chazcron's 3D model work in progress
#301
I spend a fair amount of time researching that very notion last night. Those fascia spy shots, I believe, were early mock ups. I use them for general feel, but I think the details are different on the final. I don't believe it is visible from the side. It is set back a few inches and I never found a side view where it was visible. Usually after fleshing out the rest, some new info comes along. I also spent about twenty minutes fixing a detail FVS pointed out.
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IronV (11-21-2018)
#307
Melting Slicks
Its looking good,
The only problem that I see is that the scoop looks to apparent from that angle,(sticks out like a wart)
I think it’s more rearward,and casually tucks into the rear quarter .
Theres a video taken in Fort Myers with a couple of dudes filming the car that shows this...beneath the camo the camo.
I wouldn’t use the C8R as reference.Theres better stuff out there.
The only problem that I see is that the scoop looks to apparent from that angle,(sticks out like a wart)
I think it’s more rearward,and casually tucks into the rear quarter .
Theres a video taken in Fort Myers with a couple of dudes filming the car that shows this...beneath the camo the camo.
I wouldn’t use the C8R as reference.Theres better stuff out there.
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John T (11-16-2018)
#308
Race Director
I too believe many of the sketches have the side scoops as too promounced or protruding.
i think the ferrari testarossa was the rear mid engine vehicle that had to put slates in the side scoops to meet pedestrian safety standards...
it was originally styled without the many slates but they were out in after to meet governement safety standards...
the c8 will in my opinion have a less promounced side scoop that we have seen in the beatiful sketches...
id be happy if the sketches were accurate but as i stated i think we will see them toned down for production..
jmo
btw your sketches are awesome!
i think the ferrari testarossa was the rear mid engine vehicle that had to put slates in the side scoops to meet pedestrian safety standards...
it was originally styled without the many slates but they were out in after to meet governement safety standards...
the c8 will in my opinion have a less promounced side scoop that we have seen in the beatiful sketches...
id be happy if the sketches were accurate but as i stated i think we will see them toned down for production..
jmo
btw your sketches are awesome!
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#310
Only commenting because you asked.
I really appreciate the work you're putting into this so it's the least I could do.
One question while I'm logged in:
On the leaked rear fascia pictures, as well as the Nurburgring pics, it appears that the vents on the rear fascia wrap around/curve along the side of the rear. Just curious if you've seen that detail or not.
I really appreciate the work you're putting into this so it's the least I could do.
One question while I'm logged in:
On the leaked rear fascia pictures, as well as the Nurburgring pics, it appears that the vents on the rear fascia wrap around/curve along the side of the rear. Just curious if you've seen that detail or not.
#311
I think some of us are talking apples and oranges as far as the scoop beginning at the door frame or not
The CAD drawing and my overlay shows that the body cut out for this scoop and ductwork begin at the door jam. This area is obviously covered by some other part or trim pieces and does not indicate the shape of the outer scoop funnel. We are relying on some of the eyewitnesses that have described the outer bodywork shape of the scoop.
so in some sense, we are all correct… To a degree. ; ).
I think the width of the scoop sticking off the body as shown in the camo images is close to reality. They do not stick out further than the rear fenders and as Shaka pointed out, the Coke bottle shape and body pinch area in front of the scoop make it look like it sticks out further than it really does. C7 Pimp also commented on how large the intake looks from a front - ish angle.
I believe the scoop “shoebox” as it appears now on the camo Carrs Will be blended with very attractive and interesting contours into the rear fender. The actual, visible, shape of the scoop has been described several different ways so maybe there are different trim levels and looks?
hopefully we get a little more real information soon but it has been fun detecting and speculating with everyone!
I am looking forward to being surprised by the look and all of the features of this new American “superCar” !
come on GM.... thro us a bone!
The CAD drawing and my overlay shows that the body cut out for this scoop and ductwork begin at the door jam. This area is obviously covered by some other part or trim pieces and does not indicate the shape of the outer scoop funnel. We are relying on some of the eyewitnesses that have described the outer bodywork shape of the scoop.
so in some sense, we are all correct… To a degree. ; ).
I think the width of the scoop sticking off the body as shown in the camo images is close to reality. They do not stick out further than the rear fenders and as Shaka pointed out, the Coke bottle shape and body pinch area in front of the scoop make it look like it sticks out further than it really does. C7 Pimp also commented on how large the intake looks from a front - ish angle.
I believe the scoop “shoebox” as it appears now on the camo Carrs Will be blended with very attractive and interesting contours into the rear fender. The actual, visible, shape of the scoop has been described several different ways so maybe there are different trim levels and looks?
hopefully we get a little more real information soon but it has been fun detecting and speculating with everyone!
I am looking forward to being surprised by the look and all of the features of this new American “superCar” !
come on GM.... thro us a bone!
Last edited by firstvettesoon; 11-16-2018 at 11:27 AM.
#312
Only commenting because you asked.
I really appreciate the work you're putting into this so it's the least I could do.
One question while I'm logged in:
On the leaked rear fascia pictures, as well as the Nurburgring pics, it appears that the vents on the rear fascia wrap around/curve along the side of the rear. Just curious if you've seen that detail or not.
I really appreciate the work you're putting into this so it's the least I could do.
One question while I'm logged in:
On the leaked rear fascia pictures, as well as the Nurburgring pics, it appears that the vents on the rear fascia wrap around/curve along the side of the rear. Just curious if you've seen that detail or not.
Maybe the trim/grill that fills the hole in the paint shop part wraps? Very hard to tell exactly what is happening there. Either way... it doesn't wrap around very much or enough to change the "look" that much. Will be a nice detail to find out for sure.
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#314
Safety Car
I really like it as you have rendered it. If the front edge of the scoop were however body colored, as it is being discussed on a thread elsewhere, the scoop visually sticks out a lot less. While our C7 Z06 is a very deliberate a mix of Velocity Yellow with many chosen black metallic OEM and some aftermarket contrasting black pieces, I am leaning toward our ME have no contrasting color on the front edge of the scoop — as you earlier did, and as FVS also done. Personally, the scoop is enough of a design feature as is, so I prefer it all body colored. Just my one cent.
Last edited by elegant; 11-16-2018 at 02:05 PM.
#315
Safety Car
I really like it as you have rendered it. If the front edge of the scoop were however body colored, as it is being discussed on a thread elsewhere, the scoop visually sticks out a lot less. While our C7 Z06 is a very deliberate a mix of Velocity Yellow with many chosen black metallic OEM and some aftermarket contrasting black pieces, I am leaning toward our ME have no contrasting color on the front edge of the scoop — as you earlier did, and as FVS also done. Personally, the scoop is enough of a design feature as is, so I prefer it all body colored. Just my one cent.
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elegant (11-16-2018)
#316
Melting Slicks
By George, I think you've got it. Great work. Looks like a Vette, yeah.
This is FVS render mutilated by me. The side scoop can't be where it is in your render aerodynamically speaking. It must follow the door edge because the 'known' ducting entrance is directly behind the door. It can't be like the C8R as shown either because of the same reason. . I moved the front end forward and lowered it. I raised the wheels and wheel arches in line with the C8R. This looks like a Vette but not futuristic.
This is FVS render mutilated by me. The side scoop can't be where it is in your render aerodynamically speaking. It must follow the door edge because the 'known' ducting entrance is directly behind the door. It can't be like the C8R as shown either because of the same reason. . I moved the front end forward and lowered it. I raised the wheels and wheel arches in line with the C8R. This looks like a Vette but not futuristic.
#317
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You asked. The rear facia looks good and is probably as accurate as can be seen on the Camo pics. My wish is that the ME’s butt stays much cleaner than on my C7 driving 15 minutes after a wash. Maybe those large air exhaust openings will do the trick. With the snow testing ME pics I’m not encouraged, thus far.
#318
Don't count on it. The same aero that provides desirable downforce is what creates the low-pressure zone on the rear of the car that creates a dirty butt.
#319
Race Director
I too believe many of the sketches have the side scoops as too promounced or protruding.
i think the ferrari testarossa was the rear mid engine vehicle that had to put slates in the side scoops to meet pedestrian safety standards...
it was originally styled without the many slates but they were out in after to meet governement safety standards...
the c8 will in my opinion have a less promounced side scoop that we have seen in the beatiful sketches...
id be happy if the sketches were accurate but as i stated i think we will see them toned down for production..
jmo
btw your sketches are awesome!
i think the ferrari testarossa was the rear mid engine vehicle that had to put slates in the side scoops to meet pedestrian safety standards...
it was originally styled without the many slates but they were out in after to meet governement safety standards...
the c8 will in my opinion have a less promounced side scoop that we have seen in the beatiful sketches...
id be happy if the sketches were accurate but as i stated i think we will see them toned down for production..
jmo
btw your sketches are awesome!
#320
Refine refine refine. and Photoshop
Here is a patched update to the last rear ender.
A good 3/4 view really helped me ascertain proportions. I'm not saying they are completely accurate, but they are close and pretty clean. I should finish modeling the pipes and lower baffles tomorrow, but for now, I am cooked. Thanks FVS for continuing to guide my fine tuning. I really appreciate it.
A good 3/4 view really helped me ascertain proportions. I'm not saying they are completely accurate, but they are close and pretty clean. I should finish modeling the pipes and lower baffles tomorrow, but for now, I am cooked. Thanks FVS for continuing to guide my fine tuning. I really appreciate it.
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