching-the-apex#.W5hOuy2ZP-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqENJ0SghKQ
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-latest/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-first-review-best-of-the-best/2000011604/
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/05/2019-c7-corvette-zr1-claims-vir-full-course-record-video/
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Somba master
I would say that his times will have improved greatly by the time he puts the spurs to it.
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All of the fastest cars at the ring have professional factory drivers setting their times. Mero has more than held his own over the years. But to think he's faster alone than sending 2 or 3 corvette racing drivers to the ring and hot lapping a few cars like the other manufacturers are doing is not accurate.
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I mean, I don't much care but I found it
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Alex McDonald. I heard over two years ago that he was lapping faster than Mero at the Nordshliefe.
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Melting Slicks
Thats exactly what I was told at the Laguna Seca IMSA race that Alex McDonald was attending two years ago. Alex didn't tell me that but one of his guests that was with him did. I talked to Alex and he was very cordial and extremely informative. He was not tooting his own horn. His guest did. I'm sure he would have denied that comment if it wasn't accurate. I'll bet there are times when one test engineer is faster than the other on certain days. Could be as simple as that ! My comment is not taking anything away from Jim Mero as I think he was a huge cog in the success of the Corvettes progress. I've watched every video and read every tidbit of info that Jim has participated in and I have huge respect for him. I also had a few talks with test development engineer Matt Satchell during this years Motor Trends Best drivers car test and we discussed the test development engineers vs pro Team Corvette drivers setting lap times at certain tracks around world for marketing reasons. He was very humble and also very cordial. Ironically, about 3 or 4 years ago I talked to Tommy Milner of Team Corvette and I asked him if he could beat Jims time around the ring and he said absolutely. I guess he would have to say that though. Wouldn't want to admit it any other way. Regardless, I think they all respect each other !!! So no, I didn't hear wrong I just heard a comment you didn't want to hear.
Last edited by skank; 09-12-2018 at 04:13 PM.
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Thats exactly what I was told at the Laguna Seca IMSA race that Alex McDonald was attending two years ago. Alex didn't tell me that but one of his guests that was with him did. I talked to Alex and he was very cordial and extremely informative. He was not tooting his own horn. His guest did. I'm sure he would have denied that comment if it wasn't accurate. I'll bet there are times when one test engineer is faster than the other on certain days. Could be as simple as that ! My comment is not taking anything away from Jim Mero as I think he was a huge cog in the success of the Corvettes progress. I've watched every video and read every tidbit of info that Jim has participated in and I have huge respect for him. I also had a few talks with test development engineer Matt Satchell during this years Motor Trends Best drivers car test and we discussed the test development engineers vs pro Team Corvette drivers setting lap times at certain tracks around world for marketing reasons. He was very humble and also very cordial. Ironically, about 3 or 4 years ago I talked to Tommy Milner of Team Corvette and I asked him if he could beat Jims time around the ring and he said absolutely. I guess he would have to say that though. Wouldn't want to admit it any other way. Regardless, I think they all respect each other !!! So no, I didn't hear wrong I just heard a comment you didn't want to hear.
I profusely apologize for the way I stated my previous reply to you.
I should have said that whoever said Alex was faster at the Nordschleife was incorrect. Especially if it was communicated to you 2 years ago. I have it on good authority the first time Alex was there as a driver was in 2017.
Please accept my humble appology.
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skank (09-12-2018)
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Thats exactly what I was told at the Laguna Seca IMSA race that Alex McDonald was attending two years ago. Alex didn't tell me that but one of his guests that was with him did. I talked to Alex and he was very cordial and extremely informative. He was not tooting his own horn. His guest did. I'm sure he would have denied that comment if it wasn't accurate. I'll bet there are times when one test engineer is faster than the other on certain days. Could be as simple as that ! My comment is not taking anything away from Jim Mero as I think he was a huge cog in the success of the Corvettes progress. I've watched every video and read every tidbit of info that Jim has participated in and I have huge respect for him. I also had a few talks with test development engineer Matt Satchell during this years Motor Trends Best drivers car test and we discussed the test development engineers vs pro Team Corvette drivers setting lap times at certain tracks around world for marketing reasons. He was very humble and also very cordial. Ironically, about 3 or 4 years ago I talked to Tommy Milner of Team Corvette and I asked him if he could beat Jims time around the ring and he said absolutely. I guess he would have to say that though. Wouldn't want to admit it any other way. Regardless, I think they all respect each other !!! So no, I didn't hear wrong I just heard a comment you didn't want to hear.
Unless a race car driver is an engineer, he is clueless of how a new car is set up, especially a street car. It is far more complicated than a race car. Heck, I drove in my friend's wife's Toyota Avalon. I couldn't come close to tuning to that level of refinement. It's mind boggling that this is achieved mechanically. German engineers would not be able to do it, I must be German. Race car engineering,( get the online magazine) is brute force engineering compared to street cars. If you haven't been there and done that, you have no business commenting, a very big problem on this forum. Just try and go onto an SAE forum or the Engineer on line sometime.
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VetterFlyer (09-13-2018)