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I have to say, Prof Shaka, I find your grading and crease interpretation somewhat lacking. I present my midterm and grade myself an 8.5 out of 10. If I correct for your pedantically correct note that the center is more rounded (which it is) I get a 9 out of 10. I have to stop wasting my time proving you (mostly) wrong and get back to modeling. I do appreciate your input, Perhaps in the future, you could tone down or jettison your tendancy to rant and stick to constructive proportional and style suggestions.
Question Chaz: why did you eliminate the rear aero that is on the camo car in your render of the non camo car?
He still persists in defending his inaccurate render. Why the flattened rear end? His animated work illustrates what I was talking about. He admits that it is wrong yet gives himself a high grade. His ego won't permit him to come straight. I can go to an auto art forum to see this type of work. Most people are fooled by pretty pictures but a few of us here wish to reveal the actual design. I praised him for this work below but he has regressed. I took the liberty to add the round lights.
Frankly, I give him quite high marks for turning a camo ridden "who knows what" into a pleasant and, apparently, high resemblance, image of the real deal. I guess you could say a "sow's ear into a silk purse." Try to not be too hard on him!
I also think Chazcron is doing a incredible job in his rendering skills! I've always thought that the wing on the camo car was just a plant-on to just throw us off. The plant-on wing cheapens the look of the car where a integrated active spoiler is way more sophisticated. There clearly shows a recess at the top edge of the rear fascia where a integrated active wing would slot into position. Also the original photo of the red rear fascia in the BG factory that was photographed had the rear vents wrapping around the side. The camo guys could easily 3D print a insert and wrap the side to appear that the vent is not on the side. I'll bet that the rear/side vent is the real deal.
True, but guess what, with the exception of the very large-body-sized V12 Lambo’s, ME’s do not have more than one size wider tires — with two exceptions. In fact the average Euro exotic has the same 245’s/305’s that the first year ME is going to — many using narrower tires. I compiled a list of each Euro exotic’s tires that I posted here on this forum and also elsewhere months ago showing this. In fact many Euro exotics have as small as 225 and 235 fronts, and only 285 or 295 rears.
Update: Found my earlier tire size comparison, and for ease, placing it here.
NOTE:Every 2019 Corvette, regardless of “entry” or ZR1, runs 19” F/20” R wheel.
The tire size for the entry Corvette ME is 245/35/19F and 305/30/20R.
Tire Size /Wheel Diameter for Common ME’s/RE’s (F/R)
Audi R8: 235/35/R19; 295/30/R19
Audi R8/V10: 245/35/R19; 295/30/R19 [Opt. R = 305/30R20]
Ferrari 488 GTB: 245/35R20; 305R30/R20
Ferrari Pista: 245/35R20; 305/30R20
Ford GT: 245/35/R20; 325/30/R20
Lambo Huracan: 245/30/R20; 305/30/R20
McLaren 570: 225/35/R19; 285/35/R20
McLaren 650: 235/35/R19; 305/30/R19
McLaren 720: 245/35/R19; 305/30/R20
Porsche GT2: 265/35/20;325/30/R21
Porsche GT3: 245/35/R20; 305/30/R20
Porsche 911S: 245/35/R20; 305/30/R20
The last time I posted this, a couple who responded noted that running one size larger tire, if planned for up front, does not necessarily require bigger bodywork.
Second, the insider rumor I heard, completely unsubstantiated, is that when the Z06 and larger ME versions come out, while the rear scoop will be 5/8” wider, the rest of the rear fender will not change, and that the front fender will identical to the entry Corvette ME.
Same color and lighting setup. Slow first day back at work. Light touchup, fake panel lines. Today I hope to learn UV mapping to bump map the panel lines.
hey Shaka since you know everything there is to know about this car and apparently every mechanical machine ever created since the dawn of time. Why don’t you put your skills where your mouth is and do a render? I’m sure with how intelligent you are and how you are a corvette owner you can surely afford a computer program that can render things instead of using yours to be a *****? I mean you have a comment for every damn render/drawing on the forum but yet all you talk about is dumb **** like “co Effecient drag” or “maximum downforce stabilization” or “Optimus prime fortification tubular lift ports” instead of talking **** on people and their hard work trying to make something we are all excited for, take your comments and shove them up your ***. Because quite frankly you and your buddy iron v should be on a VTEC forum trolling Honda guys instead with your bullshit. Now was that comment accurate enough for you or am I batting zero still?
Same color and lighting setup. Slow first day back at work. Light touchup, fake panel lines. Today I hope to learn UV mapping to bump map the panel lines.
Great job Chazcron. Yes, this thing is looking like a $265k car, not a $65k car
True, but guess what, with the exception of the very large-body-sized V12 Lambo’s, ME’s do not have more than one size wider tires — with two exceptions. In fact the average Euro exotic has the same 245’s/305’s that the first year ME is going to — many using narrower tires. I compiled a list of each Euro exotic’s tires that I posted here on this forum and also elsewhere months ago showing this. In fact many Euro exotics have as small as 225 and 235 fronts, and only 285 or 295 rears.
It is my understanding that most manufacturers will not "over tire" their cars to the extent that GM will do. Possibly for liability reasons.
Some GM fitments are too wide for safe everyday use on the street. Definitely OK for hot, dry weather, but questionable in winter or in the rain. Hence the use of special weather modes.
One of the primary reasons Corvette has to "over-tire" the higher performing models is the fact that a high-powered RWD FE design will always be traction limited. The ME shouldn't need as much tire.
01-01-2019, 02:19 AM
