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Old 10-09-2018, 10:25 PM
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Default C8 Pricing Not Likely To Be Announced Until Almost May 2019

I was looking at the announcement date for the C7 pricing, and it was not announced until the last week in April 2013, even though the car debuted at the Detroit Auto Show the prior January. If history is any indicator, it's going to be a long wait.
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If you are talking about the Stingray official price announcement, you are correct that it was in the April 26, 2013 GM press release. However, during 1.13.13 reveal, Tadge Juechter said, "if you could afford a regular C6, you can afford a StingRay.”

And hence why I expect that we will again hear a similar phrase during the reveal of the 2020 ME Corvette.

My expectation is during the ME’s official reveal, Tadge will instead say, “If you can afford a Grand Sport, you can afford an entry 2020 C8 mid engine.”

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Originally Posted by elegant
If you are talking about the Stingray official price announcement, you are correct that it was in the April 26, 2013 GM press release. However, during 1.13.13 reveal, Tadge Juechter said, "if you could afford a regular C6, you can afford a StingRay.”

And hence why I expect that we will again hear a similar phrase during the reveal of the 2020 ME Corvette.

My expectation is during the ME’s official reveal, Tadge will instead say, “If you can afford a Grand Sport, you can afford an entry 2020 C8 mid engine.”
Agreed.
A whole lot of folks around here are going to be eating crow.
Crow-eaters, please bookmark this post so I can say I told ya so in the future.
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The entry level and GS model ( if it happens) will be approx 5-7K above the current pricing. My guess.
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Originally Posted by sunsalem
Agreed.
A whole lot of folks around here are going to be eating crow.
Crow-eaters, please bookmark this post so I can say I told ya so in the future.


That is too funny!
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Originally Posted by elegant
My expectation is during the ME’s official reveal, Tadge will instead say, “If you can afford a Grand Sport, you can afford an entry 2020 C8 mid engine.”
That would put the entry level car at $68,315 - which is what a GS, 1LT, A8, coupe starts at. Affordable to many, but far above what a current 2019 Base 1LT, M7 zero option Coupe sells for after discounts, which is just under $50k.
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Counting pricing discounts in the last year of a generation is not an apples-to-apples comparison to MSRP for the first year of a new gen.
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"If you could afford a C7 Stingray, you'll be able to afford the regular C8 Manta Ray."
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Originally Posted by Zaro Tundov
"If you could afford a C7 Stingray, you'll be able to afford the regular C8 Manta Ray."
Except they just trademarked Zora around the world.
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Yes, but what was the base price of a no-option, 2014 C7? Wasn't it around $52K? That's the number to be used in a comparo of the starting price of a C8, or ME or whatever it's called. Or, you can use the base price for a '19 Stingray which is about $55.5K?

Plus, yes, pricing normally doesn't come out until, sometimes, AFTER the orders can be placed in late May, so April is far more likely than January, if that's the debut date.

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Except they just trademarked Zora around the world.
They filed to trademark "Manta Ray" in 2015.

That seems to fit when the C8 design would have been created. It also fits with a successor to "Stingray."

This is pretty late in the game to trademark "Zora," but maybe they ran the focus groups and found it preferred to "Manta Ray?" I dig it more for sure!



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Originally Posted by AORoads
Yes, but what was the base price of a no-option, 2014 C7? Wasn't it around $52K? That's the number to be used in a comparo of the starting price of a C8, or ME or whatever it's called. Or, you can use the base price for a '19 Stingray which is about $55.5K?

Plus, yes, pricing normally doesn't come out until, sometimes, AFTER the orders can be placed in late May, so April is far more likely than January, if that's the debut date.
If it starts at GS pricing, let's hope they have a substantial unit profit built in, because they will most likely cut off a large portion of their target market. Not at first, probably, but within 6 months or so after the "price is no object" must-haves are satisfied. The economic laws of supply and demand still work, I believe...
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Originally Posted by Atomic Fred
If it starts at GS pricing, let's hope they have a substantial unit profit built in, because they will most likely cut off a large portion of their target market. Not at first, probably, but within 6 months or so after the "price is no object" must-haves are satisfied. The economic laws of supply and demand still work, I believe...
That could be quite accurate, IF.... I'm betting the pricing will not be a shoot-thyself in the foot.
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Yeah, a base $70k C8 means just a couple options and you wind up over $75k and up. It will be interesting for sure. If they plan to use the Camaro to fill the 45-65k range then they better improve the looks, visibility and build quality. Camaro sales continue to tank and the recent refresh of the front fascia is frightening. It will be interesting for sure.
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GM doesn't really have a problem with the build quality on the Camaro, it's at least the best out of Ford and Dodge, the problem as you mentioned is visibility. Like the Corvette, they need to COMPLETELY redesign for next 7th gen and move away from that 1st gen look. I'd be happy if they make a usable 4 seater with similar sleek and low lines like the 4th gen. No need to turn the Camaro into the next ugly-*** Challenger. Some people will be hurt, but they will attract a lot more buyers. Look at what Ford is doing with the Mustang, they sell a **** ton of them to non-car people, women and insurance companies. 5th gen Camaro used to crush Mustang sales, but Ford realized what they were doing wrong. - Coming from a 2018 Camaro owner.
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Yes Elegant.....None of us know ( or those who do are quite quiet LOL)
But I feel that the C8 will come in around where the GS is now.
Here is to hoping.
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Pricing has been out for a while. 99.9994354% of current Corvette owners or potential owners have been out priced by GM.

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Originally Posted by kromberg
Pricing has been out for a while. 99.9994354% of current Corvette owners or potential owners have been out priced by GM.
So, will you eat a straw hat if the above sentence if shown to be wrong?

At 99.994354% priced out, GM will only sell between 2 and 10 C8s in the first year.
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For the C5, production numbers where consistent across all the years as it was priced for the right market and audience. C6 production numbers fell on its face after the first two years as GM bumped the cost from the LS2 to LS3 base. For the C7, production numbers where half initial ones after the second year. GM has out priced the market that is interested in buy a Corvette. For the estimated cost of a C8 I highly doubt GM will sell even 15K the second year.
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Originally Posted by kromberg
For the C5, production numbers where consistent across all the years as it was priced for the right market and audience. C6 production numbers fell on its face after the first two years as GM bumped the cost from the LS2 to LS3 base. For the C7, production numbers where half initial ones after the second year. GM has out priced the market that is interested in buy a Corvette. For the estimated cost of a C8 I highly doubt GM will sell even 15K the second year.
As you point out - pricing is a BIG deal for Corvette sales. They addressed the C7 ZR1 market with 2000 cars, priced from $120K to $150K. They addressed the Z06 market place with about 8000 cars in 2015, priced at $80K to $100K. They addressed the first year C7 market with 40000 cars, priced at $52K to $65K. There are three data points and roughly define, the Corvette market price elasticity curve. If they want to sell 33,000 a year for 2-3 years, the HAVE TO price the entry model less than $65K. Anything more will result in layoffs in Bowling Green. The upper middle class that buys most of these cars is seeing, at most, a 2% increase in real income each year. It's just that simple.
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