C8 Nurburgring laptime
09-13-2018, 01:13 PM
#21
Pro
He said, I stop the second timer. I look again. It’s not a lap record, it’s not even close. And it’s certainly not the first American supercar to go under seven minutes. That’s all I really need to know.
09-13-2018, 01:18 PM
#22
no american car has posted an under 7 second ring lap time, including the c8, as of this moment.
check the ring lap score if you want. the viper is still the closest at about 7:01.
check the ring lap score if you want. the viper is still the closest at about 7:01.
09-13-2018, 01:27 PM
#23
Somba master
I’ve read and reread the quote. At first, I was sure he meant the C8 got below 7 minutes. But, the more I read the subtle nuances, and the context, the more I think he’s saying it didn’t. His words” it wouldn’t be the first American car to get a sub7 minute lap time” actually mean that, had it gone sub7, it wouldn’t be the first. Or just that it didn’t go sub 7. And, further, he states that the real time would be so disappointing to Corvette fans, they would give him grief about it. And, the final thing is, he didn’t post the actual number. If it HAD gone sub7, he certainly would have no hesitation to post it.
Yeah, I’m disappointed he didn’t post it. But I know it’s way early in the testing program. So, really no biggie. Wish he’d just man up and post whatever it is anyway.
LOL!
Yeah, I’m disappointed he didn’t post it. But I know it’s way early in the testing program. So, really no biggie. Wish he’d just man up and post whatever it is anyway.
LOL!
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09-13-2018, 02:20 PM
#24
Unless it's pushing 700+ HP in base trim, the rear mounted mid engine platform ain't making up for THAT much difference in grip. If it comes in remotely close to a 7:25 on stock street tires, I think all should rejoice IMO.
09-13-2018, 03:37 PM
#25
Dale Lomas is the ring Guru. He started www.bridgetogantry.com and does not BS. I've been following him for years and he is upstanding and forthright. I absolutely believe in his reporting.
09-13-2018, 03:46 PM
#26
Burning Brakes
A 7:2x would be GREAT. The C7 Z06/Z07 with Cup 2 tires did a RUMORED 7:10. To be 5 seconds off of THAT pace would mean that a similarly equipped car with Cup 2 tires could be a sub 7:10s car, which to me would be a PIPE DREAM.
Unless it's pushing 700+ HP in base trim, the rear mounted mid engine platform ain't making up for THAT much difference in grip. If it comes in remotely close to a 7:25 on stock street tires, I think all should rejoice IMO.
Unless it's pushing 700+ HP in base trim, the rear mounted mid engine platform ain't making up for THAT much difference in grip. If it comes in remotely close to a 7:25 on stock street tires, I think all should rejoice IMO.
09-13-2018, 04:55 PM
#27
Race Director
His sentence and word choice is garbage, but I'm pretty certain he's saying that no American cars have broken 7:00 and this one won't be doing so, either, based on the well above 7:00 time he's seeing.
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09-13-2018, 05:26 PM
#28
Burning Brakes
^^^I agree. I read the dam article 3 times and am still unsure of exactly what he is trying to say. So i basically took from what i read that this car did not break the 7 minute mark and because of that he will not post the time in fear of being trolled or hurting covrvette fan's feelings.
Still not sure how he knew the car was moving at 185 mph??? Guess he had a radar gun....
Still not sure how he knew the car was moving at 185 mph??? Guess he had a radar gun....
09-13-2018, 05:29 PM
#29
It is a confusing statement, because if you believe there have already been American cars under 7:00 minutes, then the statement might imply that this car DID go under 7, but it simply wasn't the first. However, as others have said, I don't actually think there are any that have gone under 7:00, and this one (on that run) wouldn't be the first, implying that it was actually over 7:00. Of course the real question is how much over. And the other question is, does it really even matter? If the car feels great to drive, that's the most important factor.
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09-13-2018, 05:47 PM
#30
Racer
Anything under 7:30 is a win really, for a "base" model. That's good enough to match/beat the ZL1 (non-1LE) . . . and it probably did that if it did indeed hit 185. I don't recall exactly, but I want to say the "regular" ZL1 without the crazy aero hit 180.
The 488 is a phenomenal car, and the Sport Auto driver did a 7:21 in that, so I suspect it's between those 2 numbers.
The 488 is a phenomenal car, and the Sport Auto driver did a 7:21 in that, so I suspect it's between those 2 numbers.
09-13-2018, 06:24 PM
#31
Although I would LOVE for the C8 (base) to pull a sub-7 second lap, I just don't see it. That is incredibly quick. That is supercar territory and even cars like the 488 are doing it. I just don't buy it... assuming it is the full track. Now, the C8 Z06... I'd think that was definitely possible.
09-13-2018, 06:30 PM
#32
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...rburgring-lap/
not real specific but it turned in under 7 minutes.
not real specific but it turned in under 7 minutes.
well... since I'm all in it for the 1/4 and stop light (american style)... the ring means nothing really.... now lets boost it or spray it and see how it can walk a demon ... or roll race a hurican at 30 or even a dig....
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09-13-2018, 06:44 PM
#33
Safety Car
PC
09-13-2018, 06:46 PM
#34
I read the article again... it's kind of silly. If the ZR1 didn't break 6:57, who on earth would thing the base C8 would best the C7 ZR1. If he honestly thought so and is disappointed, he is on some potent drugs!! If, in fact, the base C8 breaks 7:00 by even a fraction of a second, it will be an accomplishment for the ages because the C8 Z06 and ZR1 will obliterate the 'Ring record laps. It would also represent the biggest improvement from one generation to the next ever in a Corvette... maybe any car. It makes no sense at all to me. The C8 simply cannot be THAT good in BASE form... especially not for under $100K. If the car comes in sub 7:20, I think that would be stellar (faster than a 488 Italia) and we should all be jumping up and down. If it came in under 7:00, I'll drop dead of a heart attack and never get to own one.
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09-13-2018, 06:49 PM
#35
I stop the second timer. I look again. It’s not a lap record, it’s not even close. And it’s certainly not the first American supercar to go under seven minutes. That’s all I really need to know. It’s all anybody needs to know.
In fact, the lap time is so far off a new lap record that if I were to write it down I’d probably incur a couple of half-hearted internet forum death-threats, a dozen or so flame-threads and at least a hundred insults.
In fact, the lap time is so far off a new lap record that if I were to write it down I’d probably incur a couple of half-hearted internet forum death-threats, a dozen or so flame-threads and at least a hundred insults.
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09-13-2018, 06:55 PM
#36
Race Director
It's a poorly written sentence...
And I doubt that the C8 is capable of 185MPH on the long straight. The C6 ZR1 touched 183 for a split second on the straight during the 7:19 run.
And I doubt that the C8 is capable of 185MPH on the long straight. The C6 ZR1 touched 183 for a split second on the straight during the 7:19 run.
09-13-2018, 07:41 PM
#37
Safety Car
Well, if that's true he's a poor journalist... that's not what he's saying here...
He clearly seems disappointed the car didn't break a record... as if he expected it to. He also suggests it did go under 7:00 like another American car, the ZR1. Just not enough to matter (i.e. breaking a record or getting close). It's a bizarre article if you ask me.
He clearly seems disappointed the car didn't break a record... as if he expected it to. He also suggests it did go under 7:00 like another American car, the ZR1. Just not enough to matter (i.e. breaking a record or getting close). It's a bizarre article if you ask me.
I stop the second timer. Stop watch on his phone. I look again. It’s not a lap record, it’s not even close. Not close who knows what means to him. And it’s certainly not, the first, American supercar to go under seven minutes. Given that no American supercar has gotten under 7 this not close effort doesnt either. That’s all I really need to know. It’s all anybody needs to know. I have a time and I'm not saying what it is cause I dont want to take heat online.
Either way, its poorly written but getting a bunch of attention. In that way maybe he has achieved his goal!
PC
09-13-2018, 08:11 PM
#38
Melting Slicks
He probably couldn’t tell the 4 different cars ,that we’re running at the same time, appart.
The cars were going flat out,but they wouldn’t want to reveal their times.
They just need times of different sections,plenty of tricks up their sleeves.
The cars were going flat out,but they wouldn’t want to reveal their times.
They just need times of different sections,plenty of tricks up their sleeves.
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09-13-2018, 10:00 PM
#39
Le Mans Master
Road and Track usually has well written articles. This is not one of them.
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09-13-2018, 10:28 PM
#40
Melting Slicks
He still wrote an article,I guess that’s his job.
I have sufficient proof from what I’ve seen,
The car looks great and appears very at ease (massive understatement...)at speed,in the turns and on the brakes.