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That was suggested quite a while ago. Its how Cadillac could say the BW will be exclusive to them. Corvette will use the block but w reversed heads, externally mounted turbos, different intake, cam profile(s), and calibration.
i am guessing (because I don’t know) that the Corvette will use different heads, back to a conventional configuration where the exhaust ports are facing outward. I believe that this new Caddy motor has the turbos mounted in the valley with the exhaust ports of the heads facing the valley for a shorter run to the turbo or turbos.
It is truly indicative of the size and scope of your talent. Thanks for finally putting up your best...
Shucks, that sounds like a compliment. I think. I'm all chocked up. I wrote GM and asked if I could built a replica but but they responded with an emphatic no. I tried to put a C3 rear on it but it is more like the P4 Ferrari. It has more volumtuous curves than Mitchell's car. It's for me, so I made it the way I want it. It will be my last Corvette. The rear lamps are 66 Vette. I start with a bunch of free hand sketches. The final detailing I'm busy doing on the buck, is done in clay. Even I am impressed. Don't judge 'till you've seen the real thing.
Are these CAD drawings new? I've not seen these before.
Notice there are red circles and arrows highlighting possible sources of squeaks and rattles, which the automakers are hyper-sensitive about.
They're not new, but haven't gotten much circulation lately. They came out with the original "Zerv" dump. I didn't know that's what the red circles were about. I wish every designer would then have to go take apart his design a few times. I hate the snap together bumpers they've used on the C7 and now I can see they're using the same attachment inboard of the headlight. All to save a production step. Just use a stud plate with nuts like the C5 and make an access hole with the hood up inboard front of the fender. They already have an access hole there on the C7 to adjust the headlight beams. Makes working on the cars a crap shoot for if you're going to break something of get it back together properly. The snap-together unadjustable nature is why C7 bumper fit is all over the place.
Originally Posted by Dominic Sorresso
That was suggested quite a while ago. Its how Cadillac could say the BW will be exclusive to them. Corvette will use the block but w reversed heads, externally mounted turbos, different intake, cam profile(s), and calibration.
Yeah I saw that... just reiterating it. Agree with you.
Originally Posted by Shaka
What are reversed and flipped heads mean?
The Blackwing as designed for the Caddilac is a Hot-V, but since you know everything and are the expert on everything I assume you know this and are getting at something else playing with words. The "high feature" C8 motors will use the blackwing short block and head design, but with traditional side exit exhaust and inboard intake. I'm sure they'll require a unique head casting.
The Blackwing as designed for the Caddilac is a Hot-V, but since you know everything and are the expert on everything I assume you know this and are getting at something else playing with words. The "high feature" C8 motors will use the blackwing short block and head design, but with traditional side exit exhaust and inboard intake. I'm sure they'll require a unique head casting.
I heard that they were working with Cosworth on the heads for the turbo V8s, so this should be pretty interesting.
Cosworth Building New Cadillac Hot V Cylinder Heads, Hints at Future C8 Corvette Engine By Mitch Talley - Sep 24, 2018
We don’t know officially if there will even be a mid-engine C8 Corvette.
But already the rumor mills are spinning about the possibility of the legendary Cosworth company providing one of the more powerful engine versions for the next Corvette.
In a story about Cosworth’s new offices and factory in Shelby Township north of Detroit, Forbes is reporting that the company’s first product from that new facility will be cylinder heads for the 4.2-liter twin-turbo V8 that will debut in the 2019 Cadillac CTS V-Sport.
Forbes says no one from Cosworth would comment about upcoming products, but the website speculated that at least one derivative of the Cadillac V8 could be a more powerful version for use in the mid-engine Corvette.
We do know that Cosworth does have more products in the pipeline. “By the end of 2019, the plant will add more equipment to expand capacity for this and other derivatives,” said manufacturing engineer Ken Bowers, which would certainly fit in with the rumored timeline of Chevy eventually offering more powerful mid-engine Corvette versions as it’s done with previous generations. Photo courtesy of Cosworth
Cosworth, which was founded in England 60 years ago by Mike Costin and Keith Duckworth, definitely has a long history with General Motors, including the 2.0-liter twin-cam four-cylinder engine in the mid-1970s for the Chevrolet Cosworth Vega.
More recently, the company has been producing its AliveDrive system available in the Chevrolet Corvette and Camaro where it is, of course, known as the Performance Data Recorder.
Shucks, that sounds like a compliment. I think. I'm all chocked up. I wrote GM and asked if I could built a replica but but they responded with an emphatic no. I tried to put a C3 rear on it but it is more like the P4 Ferrari. It has more volumtuous curves than Mitchell's car. It's for me, so I made it the way I want it. It will be my last Corvette. The rear lamps are 66 Vette. I start with a bunch of free hand sketches. The final detailing I'm busy doing on the buck, is done in clay. Even I am impressed. Don't judge 'till you've seen the real thing.
Congrats on being close to redesigning the Mach 5.
Sure wish Englishman, Simon *** was involved with the design of the C8. Unlike Chaz and his groupie, he knows something about cars. Prodrive designed the chassis of the scien.
Are you familiar with Jordan Peterson?
You really talk big.. but yet strangely enough I don't see any renders with your name on it..
Why don't you come up with your own drawings or renders and make a new thread.. or STFU
I seem to remember a forum member who works at a local supplier claiming to have seen the "fully dressed" DOHC V8 for the C8. Could be, he works at Cosworth.
You really talk big.. but yet strangely enough I don't see any renders with your name on it..
Why don't you come up with your own drawings or renders and make a new thread.. or STFU
Shaka cant make renderings whatsoever, hes just really good at talking **** and drawing yellow/blue squiggly lines or pre existing renders. hes a 72 year old ***** that thinks he knows everything corvette, because he has a corvette. and an **** yellow ugly one at that.
You really talk big.. but yet strangely enough I don't see any renders with your name on it..
Why don't you come up with your own drawings or renders and make a new thread.. or STFU
I think it is a little ripe to start a thread with your own name in the title unless you are a paying vender. To sign your work can be construed as such. I have been so cautioned. I don't know how others get away with it.
Also, if you start a thread, it belongs to the forum so it is open season and therefore it can be hijacked and contributors are free to post as they please within the sponsor's rules. I don't care if you don't know which are my renders.
When you start a thread with your own name, you hijack the whole damn forum which displays poor character and breeding. I take great exception to this type of conduct. I wonder what type of a person would do such a thing or what he does for a living?
It suggests gross insecurity and is an attempt to control the narrative apart from it being very rude. I have never seen such behaviour on any Forum. The only reason he invites opinions or 'suggestions' is to pretend that we, the decent members, are not aware of the guilt that lies within himself that he attempts to drown by so doing.
I would never do such a thing, if that is indeed your request? I will ignore such a request as it would not only violate my code of ethics but also, it would violate acceptable forum etiquette and protocol that both you and the thread starter abide. QED.
I think it is a little ripe to start a thread with your own name in the title unless you are a paying vender. To sign your work can be construed as such. I have been so cautioned. I don't know how others get away with it.
Also, if you start a thread, it belongs to the forum so it is open season and therefore it can be hijacked and contributors are free to post as they please within the sponsor's rules. I don't care if you don't know which are my renders.
When you start a thread with your own name, you hijack the whole damn forum which displays poor character and breeding. I take great exception to this type of conduct. I wonder what type of a person would do such a thing or what he does for a living?
It suggests gross insecurity and is an attempt to control the narrative apart from it being very rude. I have never seen such behaviour on any Forum. The only reason he invites opinions or 'suggestions' is to pretend that we, the decent members, are not aware of the guilt that lies within himself that he attempts to drown by so doing.
I would never do such a thing, if that is indeed your request? I will ignore such a request as it would not only violate my code of ethics but also, it would violate acceptable forum etiquette and protocol that both you and the thread starter abide. QED.
I give up. I don't know what point you are trying to make. This is a rambling mess. Ignored.
I think it is a little ripe to start a thread with your own name in the title unless you are a paying vender. To sign your work can be construed as such. I have been so cautioned. I don't know how others get away with it. Also, if you start a thread, it belongs to the forum so it is open season and therefore it can be hijacked and contributors are free to post as they please within the sponsor's rules. I don't care if you don't know which are my renders.
When you start a thread with your own name, you hijack the whole damn forum which displays poor character and breeding. I take great exception to this type of conduct. I wonder what type of a person would do such a thing or what he does for a living?
It suggests gross insecurity and is an attempt to control the narrative apart from it being very rude. I have never seen such behaviour on any Forum. The only reason he invites opinions or 'suggestions' is to pretend that we, the decent members, are not aware of the guilt that lies within himself that he attempts to drown by so doing.
I would never do such a thing, if that is indeed your request? I will ignore such a request as it would not only violate my code of ethics but also, it would violate acceptable forum etiquette and protocol that both you and the thread starter abide. QED.
Really? Where the hell are the moderators? None of this childish bickering belongs on the forum. Please take this kind of crap to Facebook or whatever, and do your immature cyber bullying there. Get the hell off of here so the rest of us wanting Chaz, FVS and other creative folks to entertain our fantasies, thank you..��
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I think it is a little ripe to start a thread with your own name in the title unless you are a paying vender. To sign your work can be construed as such. I have been so cautioned. I don't know how others get away with it.
Also, if you start a thread, it belongs to the forum so it is open season and therefore it can be hijacked and contributors are free to post as they please within the sponsor's rules. I don't care if you don't know which are my renders.
When you start a thread with your own name, you hijack the whole damn forum which displays poor character and breeding. I take great exception to this type of conduct. I wonder what type of a person would do such a thing or what he does for a living?
It suggests gross insecurity and is an attempt to control the narrative apart from it being very rude. I have never seen such behaviour on any Forum. The only reason he invites opinions or 'suggestions' is to pretend that we, the decent members, are not aware of the guilt that lies within himself that he attempts to drown by so doing.
I would never do such a thing, if that is indeed your request? I will ignore such a request as it would not only violate my code of ethics but also, it would violate acceptable forum etiquette and protocol that both you and the thread starter abide. QED.
The more of your posts I read, the more I think of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I have a close friend of mine who is a well known leading expert in his field. He prefers to remain anonymous when he participates in forums relating to his professional background.
One of the things he notices are forum "experts" that are anything but the experts they think they are. Many times they are not unintelligent and do have something to offer. But the issue is separating what they know from what they think they know. Separating the wheat from the chaff, as it were.
Frequently their talent is inversely proportional to their arrogance and condescension.
I'm really curious to see how close your renders are to the actual car. How close do you think you are? Also, has the C8 been the most challenging car for
you to decipher?
I'm really curious to see how close your renders are to the actual car. How close do you think you are? Also, has the C8 been the most challenging car for
you to decipher?
Thanks for asking. It seems whenever I’m challenged here, and I go to the trouble of aligning my model with another view or ta CAD or something, I’m still pleasantly surprised when it comes pretty close. I’m also a little depressed at the parts that don’t lineup, Some of which I know I can’t fix because of the way I’ve locked into modeling this car.Actually, this one has been easier but exhausting, but I have a seemingly inexhaustible supply of high-resolution spy pictures in varied lighting that give a lot of clues to the shape.
I’m highly confident that, not including headlights and scoop, it’s more than 95% accurate.
When I modeled the 2016 Camaro, there were plenty of shots at the Nürburgring. But nobody got so up close and personal as the guy who took the pictures of the Corvette at the gas station near the ring. With the 2015 Mustang, I had some help from eager forum members who sent me pretty good info. (That was never the case with cars I’ve modeled from GM). And it all started rather easily back in 2003 when I found isometric front side and top CAD renders of the actual 2005 Mustang. I even had a 3-D printer make a 1/18th scale model of it way back in 2003. I still have it in a box somewhere.
And please don’t criticize ANYBODY about being judgemental. Sheesh...
Air Force term.
chock it up or chocked up
“Chalk it up” is a very old expression that goes back to the custom of writing a customer’s outstanding charges on a chalkboard, especially in a bar. Today it means to give credit in a more general sense, as in the expression “chalk it up to experience” (credit it to experience, add it to your account of experiences).” A successful team may chalk up another win.
You chock your aircraft up by placing chocks at the wheels. Chocked up means that you have been briefed/ de briefed before or after a mission. It's something like wheels up in the charter business. You only get paid for flight time from wheels up to wheels down. A company named Wheels Up is a part owner of this forum. George Soros is also involved.
02-14-2019, 08:46 AM
Photo courtesy of Cosworth
