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Originally Posted by pietro c7


Does they’re reassurance really make a difference??
We’re dealing with an uncontested fruit cake.
HahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhah ahahahahahahHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

I was wondering when someone was either going to call "foul" or "fruits" !!!!!
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Originally Posted by MitchAlsup
But, are you wiling to eat a straw hat if you are wrong? On camera?
I eat straw hats for breakfast, cameras for desert
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Originally Posted by zr_kaizen
Also, it’s possible this “leak” is a honeypot, and Zerv took the bait. Companies I’ve worked with have done this plenty of times...and we’ve caught plenty of leakers. Careful out there!
In that case..... VPN is a life saver
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If that is the price, I am out. I can afford it but refuse yto spend the price of a house on a car. I'll keep my 93. I guess corvette is going Ferrari. I believe they are making a mistake. Young people are not buying a corvette. Maybe in the future
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$169K for the entry level model, wont happen, unless the ME is a one off, like the Ford GT. Which, looking at these pictures, it wont be. Where are the flying buttresses? All jokes aside. Looking at the pre-production MEs running around, thats not even close to looking like a $169K car. The rear wing looks like an erector set made of popsicle sticks. The side vents are assumed to be for engine cooling. GM knows this problem, after dealing with the Z06 engine overheating problems. But, for me, I don't see any serious "downforce" design being used, here. The MFGRs getting cars into the "under 7 minute" times, on the ring, are using extensive aero.

That little thumbnail spoiler, out back, on the ME cruising around the ring, is near useless, as far as downforce is concerned. Take a look at the heavy hitters, in the downforce game. Lamborghini, really has this down with their ALA. Hence how the Huracan, and now the Aventador SVJ are into the 6 second lap times, around the ring. Both cars, have active torque vectoring, and AWD. The Porsche 911 GT3RS 991.2, only manages a 7:12. The 911 GT2RS, at more than twice the price, has a lot more active aero, with its huge front fender vents. The McLaren 720S, which annihilates a ZR1, in straight line performance, has rather sophisticated active aero, and only manages a 7:14. Again, $169K would be a dud, considering the base GT3 starts at $144K. Hell, the Huracan base car, is $199K. If Im going to spend $170K for a Corvette, I would much rather have a Huracan, for $20K more. I could make up the $20K in a down payment, and be at the same price point. It just doesn't make sense.

More on the Lamborghini ALA. If you dont know anything about ALA, and are a car geek, like I am, this video will amaze you.


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Originally Posted by Zerv02
I eat straw hats for breakfast, cameras for desert
And ,of course ,a steady diet of heavy narcotics for lunch and supper.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
The ZR1 is over $145K and Zora will be higher performance, so what's the question?
I don't want to put words in your mouth:
You believe:
The C8 (or Zora which is ????) is a world car to be offered only in ZR1 level performance trim?
The "C7.5" is a refresh of the C7 that continues as the BASE Corvette?

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Originally Posted by PCMIII
We are going to get the Stingray C7.5. The Zora is for the world market.
So, the only REAL Corvette market gets the refresh of the car that's been on sale since fall 2013. And the "WORLD", which has shown LITTLE to NO interest in buying Corvettes, gets the cool, mid-engine car?

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Whether Zerv is laughing his @ss off right now or he does have the inside track I have no idea, but how can I not follow this thread now?!
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly65

If that’s the base price or there is no FE still available GM can kiss 2/3 of it’s Corvette sales goodbye
I would say more like 4/5
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Originally Posted by tstad9i1
I'm out. Gonna order a Yaris instead.
I'm gonna get the new Supra, er, Z4.....whatever it is.
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Originally Posted by TXvert
Whether Zerv is laughing his @ss off right now or he does have the inside track I have no idea, but how can I not follow this thread now?!
Here's his inside track:
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Originally Posted by msm859
I would say more like 4/5
More like 9.8/10. If it is $170k, older buyers will go for a 911 variant, used Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc...And their plan to lower the avg owner age has been abandoned.
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I’ve noticed a lot of “resistance” to your claim... I’ve also noticed no response to the ask for your info source or clarification as to what version it applies to (base, GS, Z06, or ZR1) as yet. I’m keeping my wild as guess for an attainable price for the base car alive.

it would be an interesting twist though, if GM introduced the top line / performance car first the. Followed up with the less expensive versions after. But, there’s no historical precedent for that either. So exciting!


Originally Posted by Zerv02
$169,900 is a go,

if your in the "under 100k" camp, you will be disappointed.
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Of course, let's not forget that our boy, Zerv02, didn't state what LEVEL car he was talking about. So...when the hyper C8 comes out in 2023 at a price close to his $169,900, he can claim victory. Sort of like a politician would do.
For everyone else:
The base C8 will be NO WHERE CLOSE to that price, so don't get all wound up. This is a TROLL thread.
Relax.
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Definitely sounds like a well equipped upper tier variant vs a base. I think GM can pull off a sub 100k pricepoint but...they know the parameters internally, I don't. I just think they need to close the gap to the front engine unless this mid engine is going to have staggering levels of ability. In the grand scheme, 169 (if equipped) is still a pretty nice range (AMG GT, NSX, GTR, mid level Porsche, etc).

All I know....is I am tired of GM games with this drawn out saga. Just toured their SEMA booth today and I'll just say (again and again)...GM marketing sucks ***. They just don't have a connection with enthusiasts and people who really have passion. Literally ever OEM there put their cars in the hands of builders and let them loose. GM has a couple offerings in there but not much. Not ONE Corvette in their booth...I mean...really?

I like GM's products but...they are just a dollars and cents brand that can't even fake passion. Ford CRUSHES this show...amazing the difference. 3 Ford GT's, countless Mustang and F150 builds...sick booth. Ford has to sure make Ford fans proud I tell ya.
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Originally Posted by Z51VetteFan
$169K for the entry level model, wont happen, unless the ME is a one off, like the Ford GT. Which, looking at these pictures, it wont be. Where are the flying buttresses? All jokes aside. Looking at the pre-production MEs running around, thats not even close to looking like a $169K car. The rear wing looks like an erector set made of popsicle sticks. The side vents are assumed to be for engine cooling. GM knows this problem, after dealing with the Z06 engine overheating problems. But, for me, I don't see any serious "downforce" design being used, here. The MFGRs getting cars into the "under 7 minute" times, on the ring, are using extensive aero.

That little thumbnail spoiler, out back, on the ME cruising around the ring, is near useless, as far as downforce is concerned. Take a look at the heavy hitters, in the downforce game. Lamborghini, really has this down with their ALA. Hence how the Huracan, and now the Aventador SVJ are into the 6 second lap times, around the ring. Both cars, have active torque vectoring, and AWD. The Porsche 911 GT3RS 991.2, only manages a 7:12. The 911 GT2RS, at more than twice the price, has a lot more active aero, with its huge front fender vents. The McLaren 720S, which annihilates a ZR1, in straight line performance, has rather sophisticated active aero, and only manages a 7:14. Again, $169K would be a dud, considering the base GT3 starts at $144K. Hell, the Huracan base car, is $199K. If Im going to spend $170K for a Corvette, I would much rather have a Huracan, for $20K more. I could make up the $20K in a down payment, and be at the same price point. It just doesn't make sense.

More on the Lamborghini ALA. If you dont know anything about ALA, and are a car geek, like I am, this video will amaze you.

https://youtu.be/Ur4NLTqqWEw
The spoiler is an add on. I feel strongly it will NOT be on the production car. You are seeing the BASE C8, which is obvious from the brakes. Not really fair to compare the BASE car to everyone else's factory hotrods.

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Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
Definitely sounds like a well equipped upper tier variant vs a base. I think GM can pull off a sub 100k pricepoint but...they know the parameters internally, I don't. I just think they need to close the gap to the front engine unless this mid engine is going to have staggering levels of ability. In the grand scheme, 169 (if equipped) is still a pretty nice range (AMG GT, NSX, GTR, mid level Porsche, etc).

All I know....is I am tired of GM games with this drawn out saga. Just toured their SEMA booth today and I'll just say (again and again)...GM marketing sucks ***. They just don't have a connection with enthusiasts and people who really have passion. Literally ever OEM there put their cars in the hands of builders and let them loose. GM has a couple offerings in there but not much. Not ONE Corvette in their booth...I mean...really?

I like GM's products but...they are just a dollars and cents brand that can't even fake passion. Ford CRUSHES this show...amazing the difference. 3 Ford GT's, countless Mustang and F150 builds...sick booth. Ford has to sure make Ford fans proud I tell ya.
Maybe you should go to an IMSA race next year to see Corvette Marketing in action.

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Originally Posted by Zerv02
Really? And what do you have to say in regards to Ford and their GT car? Troves of people lining up and hoping to be one the lucky few to land an allocation and drop over 500k?

(Not saying this vehicle will be on par with the GT, nor will it be a halo model)
Why do you and many on this forum compare the Ford GT to the new ME? The Ford GT has always been a Mid-Engine low volume high price performance car with incredible race heritage. Ford justified the new GT by marketing the Eco-boost V6 Powertrain to help boost sales in their trucks and cars. This generation GT was built to win the 24 hour race to help with its marketing. Corvette does not need to follow them as they have an incredible product with a fan base most sport car manufacturers would kill for. Why would GM walk away from what made them successful for the past 60+ years, it’s not going to happen. A 169k ME from GM would be the death of BG, they would fail. How many of their loyal fans would they loose to get them to buy 169k sports car. I have purchased cars north of that price point and their are very small percentage of people that could and are willing to spend that much money on a car.

We keep hearing the ME will be powered by a push-rod motor then a year later with a dual overhead cam motor. Who is paying 169k for a pushrod powered mid engine sports car from a company that has never produced one north of 169k?Sports car market at 169k plus is more crowded than we think when compared to the amount of people willing to pay that much money for a car. Plus they are higher end exclusive luxury brands that just have a better story, dealer network with exclusive history making mid engine cars. Corvette has always been a semi affordable sport car, I say GM trying to convert it to a more exclusive higher end brand would be a tall hurdle without them addressing the Chevrolet dealer network it falls under.

Logic, History, Dedicated corvette factory, GM conservative ways just tell me you are wrong about the price being 169k. Many want a Ford GT competitor at a higher price point, I say there is no need to do it as Corvette can build one for a lot less and still beat the GT in profits and on the track.

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