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Old 11-30-2018, 12:11 PM
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PCM clearly leads a very active fantasy life.
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
In keeping with this thread from the beginning, here's ANOTHER number pulled out of the sky.
100K? Link to where THAT number came from.
In 2014 (latest data found), GM's 12 assembly plants in the U.S. produced 2.1 million vehicles or a average of 175,000 each. If a plant produced 100,000 vehicles, that would be 57% of the average. Running 80% of capacity is necessary to make a profit. If a plant isn't profitable, it must have a viable plan to become profitable. If there is no plan for profitable operations, the plant must be closed.

But of course if you have better data or analysis, please share it with me. I'd be happy to see what you've got, but I assume you got nuthin.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OnPoint
The only thing factual I've seen from GM on BGA's production capacity post-investment/renovation have been the plant manager Kai Spande's recent comments that BGA post-reconfiguration is set up to produce 33,000 units at max firewall overtime, in order to right size production to demand over the life of the gen.
He was referring to the ME and parts availability therefor. Obviously, other vehicles will be built at BGA which is essential to amortize the capex recently spent.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:32 PM
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BGA, even after expansion, is much smaller than several of the larger GM assembly plants. You boggle my mind.

I guess you missed the citation from Kai Spande, BGA Plant Manager, that the reconfigured plant is set up for max production of 33K units annually, and since the C7 is no longer selling well, it's operating well under capacity. You don't build stuff you can't sell.

You completely ignore facts and mangle data to fit your bizarre thought process.

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Old 11-30-2018, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Oh come on...YOU think the PLANT DIRECTOR for BGA knows more than our boy, PCMIII? What are you, on dope?
Here's the difference: I can read English.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
BGA, even after expansion, is much smaller than several of the larger GM assembly plants. You boggle my mind.
You think BGA will be profitable making a maximum 33K cars annually? What are YOU smoking?
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:42 PM
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Why yes it is very profitable at that number. During the GM bankruptcy and restructuring, the Gov overseers found Corvette to be the most profitable model.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
You think BGA will be profitable making a maximum 33K cars annually? What are YOU smoking?
So are you saying that since GM has never sold 100,000 corvettes annually that corvette has never been profitable?
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
BGA needs to produce 100K vehicles annually, so unless there are multiple new SUVs in the pipeline somewhere, 30K ain't gonna cut it.

Just keep making **** up.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
He was referring to the ME and parts availability therefor. Obviously, other vehicles will be built at BGA which is essential to amortize the capex recently spent.
Well, if you have something factual from GM other than what Kai Spande has provided, I'd be keen to see it.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Here's the difference: I can read English.
Possibly, but your brain doesn't process it very well.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Here's the difference: I can read English.
Very true...and you have tremendous grammar skills as well...

The problem is you seem to think you know a little about math.
Life is unfair like that sometimes,stick to your strong points.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
So are you saying that since GM has never sold 100,000 corvettes annually that corvette has never been profitable?
BGA was much smaller before so there was no capex to amortize and the development costs of new generations were much less because they used the same basic design, engines, and technology.
The ME is vastly different than anything built before. Why is this such a mystery to you?
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pietro c7


Very true...and you have tremendous grammar skills as well...

The problem is you seem to think you know a little about math.
Life is unfair like that sometimes,stick to your strong points.
Have you ever done any logical analysis of anything? All you seem to have is some random opinions.
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Originally Posted by pietro c7


Very true...and you have tremendous grammar skills as well...

The problem is you seem to think you know a little about math.
Life is unfair like that sometimes,stick to your strong points.
Have you ever done any logical analysis of anything? All you seem to have is some random opinions.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
The ME is vastly different than anything built before. Why is this such a mystery to you?
No, it really isn't. That's where you continually fly off the rails. It will be built drawing largely from the GM parts bin just like all other models. It is clear that you don't understand much of anything about the auto industry or manufacturing in general.

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Originally Posted by Foosh
No, it really isn't. That's where you continually fly off the rails. It will be built drawing largely from the GM parts bin just like all other models. It is clear that you don't understand much of anything about the auto industry or manufacturing in general.
Sounds like he/she just finished their 1st year econ/business course lol (PCMlll)

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Originally Posted by OnPoint
Well, if you have something factual from GM other than what Kai Spande has provided, I'd be keen to see it.
"One of the new technologies employed at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant is a section called the Skillet Line."

The skillets enable the production of multiple models because there is no traditional assembly line. Why would they do a skillet line instead of the old assembly line unless they plan to build multiple vehicles?
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Old 11-30-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Apocolipse
Sounds like he/she just finished their 1st year econ/business course lol (PCMlll)
So Zora is going to be a parts bin car? I don't think so, but please enlighten me with your source.
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