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Another Reason To Be Leary of the C8 And Why The Italians Could Care Less About the 8

Old 09-18-2018, 09:53 AM
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Its stuff like this that makes me think GM should get out of the high end market. They (GM) just simply cant hack it.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...story-out.html

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Old 09-18-2018, 10:11 AM
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Well a couple years ago 458 Italias and Porsche 991 GT3's were blowing up left and right.
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If you want to, you can talk yourself out of any high end auto from any manufacturer based on similar issues.
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Old 09-18-2018, 11:15 AM
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There are always two sides to every story..... I cannot believe that GM would not 'make things right'. I wonder why it doesn't qualify for the 'buy back'???
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A few cars with poor quality control is not an indication that all cars will have poor quality control. What percentage of these ZR1's are we talking about? less than 5%?
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This guy's story is one anecdote; I haven't seen or heard of a theme of multiple ZR1s leaving the factory like this. That's when you start to become concerned.

I'd pay attention to the data and statistics versus one guy's experience and his own version of a story.

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Old 09-18-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ArmchairArchitect View Post
This guy's story is one anecdote; I haven't seen or heard of a theme of multiple ZR1s leaving the factory like this. That's when you start to become concerned.

I'd pay attention to the data and statistics versus one guy's experience and his own version of a story.
So wait...you're telling me you let objective facts and research guide your high dollar purchasing decisions? You don't base it one guy's internet rant?
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:24 PM
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I think the LS7 valve issue is a good indication of how much Chevy cares about their customers. They will fix it under warranty; after that, you are on your own. Even though many LS7 cars have low miles and they will not fail until after the warranty (with low miles).
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Originally Posted by Tonylmiller View Post
I think the LS7 valve issue is a good indication of how much Chevy cares about their customers. They will fix it under warranty; after that, you are on your own. Even though many LS7 cars have low miles and they will not fail until after the warranty (with low miles).
Same could be said for Porsche's IMS bearing issue which leads to complete engine failure...it affected an entire recent generation of 911s (and Boxsters). There's even a Wikipedia article dedicated to it, how sad:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsch..._Bearing_issue

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Your negative posting and obvious hate of the Me is getting old.
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Originally Posted by tbasco 6 View Post
Your negative posting and obvious hate of the Me is getting old.
As well as another thread from people who simply cannot accept change because it will immediately antiquate their current vehicle thus robbing them of the affirmation they need to justify its purchase.
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Originally Posted by C5Driver View Post
Its stuff like this that makes me think GM should get out of the high end market. They (GM) just simply cant hack it.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...story-out.html
Another ridiculous scare-mongering post. Every car manufacturer -- every one -- has stories like this.

​​​​​​​With Corvette fans like this, who need enemies?
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:25 PM
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Let the future buyer beware I say. For $145,000.00 I would expect much better and wouldn't cut GM any slack on this car.

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Originally Posted by tooold2race View Post
There are always two sides to every story..... I cannot believe that GM would not 'make things right'. I wonder why it doesn't qualify for the 'buy back'???
Remember, it's not GM making it right, it's the dealer. The dealer needs authorization from GM for warranty work. If either of those two parties fail, the car does not get fixed.

This is a prime example of why it is important to check the car over and drive the car before buying. Get a refundable deposit, and do not take possession of the car until it is inspected. Just because it is new, and has a warranty, doesn't mean there isn't something wrong with ti. Some cars are damaged in transit. Some cars get out of the plant with issues. Sometimes you can find a problem within a minute of driving the car, such as shaking or noises. Vibration problems can be extremely difficult to fix. Save yourself months of headaches.

If you are buying out of state, check to see if the Lemon Laws will apply to your purchase. Sometimes they don't.

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Originally Posted by C5Driver View Post
Let the future buyer beware I say. For $145,000.00 I would expect much better and wouldn't cut GM any slack on this car.
So that's one car. What about the other ~3000 ZR1 owners? Or the Z06 owners with 70-100k cars? Or people with 70-100k Escalades and CTS-Vs?

If this was a chronic problem, you might have a point. But there's zero data to support that.
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:28 PM
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Every manufacturer builds the occasional turd. Such is life. The guy with the ZR1 should have put his states lemon law into action about 3 months ago. Going by Oklahoma law, his case qualifies for it. Trying to get a manufacturer to just do a buy back out of kindness is a waste of time.
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Originally Posted by C5Driver View Post
Its stuff like this that makes me think GM should get out of the high end market. They (GM) just simply cant hack it.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...story-out.html
--Are worried about quality control? That's a joke, right?

Fix It Again, Tony.
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Originally Posted by Michael A View Post
Remember, it's not GM making it right, it's the dealer. The dealer needs authorization from GM for warranty work. If either of those two parties fail, the car does not get fixed.

This is a prime example of why it is important to check the car over and drive the car before buying. Get a refundable deposit, and do not take possession of the car until it is inspected. Just because it is new, and has a warranty, doesn't mean there isn't something wrong with ti. Some cars are damaged in transit. Some cars get out of the plant with issues. Sometimes you can find a problem within a minute of driving the car, such as shaking or noises. Vibration problems can be extremely difficult to fix. Save yourself months of headaches.

If you are buying out of state, check to see if the Lemon Laws will apply to your purchase. Sometimes they don't.
Agree, especially when buying a car that cost 140k+. You keep the emotions out of the purchase bring your OCD friend with you and walk the car and test drive it before you write the check. (Always) You can still get burned no matter what manufacturer we are talking about, but taking extra steps helps reduce your risk. I had an issue with a BMW M5 118k car it was resolved through BMW.

Look at all the issues with Tesla, my friends model 3 panels look like a 5th grader put them together with a blindfold on, car is nice other than cosmetic issues. They are pushing to many cars through the line instead of slowing the process and putting a Q&C process in place. Good news they are beating the hell out of the new ME on the test track, that helps us in the long run. Taking their time getting it to market is a good thing.
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This story has more BS in it than a Maxine Waters press release.

*if* even 1% of his cockamamie story is true, why is he wasting time whining on this forum?

Sell the damn car & move on.

And you guys keep on pumping quarters into his BS dispenser like there's no tomorrow... SMH.

Go watch some track videos from Sean or Questar.

Much more entertaining,

BTW - it's 'leery', not 'leary', as in Denis.

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Originally Posted by TSanders View Post
Well a couple years ago 458 Italias and Porsche 991 GT3's were blowing up left and right.
Very few, if any valid examples of the GT3 "blowing up" but there were some concerns. And Porsche stepped up to the plate, https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...gine-warranty/ .
Chevy wouldn't even fully acknowledge the HUGE issues with the LS7 valve/heads issue. And those issues continued to occur after the time GM said the issue was corrected.
Sorry but personally I'd rather have the Porsche kind of response.
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