chazcron's 3D model work in progress
#1521
Safety Car
Are you familiar with Jordan Peterson?
Last edited by Shaka; 02-11-2019 at 09:29 AM.
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John T (02-11-2019)
#1522
Race Director
"Unlike Chaz and his groupie, he knows something about cars"
Yep Shaka, I too wonder why everybody is picking on poor little you.
Please show us that again that genius kit car design of yours, which you posted earlier, that establishes your credibility to critique of Chaz's work....
Yep Shaka, I too wonder why everybody is picking on poor little you.
Please show us that again that genius kit car design of yours, which you posted earlier, that establishes your credibility to critique of Chaz's work....
#1523
Safety Car
I love the blow-in doors on the side scoops. Very cool.
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John T (02-11-2019)
#1524
Melting Slicks
I am not familiar with Jordan but it seems Prodrive is hugely successful. Simon also did the ELR? I believe that is one of Cadillac's best designs in recent years. I liked it much better than the ATS. Also Shaka-- My old man had a 57 or 58 Cad Brougham in a bright blue, maybe 15,000 miles. I should have kept that damn thing. It may have been missing the three carb setup but it was perfect. Tissue dispenser, silver cups-
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Shaka (02-11-2019)
#1526
The Chrysler ME-412 was much more "ahead of its time" than the Cien was.
Look at the Enzo. It likewise looks incredible still, yet dated.
Last edited by C7pimp; 02-11-2019 at 03:32 PM.
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#1527
Amazing work Chaz. You even got the subtle line that extends mid door through the scoop and then into the quarter to the rear tail light point. I've noticed it in camo pics, and it's very faint.
The only thing I think you have markedly wrong is the center of the nose. You have it as all grill when clearly the N-ring test cars show that center section will be solid.
The only thing I think you have markedly wrong is the center of the nose. You have it as all grill when clearly the N-ring test cars show that center section will be solid.
Last edited by RapidC84B; 02-11-2019 at 02:37 PM.
#1528
Clearly.
#1529
Do you think the N-ring pics aren't accurate? I just can't see them doing testing at a place like that w/o the production surfaces and air management unobstructed. They've had the "gaping mouth" look for two generations now. Maybe they're going back to the C4/5 "split cove" look.
#1530
I'm no engineer, but there's no need for air going in there with no front engine, the intakes are in the outermost grille and on the side. If GM can make the fairing under that camo shape look good, I'd be quite surprised and impressed.
Paint shop images have nothing there either.
Paint shop images have nothing there either.
#1531
Melting Slicks
Do you think the N-ring pics aren't accurate? I just can't see them doing testing at a place like that w/o the production surfaces and air management unobstructed. They've had the "gaping mouth" look for two generations now. Maybe they're going back to the C4/5 "split cove" look.
Primary reason ,was to test tires....
Hence...the distorted scoop,uncovered headlights etc.
Obviously ,once on the track,every car manufacturer can test other things as well...(usually play cat and mouse,or even possum ...with their closest competitor .
#1532
The Nuremberg event was an industry only ,tire manufacturer event.(invitational,paid by the tire manufacturer )Posrsche,BMW ,Toyota were there as well.
Primary reason ,was to test tires....
Hence...the distorted scoop,uncovered headlights etc.
Obviously ,once on the track,every car manufacturer can test other things as well...(usually play cat and mouse,or even possum ...with their closest competitor .
Primary reason ,was to test tires....
Hence...the distorted scoop,uncovered headlights etc.
Obviously ,once on the track,every car manufacturer can test other things as well...(usually play cat and mouse,or even possum ...with their closest competitor .
The headlights are as efficient as they can install w/o putting the production unit in there and giving it away. They had a very similar insert in the C7 mules. It's that or the heavy tarp/cladding/camo which wouldn't work for high speed ring runs.
Regardless, I'm tired of the gaping mouth look on everything... I hope the front center is body colored and has the two side cove inlets as pictured.
#1533
Race Director
I'm no engineer, but there's no need for air going in there with no front engine, the intakes are in the outermost grille and on the side. If GM can make the fairing under that camo shape look good, I'd be quite surprised and impressed.
Paint shop images have nothing there either.
Paint shop images have nothing there either.
#1534
Safety Car
The primary one(s) will be up front; there could well be secondary heat exchangers in the rear quarters being air fed through the side scoops.
#1535
Race Director
Another question, where does the cooling air exit? I don’t see an outlet on the hood like the C7. Maybe through the wheel wells. Would not want it exiting under the car as that would mess up the aero as you want to keep air out from under the car.
#1536
Safety Car
Could be that the are two radiators up front, one on each side of the center closure that we saw at the Ring. We have seen outlet air grilles in the front wheel liners.
Last edited by elegant; 02-11-2019 at 03:49 PM.
#1537
Race Director
I have seen those and they may work for oil coolers but no way will they move enough air for engine cooling. Besides, they would be beside the radiators, while the radiators need the outlets to be further back behind the radiators.
#1538
So the grill will need to be open to handle the air cooling requirements. Wonder why the ‘ring cars had it blocked.
Another question, where does the cooling air exit? I don’t see an outlet on the hood like the C7. Maybe through the wheel wells. Would not want it exiting under the car as that would mess up the aero as you want to keep air out from under the car.
Another question, where does the cooling air exit? I don’t see an outlet on the hood like the C7. Maybe through the wheel wells. Would not want it exiting under the car as that would mess up the aero as you want to keep air out from under the car.
Works for Ferrari
Last edited by RapidC84B; 02-11-2019 at 04:02 PM.
#1539
Race Director
But Porsche is only cooling a small 6, not a big 8. Think ZR1 cooling issues.
#1540
One could only dream the C8 has such an amazing front-end as this Regera
Last edited by C7pimp; 02-11-2019 at 04:16 PM.