Will Mid Engine Corvette be the only Corvette ??
10-06-2018, 06:58 PM
#221
I'll agree that the C8 will mid-engine only. A C8 front engine would have to be significantly different enough from the C7 (similar to the differences between the C5 and C6), for there to be a test car with camouflage. I also agree that the base price of the C8 will likely only be a few thousand higher than the base C7. It will be interesting to see what GM will do with the Z06 and ZR1 versions; is there a Zora halo car in the mix too?
10-06-2018, 07:56 PM
#222
The name Chevrolet does not appear anywhere on the Corvette. In fact, the biggest problem for Corvette is that it is sold and serviced at Chevy dealers. Nobody goes to a VW dealer to buy a Porsche or get it serviced even though VW owns Porsche.
Corvette is GM's only premium name and expanding the lineup would make sense, just as it has for Porsche, Ferrari, etc.
Corvette is GM's only premium name and expanding the lineup would make sense, just as it has for Porsche, Ferrari, etc.
10-09-2018, 04:36 PM
#223
If they can price the entry level RME Vette in the same ballpark as the Stingray, there's no need for the FME. No new (to Corvette) buyer would go with FME, and most of the die hard Vette guys already bought their preferred C7. It would be tough to upgrade from one C7 to another with the RME on the streets. Also, if someone knows how to keep sports car prices down, it's GM.
10-09-2018, 05:40 PM
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If they can price the entry level RME Vette in the same ballpark as the Stingray, there's no need for the FME. No new (to Corvette) buyer would go with FME, and most of the die hard Vette guys already bought their preferred C7. It would be tough to upgrade from one C7 to another with the RME on the streets. Also, if someone knows how to keep sports car prices down, it's GM.
The 911 still outsells the Cayman 2 and sometimes 3 to 1 yearly in spite of being much more expensive on average. A mid engine car is not going to sell nearly 10k units a year like the FME has. Period.
If GM nixes the FME completely it could be one of the worst decisions in company history..
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10-09-2018, 09:31 PM
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I think the C8 ME will be a big hit.
Whether or not GM makes only ME cars or not, one thing some say, is If it's priced close to what the FE cars are at now, that would be good.
But, looking at past history, when a New generation comes out, aside from the few greedy Dealers, in the beginning prices have always started low.
C7 is a good example when looking back at pricing for the car itself and Options like Z51 etc.
Every year after that, everything from the car itself to the Options go up.
The GS is another example at 10K more without extra Options than the Base car, yes, big bang for the money with what you get.
Add options and you're getting into Z06 territory.
The ME will definitely be more than what a base C7 is now, even if it is "only" 5K more
, but that's just the beginning.
What happens when adding options, and as in the past, prices go up every following year, usually 1,500 for the car itself.
An 80K C7 in today's market will be in 90K territory for the ME and so it goes.
If GM goes with the ME only, when does it end and when do higher and higher pricing start to turn away more buyers.
Pure conjectory on my part but, if history is any indication, well then
Whether or not GM makes only ME cars or not, one thing some say, is If it's priced close to what the FE cars are at now, that would be good.
But, looking at past history, when a New generation comes out, aside from the few greedy Dealers, in the beginning prices have always started low.
C7 is a good example when looking back at pricing for the car itself and Options like Z51 etc.
Every year after that, everything from the car itself to the Options go up.
The GS is another example at 10K more without extra Options than the Base car, yes, big bang for the money with what you get.
Add options and you're getting into Z06 territory.
The ME will definitely be more than what a base C7 is now, even if it is "only" 5K more
, but that's just the beginning.What happens when adding options, and as in the past, prices go up every following year, usually 1,500 for the car itself.
An 80K C7 in today's market will be in 90K territory for the ME and so it goes.
If GM goes with the ME only, when does it end and when do higher and higher pricing start to turn away more buyers.
Pure conjectory on my part but, if history is any indication, well then
10-10-2018, 09:16 AM
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this talk about two cars... is mainly due to the fear of a high priced ME. If somehow GM can make a ME for a base price of $60k... then I believe we'll see only a mid engined C8.
I know it's been said that it doesn't cost anymore to build a ME over a FE. If this were the case though, then why haven't the car mfgrs built -what we've all wanted- in the past decade or two? If this were possible... we'd all be owning them.
When you include straight line acceleration, cornering, and interior comfort amenities... there's no ME out there anywhere near the $60k base C7 price.
My employer owns two Lotus; and they are cool little cars- but barren inside. No radio, no sound absorption, no cruise control; no AC, very uncomfortable to drive/ride for more than about 30 miles. With the base Corvette, you could go to a dragstrip in NewYork and practically win every race against other 100% stock street cars.... then drive from there to LA in total plush comfort.
Do I need such comfort; probably not. But something has to give... if a ME Corvette (that equals the C7 performance) is produced at the starting price of $60k.
We're all guessing here; giving our best outlooks and ideas. Only a few have spoken in absolutes.
I know it's been said that it doesn't cost anymore to build a ME over a FE. If this were the case though, then why haven't the car mfgrs built -what we've all wanted- in the past decade or two? If this were possible... we'd all be owning them.
When you include straight line acceleration, cornering, and interior comfort amenities... there's no ME out there anywhere near the $60k base C7 price.
My employer owns two Lotus; and they are cool little cars- but barren inside. No radio, no sound absorption, no cruise control; no AC, very uncomfortable to drive/ride for more than about 30 miles. With the base Corvette, you could go to a dragstrip in NewYork and practically win every race against other 100% stock street cars.... then drive from there to LA in total plush comfort.
Do I need such comfort; probably not. But something has to give... if a ME Corvette (that equals the C7 performance) is produced at the starting price of $60k.
We're all guessing here; giving our best outlooks and ideas. Only a few have spoken in absolutes.
10-10-2018, 10:13 AM
#227
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That is purely YOUR opinion and nothing else. Not that many people want a faux exotic. Maintenance costs, diy difficulty and practicality are all reasons people would stay with FME.
The 911 still outsells the Cayman 2 and sometimes 3 to 1 yearly in spite of being much more expensive on average. A mid engine car is not going to sell nearly 10k units a year like the FME has. Period.
If GM nixes the FME completely it could be one of the worst decisions in company history..
The 911 still outsells the Cayman 2 and sometimes 3 to 1 yearly in spite of being much more expensive on average. A mid engine car is not going to sell nearly 10k units a year like the FME has. Period.
If GM nixes the FME completely it could be one of the worst decisions in company history..
You seem to have a real issue with a ME Corvette even though you have not had a chance to see one let alone drive one. I have no idea exactly how many units of the new car GM will be able to sell. IF the car is priced anywhere near the current C7 pricing brackets I believe it will easily sell in volume. Most importantly in order to move the new car has to attract not only repeat customers but new customers as well. This design has a very good chance of doing that. The worst decision GM will make in company history? I don't think so but time will tell....