Why New Mid-Engine Vette Is Trouble for Italy
09-14-2018, 12:48 PM
#41
Melting Slicks
Ridiculous comment, I love Corvettes's but I would never compare it to a Ferrari, just sit in one and you would see the difference !
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09-15-2018, 01:04 PM
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09-15-2018, 07:55 PM
#45
this is a kind to saying patek phillipe is quaking in their boots because the new gsock digital watch does at least as much if not more for .. say 500 to 1000 than a patek phillipe 100,000$ watch does.
corvette is a more or less mass produced american sportscar that the middle class can afford.
italian exotics are probably purchased more for their exclusivity than anything else. of course most are gorgeous but corvettes approach and exceed some of their performance metrics.
you pay for performance, you pay a hell of a lot more for exclusivity and often you dont a lot more performance along with that exclusivity.
corvette is a more or less mass produced american sportscar that the middle class can afford.
italian exotics are probably purchased more for their exclusivity than anything else. of course most are gorgeous but corvettes approach and exceed some of their performance metrics.
you pay for performance, you pay a hell of a lot more for exclusivity and often you dont a lot more performance along with that exclusivity.
09-15-2018, 09:10 PM
#46
this is a kind to saying patek phillipe is quaking in their boots because the new gsock digital watch does at least as much if not more for .. say 500 to 1000 than a patek phillipe 100,000$ watch does.
corvette is a more or less mass produced american sportscar that the middle class can afford.
italian exotics are probably purchased more for their exclusivity than anything else. of course most are gorgeous but corvettes approach and exceed some of their performance metrics.
you pay for performance, you pay a hell of a lot more for exclusivity and often you dont a lot more performance along with that exclusivity.
corvette is a more or less mass produced american sportscar that the middle class can afford.
italian exotics are probably purchased more for their exclusivity than anything else. of course most are gorgeous but corvettes approach and exceed some of their performance metrics.
you pay for performance, you pay a hell of a lot more for exclusivity and often you dont a lot more performance along with that exclusivity.
09-15-2018, 09:46 PM
#47
I had a C6 Z06 and then a C6 ZR1 (ZR1 for 10 years - sorry I sold it). I also own 2 Ferrari’s and a McLaren. On any objective measure the ZR1 is a better car than either Ferrari (better performance, less expensive, better for a long trip). The Ferraris offer a better visceral experience in my opinion that the Corvette can’t match (yes, for some ferrari is like a Chanel purse, all about brand, but not for me). Now the McLaren, that beats the ZR1 on everything, including driving experience and comfort, except price. FWIW.
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09-15-2018, 10:03 PM
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I highly doubt anyone in Italy(or Germany) is worried about the c8. Will they pay attention to the car, of course they will like they would with any new sports car released. That is how they improve on their own brands and that is how Chevy and the other American manufactures improve on their own brands. When I bought my Lambo last year I didn't cross shop it with a C7 ZO6 or think about putting a deposit on a ZR1, I looked a the Turbo S, 488, 650s and 570s. And I don't know if a single person who buys an exotic car cross shops them against a Corvette, when I bought my C7 earlier this year I looked at a Carerra and M4. For some reason people think that performance is the only thing exotic car buyers look at, and that is far from it. If that where the case everyone would drive a Porsche and no one would buy a Ferrari. That's not to say exotic car buyers don't like to have the performance but it's not something that is usually a deciding factor in the purchase.
Even if some version of the c8 ends up being faster than some of the exotics then Euro companies will just come out with something else, that's the way the cycle is, and always has been. Take Lambo for example, most people don't realize how easy it would be for them to blow away the competition in speed, their cars are all still naturally aspirated. A small turbo or supercharger setup would make them insanely fast. Ferrari just decided to go with turbo's with the 488, the 812 is naturally aspirated, The GT3, still naturally aspirated. So if any of them wanted to go faster, they could easily solve that problem. People buy exotics for the driving experience. Some probably for the "look at me" factor too but overall it's about the experience.
Even if some version of the c8 ends up being faster than some of the exotics then Euro companies will just come out with something else, that's the way the cycle is, and always has been. Take Lambo for example, most people don't realize how easy it would be for them to blow away the competition in speed, their cars are all still naturally aspirated. A small turbo or supercharger setup would make them insanely fast. Ferrari just decided to go with turbo's with the 488, the 812 is naturally aspirated, The GT3, still naturally aspirated. So if any of them wanted to go faster, they could easily solve that problem. People buy exotics for the driving experience. Some probably for the "look at me" factor too but overall it's about the experience.
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09-15-2018, 10:14 PM
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09-15-2018, 10:53 PM
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I chuckled as we watched the video of the camouflaged c8 at the ring and porsche had its new 992 911 for all to see...
its not the italians but rather the germans who have the most to lose...
the italians are so ridiculously priced...its about how much the people spend tjat matters most...not the car itself..
the porsche 911 is the car with the kost challenge.
the germans being a proud nation put the unvieled 992 right on the track with the c8 to show its wares to the public in its ful glory.
i prefer corvettes yet i applaud the porsche brand bravado in this instance especially..
got to love the competition..
ferrari owners will buy the c8 as a daily..a d as a track car
its not the italians but rather the germans who have the most to lose...
the italians are so ridiculously priced...its about how much the people spend tjat matters most...not the car itself..
the porsche 911 is the car with the kost challenge.
the germans being a proud nation put the unvieled 992 right on the track with the c8 to show its wares to the public in its ful glory.
i prefer corvettes yet i applaud the porsche brand bravado in this instance especially..
got to love the competition..
ferrari owners will buy the c8 as a daily..a d as a track car
09-15-2018, 10:53 PM
#51
Soooooo much exaggeration going on here it's funny! I mean saying a Corvette is a Gshock watch LMAO!! Or it's just a Chevy! It's basically a GM car that's sold under the Chevrolet name. And so what if it's just a Chevy!! Some still say a Porsche is just VW or the NSX is just an Acura or the GT is just a Ford. And didn't Lamborghini start out as a tractor company?? It's like a Bugatti owner looking down on a Ferrari owner....does that make the Ferrari less special or desirable? Anyways, people who can own true exotics usually buy non exotics like Porsche's and Corvette's as well if they are a fan of the car. Just look at how many on this Forum own both.
I love exotics too but I don't need to **** on the Corvette and put it down just to bring up the exotics!
Since in life so much of reality is really perception to most of the impressionable society, maybe GM should build a very limited number of it and sell them for $300K and then all the sudden the same people will be riding its d*ck (metaphorically).
I love exotics too but I don't need to **** on the Corvette and put it down just to bring up the exotics!
Since in life so much of reality is really perception to most of the impressionable society, maybe GM should build a very limited number of it and sell them for $300K and then all the sudden the same people will be riding its d*ck (metaphorically).
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09-15-2018, 11:19 PM
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My girls say im high maintaince.....my sports cars dont have to be.(kidding)
buy what you like.
buy what you like.
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09-17-2018, 12:00 PM
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So many ignorant remarks or just haters! Relax, the car is not out yet! We don't even know what it will costs! And so what if the car may have some issues in its first couple of years! The ones who want one will get one a soon as they're able to like Pietro7 said.
And why are some are you on here if all you want to do is **** on the Corvette?? Asking for improvements is normal but always sh!tting on the car is not! Don't you have other things to do in life??? Also, just because a Corvette doesn't costs $300K doesn't mean it's not very, very desirable and in the dreams of probably just as many people as a Ferrari, Lambo, etc. When I was a kid I had my walls covered with Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche (don't like them anymore) AND CORVETTE'S posters. I dreamt about owning one just as much as I dreamt of owning a Ferrari and didn't think even as a kid that hey the Corvette is not as expensive so I shouldn't desire it as much! Chill with the constant Corvette bashing!!
And why are some are you on here if all you want to do is **** on the Corvette?? Asking for improvements is normal but always sh!tting on the car is not! Don't you have other things to do in life??? Also, just because a Corvette doesn't costs $300K doesn't mean it's not very, very desirable and in the dreams of probably just as many people as a Ferrari, Lambo, etc. When I was a kid I had my walls covered with Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche (don't like them anymore) AND CORVETTE'S posters. I dreamt about owning one just as much as I dreamt of owning a Ferrari and didn't think even as a kid that hey the Corvette is not as expensive so I shouldn't desire it as much! Chill with the constant Corvette bashing!!
Well said. This site is full of snobbish GM bashers. Nothing make ya look baller like talking **** about GM.
They want you to believe that they drive Porsches and Land Rovers
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09-17-2018, 12:43 PM
#54
Melting Slicks
Is Ferrari scared of GM? No. Ferrari knows for a fact that they don't even operate in the same sphere as GM. They would kill for those truck/ SUV profits and parts/ service that they will never have. One is a boutique brand, the other is a top 3 on the planet in regards to every aspect that an automotive business judges themselves by.
09-17-2018, 02:13 PM
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09-17-2018, 02:19 PM
#56
Soooooo much exaggeration going on here it's funny! I mean saying a Corvette is a Gshock watch LMAO!! Or it's just a Chevy! It's basically a GM car that's sold under the Chevrolet name. And so what if it's just a Chevy!! Some still say a Porsche is just VW or the NSX is just an Acura or the GT is just a Ford. And didn't Lamborghini start out as a tractor company?? It's like a Bugatti owner looking down on a Ferrari owner....does that make the Ferrari less special or desirable? Anyways, people who can own true exotics usually buy non exotics like Porsche's and Corvette's as well if they are a fan of the car. Just look at how many on this Forum own both.
I love exotics too but I don't need to **** on the Corvette and put it down just to bring up the exotics!
Since in life so much of reality is really perception to most of the impressionable society, maybe GM should build a very limited number of it and sell them for $300K and then all the sudden the same people will be riding its d*ck (metaphorically).
I love exotics too but I don't need to **** on the Corvette and put it down just to bring up the exotics!
Since in life so much of reality is really perception to most of the impressionable society, maybe GM should build a very limited number of it and sell them for $300K and then all the sudden the same people will be riding its d*ck (metaphorically).
Some people just like to watch the world burn...
09-17-2018, 02:47 PM
#57
As the saying goes, "Exotic cars are like strippers. Great to look at, but the maintenance costs ..."
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09-17-2018, 08:16 PM
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Wanna bet the exotics up their game...watch as they have already begun to up their highest performance models...
the corvette has always been a thorn in their sides...
to think otherwise is naive.
the corvette has always been a thorn in their sides...
to think otherwise is naive.
Last edited by JerriVette; 09-17-2018 at 08:17 PM.