At least the posters on this thread seem to understand that we are actually talking about 3 different types of trans. A manual, an automatic and a DCT. Some guys on the forum don’t seem to understand that a DCT is NOT the same as an automatic. There is no torque converter and there is a clutch, two of them actually, they’re just activated electronically instead by the pedal. A DCT can shift itself similar to an automatic but an auto trans really doesn’t emulate a DCT very well. A DCT can also be shifted either by paddles or with the stick shift on the console. I have an M7 GS (and love it) but a DCT in my M4 and love it also. I use the stick to drive it just like a manual (no clutch pedal of course) and it snaps off shifts way faster than I can do in my GS. Both are fun. Yes I have been driving manuals since I was 14, I’m 62 now, so 48 years. Sorry to you guys who know all this stuff already. Just pointing out that if you’ve driven an automatic you haven’t driven a dual clutch. They operate differently and FEEL different.

Intersting article below about the ZF automatic:

https://apple.news/AXCjuUjYJMguAnZEb50pNHQ

Until you realized you set a personal best while being bored and just not even trying. Again, were you actually PUSHING the car around a track or did you let off at 59 in the passing lane because your exit was coming up? Coffee is important, but it sounds like your opinion was chiseled in before you even sat in that Boxster...

That may be the best simplest def of a DCT. Good post.
Still want another pedal. Perhaps eventually I will get it.

Its very obvious a lot of you dont have enough experience with manual transmission and turbo charged engines. Because if you did, you would immediately point out all of this discussion is irrelevant. The 22% of corvette owners would not buy a manual turbo charged car. It just does not feel natural and has inherent issues with how engine makes torque. I drove many M4s that is stick as well as 911s, I m a manual guy and there is no way I would own those cars in manual form. A DCT hides inherent turbocharging issues because of how you can fine tune TCU and extremely handle the torque drops with clutch slippage angles etc. Manual transmission just feels very wrong in turbo charged engines.

Its because of this GM will not offer one. It just wont sell even half of that 22% number.

This frame of mind is the polar opposite of the vast majority of drivers. We’d much rather have a smooth, simple auto for around town and traffic driving, and a proper manual in our toys—which is why manuals are dying, sadly.

The scary part is that means the other 78% will eventually experience the A8 shudder. Just kidding, maybe.

Just because they have it and people buy them doesnt mean the experience is good. Companies also put torque converters in place of dual clutch in sports cars and people buy those cars too but guess what, experience is **** (i.e A8, what a horrendous transmission to be in a car like ZR1).

The problem 99% of the time is boost trop when changing gears. Either downshifting or upshifting. There is no way to cheat the law of physics. Even with pre tensioned turbos, there is still noticeable boost drop and that translates into turbo lag. When you get back on the gas, massive torque hits a second after you are on the pedal or while downshifting the boost dies and so does the the torque and you feel like you hit a wall.

If those who buy these cars never really drove a proper N/A manual, they ll never know what they are missing. Better yet if they dont know how to drive a manual transmission, its still problem.