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Here is the orthographic projection I just made for my attempt to learn the 3-D app called Blender. I thought the community might like to see behind the curtain. Most of the yellow lines are panel lines, the black ones are the wireframes used to sculpt the model. When the actual Corvette is revealed, all the subtleties I missed will push this car to the next level. It will make many who were on the fence into true believers. Add to that the photographer’s trained eye and their instinct for just the right lighting and angles and we’ll have something special. Those of us who feel compelled to scour the internet for every leaked image may be disappointed with our first view of the real thing as some poorly lit and badly angled cell phone photo.
Really wish someone would throw together the photoshop with a scoop more like this. Based on the C8.R racecar that opening bound to look more like so. Or this:
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Zactley 'cause that's captures the airflow best. We know where the inner duct holes are on the production car. The inner ducts will be different with the TC cars and the outer cover will be shaped accordingly. We don't know where they are with the race car. Chaz persists with his intake that can't work properly. Somebody talk to him.
I'm hoping for this although the strongest wind will be at the very top of this intake. We don't know the actual shape of the body panels other than the Coke bottle shape at the sill.
This is the strongest flow, about where it is with the F488.
This Hennesey is where Chaz has his scoop, but the main flow comes from the front of this car. Aesthetics are important but cooling Trumps that.
I like to hear from some of these folks who have had the privilege of seeing the C8 in person while they may not be able to give details they could give us their opinions. Say on a scale of 1 to 10.
OK, I'll tell you what was shared with me. To paraphrase, it is stunning, far better in person than any render, a 10. I trust this person completely.
Originally Posted by skank
All three have done incredible work and should be commended by the whole Forum. We are so lucky to have this talent on this Forum and the forum that they are actually investing their time for. Thanks John.
100% agree. We owe all of them a huge thank you!. I'm also hoping for something very close to this, which will be even more stunning in person.
OK, I'll tell you what was shared with me. To paraphrase, it is stunning, far better in person than any render, a 10. I trust this person completely.
100% agree. We owe all of them a huge thank you!. I'm also hoping for something very close to this, which will be even more stunning in person.
Thanks Foosh that is great news. While a have added a 911s to my garage as I got tired of the wait with a deposit down since January of 2016.
I am still beyond ready to place my order the day the order banks open for the C8 . 1st on the dealership list. Although my dealership is not big Corvette seller they treat me great so I hope they get a early allocation.
This is encouraging news. Now I have to add a second lift in my garage so I can fit 4 toys in a 2 car garage.
I did a single post lift and it's really trick when there are no post to hit with the door when getting in or out.
Now if I can decide between Artic White with red guts or Black with Red cuts with the HTC I will be good to go!
1st world problems. IT'S GREAT TO HEAR SOME POSITIVE NEWS as a life long Corvette guy I have been checking the forum everyday hoping for that break through bit of news or photo of the real deal.
So stunning definitely works for me.
Thanks again
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I've been saying since the C8.R has been seen testing that the scoop is going to look exactly like that on the street car. I don't really understand the apprehension from the renderers to just use that in their renders. If it works on the racecar I doubt it wouldn't work on the car we will be buying...plus it looks about 100% better than that black plastic leading edge thing. Also the scoop needs to extend down to the skirt...the door bulge disappears into the scoop, but does not actually merge with it. This would allow a sort of air split between the radiators and brake cooling ducts without making a separate scoop. This design is seen on the C8.R and seems the most logical.
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I've been saying since the C8.R has been seen testing that the scoop is going to look exactly like that on the street car. I don't really understand the apprehension from the renderers to just use that in their renders. If it works on the racecar I doubt it wouldn't work on the car we will be buying...plus it looks about 100% better than that black plastic leading edge thing. Also the scoop needs to extend down to the skirt...the door bulge disappears into the scoop, but does not actually merge with it. This would allow a sort of air split between the radiators and brake cooling ducts without making a separate scoop. This design is seen on the C8.R and seems the most logical.
Oof I wrote a good explanation but it got lost due to being mobile.
Regardless, its logical due to the simple fact that it is being tested with no camo on the C8.R, so any data regarding cooling can be applied directly to the C8 which is hampered by camo and cladding. Of course GM likely tests on their own private testing tracks without camo but that is risky in today's world of spy photography and the prevalence of drones.
It is also logical to have two separate sources of air flow, one each for brake cooling and engine cooling. Lumping both outlets for cooling in the same air volume within the scoop would create turbulence that reduces efficiency of both systems. By having two distinct uninterrupted air sources for each cooling system you would have the best performance. The door bulge already creates a split in airflow along the side of the car and diverts air along the bottom of the door so it makes sense to use that to divert air to a brake cooling solution, other wise as in Chaz's render that air is doing effectively zero work as there is a side skirt that is creating an aerodynamic separation between air under the car and air travelling along the sides.
I could be very wrong here, as aerodynamics is certainly not my forte, but I think what I am saying is the overall purpose of the design elements we have seen so far.
I've been saying since the C8.R has been seen testing that the scoop is going to look exactly like that on the street car. I don't really understand the apprehension from the renderers to just use that in their renders. If it works on the racecar I doubt it wouldn't work on the car we will be buying...plus it looks about 100% better than that black plastic leading edge thing. Also the scoop needs to extend down to the skirt...the door bulge disappears into the scoop, but does not actually merge with it. This would allow a sort of air split between the radiators and brake cooling ducts without making a separate scoop. This design is seen on the C8.R and seems the most logical.
Except those fenders are at least 4 inches wider which lends to the scoop extending all the way to the side skirt with a much wider opening.
I like the look, but it won't be on the street car version. It's aesthetically and (to a lesser degree) functionally not applicable with normal width fenders. A 500hp street car doesn't need vast gaping scoops for airflow. However, we may see this on a wide-fender GS/Z06 650hp+ version down the road and I would have no qualms about it whatsoever. We are all familiar with the cooling issues of the Z06 and any extra airflow to whisk away radiant heat or reduce IAT would be welcome.
I've been saying since the C8.R has been seen testing that the scoop is going to look exactly like that on the street car. I don't really understand the apprehension from the renderers to just use that in their renders. If it works on the racecar I doubt it wouldn't work on the car we will be buying...plus it looks about 100% better than that black plastic leading edge thing. Also the scoop needs to extend down to the skirt...the door bulge disappears into the scoop, but does not actually merge with it. This would allow a sort of air split between the radiators and brake cooling ducts without making a separate scoop. This design is seen on the C8.R and seems the most logical.
That scoop on the racecar look hideous. JMHO. I have a feeling it won't look like that on the actual car, race or street. That camo scoop is just a big add-on to hide the real scoop design.
That scoop on the racecar look hideous. JMHO. I have a feeling it won't look like that on the actual car, race or street. That camo scoop is just a big add-on to hide the real scoop design.
It's possible that you're correct and that is part of the camo designed to fool the general public .
I do find that would be odd as I am sure that testing the C8R Pratt & Miller would want to have the true aerodynamic effects of the intake as they text and measure it's effects on everything from the intake abilty to properly cool the engine and brake and transaxle to drag it creates.
It does not make a lot of sense that Pratt & Miller would spend hundred of hours and tens of thousands of dollars in both a wind tunnel and on renting the track all the while knowing that the data they are gathering is faulty due to a design of the intake seen on the car is NOT the real design.
To me that makes no sense what so ever.
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People are automatically assuming that is the actual C8R. It may not be at all, but just a mule based upon one of the street car models that they are using for race engine or initial testing, etc. It's probably way too early to have a final configuration of the IMSA GTLM car, and they may not be doing speed or aero testing at this point. They're likely just initial testing to prepare for final race car design. There's no diffuser or other bits one would expect to see on a GTLM car. The race car is more than a year away from first race.
Moreover, that scoop may have extra pieces added to alter it's shape. After all it is in camo.
Good thinking Foosh. Maybe it is the 2021 Z06 camo’d to look like the race car, their actually testing, the 32V, DOHC motor that will be in the Z06 (4.2L or 5.5L).
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