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Old 10-25-2018, 04:20 PM
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This part will be black trim in carbon fiber weave is my guess or painted black.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
This part will be black trim in carbon fiber weave is my guess or painted black.

i will I’ll be surprised if the scoop is rounded at all. There are strong angular and sharp design cues everywhere else. Round will be a tough fit. We shall see soon... I hope.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:27 PM
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It's my opinion that the Pacman-shaped side scoop is a ruse. The reason I say that is because of the very thin inlet wall on the lower jaw portion of the Pacman side scoop. The upper jaw portion is substantially thicker. This is true for both the C8 and C8-R.

I superimposed onto the shots below of the C8-R the same scoop I traced from the May 2018 images. I did not alter the outline in any way other than to proportionally scale it, then rotate it to fit with the body lines shown in the photo of the car.







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Old 10-25-2018, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by John T
^^^ Not exactly what I believe will happen but I really like this. Very excellent work!!
hope the scoop looks more like a lambo and offered in lambo yellow color, because i just saw one today-wow!
Old 10-25-2018, 09:09 PM
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chazcron, you are an amazing talent. I love what you are doing. Take all the artistic license you wish, for other than GM, none of us definitively know what the scoop is going to look like. What you have is really good looking.

Thank you very much!

I look forward to your work in progress continuing.
his gut I would trust after the 6th gen camaro work he did. So happy he has committed to doing this. Thank you!!!!
Old 10-25-2018, 09:11 PM
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So you you do not think the triangular lip on the door is real?

i understand your reasoning but the thin fake panel over the scoop starts at the top of the door edge and follows the general shape of the door cut out down toward the rocker.

The c8r V shape continues back from the top door edge as seen in some camo images at the same general angle as the V shaped c8R. Where it changes direction and ends is not known but your suggestied shape would mean the triangular piece on the door is fake even tho the image of the guy opening the door from under the lip suggests it it not.

It could be faked of course as could the rear fenders but would they test the car with very fake wrong panels?

As as I said above, the styling cues for the c8 seem to be sharp and angular. I can’t see how a roundish scoop will play into it but time will tell.


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It's my opinion that the Pacman-shaped side scoop is a ruse. The reason I say that is because of the very thin inlet wall on the lower jaw portion of the Pacman side scoop. The upper jaw portion is substantially thicker. This is true for both the C8 and C8-R.

I superimposed onto the shots below of the C8-R the same scoop I traced from the May 2018 images. I did not alter the outline in any way other than to proportionally scale it, then rotate it to fit with the body lines shown in the photo of the car.






Old 10-25-2018, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DanSavage
It's my opinion that the Pacman-shaped side scoop is a ruse. The reason I say that is because of the very thin inlet wall on the lower jaw portion of the Pacman side scoop. The upper jaw portion is substantially thicker. This is true for both the C8 and C8-R.

I superimposed onto the shots below of the C8-R the same scoop I traced from the May 2018 images. I did not alter the outline in any way other than to proportionally scale it, then rotate it to fit with the body lines shown in the photo of the car.






In the first photo it appears that the scoop extends only about a third of the way back from the door to the wheel well. In the second and third pictures the red line extends about two thirds of the way back. Seems it should be shorter then shown.
Old 10-25-2018, 11:04 PM
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This is really rough, probably not worth posting, requires a lot of imagination and you'll probably all hate it, but this is the first stand-alone render, hacked with photoshop. Remember, this is a "WORK IN PROGRESS" thread. (And get used to these placeholder wheels.) Only the roof is new, the rest is just clumsily hinted and not scaled out yet.

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Old 10-25-2018, 11:27 PM
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Very cool! I am enjoying seeing your progress!
Old 10-26-2018, 12:25 PM
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I really think you're on to it. Getting the hood right, getting the inside of the headlights right (drl) are going to be the real challenges I think. Great work so far!
Old 10-26-2018, 12:39 PM
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Nice work man... I'm already imagining the little vents, carbon bits, etc that will bring it to life.

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Old 10-26-2018, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
So you you do not think the triangular lip on the door is real?

i understand your reasoning but the thin fake panel over the scoop starts at the top of the door edge and follows the general shape of the door cut out down toward the rocker.

The c8r V shape continues back from the top door edge as seen in some camo images at the same general angle as the V shaped c8R. Where it changes direction and ends is not known but your suggestied shape would mean the triangular piece on the door is fake even tho the image of the guy opening the door from under the lip suggests it it not.

It could be faked of course as could the rear fenders but would they test the car with very fake wrong panels?

As as I said above, the styling cues for the c8 seem to be sharp and angular. I can’t see how a roundish scoop will play into it but time will tell.
Yes. I'm of the opinion that the lower triangular pieces on both the street and race versions are fake.

I say this mainly because of how the upper and lower portions of the scoop transitions the thickness of the inlet lip.

The upper portion is thick, then tapers sharply to a thin lip on the triangular piece, then widens out to a thick lip once it merges back into the body at the bottom of of the scoop.

I agree. We will only see what the car really looks like once GM decides it's time.
Old 10-26-2018, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom73

In the first photo it appears that the scoop extends only about a third of the way back from the door to the wheel well. In the second and third pictures the red line extends about two thirds of the way back. Seems it should be shorter then shown.
Yes, I agree. Compared to the placement of the street car, the outlines on the racer are slightly aft of where they really should be. I just placed the outline in the general area to see how it fit.
Old 10-26-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chazcron
This is really rough, probably not worth posting, requires a lot of imagination and you'll probably all hate it, but this is the first stand-alone render, hacked with photoshop. Remember, this is a "WORK IN PROGRESS" thread. (And get used to these placeholder wheels.) Only the roof is new, the rest is just clumsily hinted and not scaled out yet.
Why did you go back to including the fake panels from Nurburgring in your render?

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Old 10-26-2018, 03:16 PM
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CorvetteBrando: I do appreciate and agree with your analysis and detailed observations. If you look close I think I took all of these into consideration and addressed them in these renders. The only difference is the angles and perspective IMO.

Where the scoop goes after it disappears under the camo panel is a mystery but here are 3 possible versions.

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Old 10-26-2018, 08:36 PM
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So many posts state that this panel is a fake, that that one is going to be changed later so that the revealed car will look very different from what we are seeing in our renderings.

Think of the cost of flying four ME’s to Nurburgring, probably a crew of 20-30, and spending days testing on the track. Many posts thing that GM was testing with deliverable inaccurate body panels.

Do we not think that inaccurate body panels would invalid much, most or all the test data learned from NRing?

GM has several employees who best job title could be “Masters of Disguise,” so skilled that while we believe we are now seeing just a single layer vinyl skin covering key parts of the car,, we are going to be mightily surprise at the reveal, e.g., how much is underneath the supposed single skin vinyl.

Video of GM disguise program for the current Camaro.

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Old 10-26-2018, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
CorvetteBrando: I do appreciate and agree with your analysis and detailed observations. If you look close I think I took all of these into consideration and addressed them in these renders. The only difference is the angles and perspective IMO.

Where the scoop goes after it disappears under the camo panel is a mystery but here are 3 possible versions.

Orange and Yellow version look the best by far!
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Old 10-27-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by elegant
Video of GM disguise program for the current Camaro.

https://youtu.be/Iqj0Ggvi1OE
Trouble is, they forgot to remove the disguise on the release version! Now they're fast-tracking a new fascia for the SS because, surprisingly, ugly doesn't sell.

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Agree fully.
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Originally Posted by elegant
So many posts state that this panel is a fake, that that one is going to be changed later so that the revealed car will look very different from what we are seeing in our renderings.

Think of the cost of flying four ME’s to Nurburgring, probably a crew of 20-30, and spending days testing on the track. Many posts thing that GM was testing with deliverable inaccurate body panels.

Do we not think that inaccurate body panels would invalid much, most or all the test data learned from NRing?
The tacked-on panel over the side scoop is the only part of the body I've been saying is fake. Maybe it's real. But if it is, it looks pretty crude to me.


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