$169,900, final price confirmed
12-21-2018, 08:15 PM
#1661
Melting Slicks
You gave no proof of $170k for the c8... you have no proof that GM will give it that price.. Your “logic” is not proof. Only GM naming the price is “proof” which you don’t have and you can’t substitute in your opinion. I can’t conceive of a clearer way to say it. Therefore, when you say someone’s statement is ‘faith based’ make sure you don’t give back that same faith in response.
Last edited by tcinla; 12-21-2018 at 08:21 PM.
12-21-2018, 08:28 PM
#1662
Melting Slicks
I was just trying to help you out in understanding why the C8 ME is going to be a lot more than you think. Believe whatever you want. Makes no difference to me because you are the one who will get the sticker shock when the moment of "proof" arrives. I will be ready, OTOH, for a price above the ZR1 and make my decision based on what the car offers for that money. Maybe it will be another bargain like the ZR1 for which there is high demand despite the high price. Or maybe it will be like the NSX that nobody wants. In any event, I will be ready for the high price while you will not.
12-21-2018, 08:38 PM
#1663
Melting Slicks
I was just trying to help you out in understanding why the C8 ME is going to be a lot more than you think. Believe whatever you want. Makes no difference to me because you are the one who will get the sticker shock when the moment of "proof" arrives. I will be ready, OTOH, for a price above the ZR1 and make my decision based on what the car offers for that money. Maybe it will be another bargain like the ZR1 for which there is high demand despite the high price. Or maybe it will be like the NSX that nobody wants. In any event, I will be ready for the high price while you will not.
so you have no proof. Got it.
12-21-2018, 08:50 PM
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12-23-2018, 06:39 PM
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12-23-2018, 10:36 PM
#1667
Melting Slicks
Just depends on what Corvette's goal is with the ME. Simply make another run of the mill car in base form as they have for decades, or build the best possible to beat Porsche and conquer the world market?
Obviously, lots of folks here would be happy with the run of the mill ME first, but most Corvette buyers have never been interested in ME per se which is why Corvette has never built one. Believe anything you want because it doesn't matter to me, but I am not interested in a run of the mill, glorified Fiero with a V8.
12-23-2018, 11:05 PM
#1669
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The extent to which you miss the boat on this cannot possibly be overstated. ….. But I put my money on GM sticking the business model that has worked with the Corvette for 70 years, that means a base price in line with that thinking and I doubt that would be over $60-$65K. All your 'logic' is rationalization to support your silly pricing theory.,,,,
Apparently he does not understand or wish to believe GM is in business to make a volume car and not to compete head on with a "supercar." He also does not understand the marketing position issue said best in my recent post: "Folks selling Rolex watches don't sell Timex and folks selling Timex don't also sell Rolex!"
Last edited by JerryU; 12-23-2018 at 11:08 PM.
12-23-2018, 11:16 PM
#1671
16 Vettes and counting…..
This thread has been going nowhere from the start. It's become just one more giant pissing match, the likes of which has turned this forum into a swamp of misinformation and click bait. The inmates are running the asylum. The accurate information that does emerge here, what little there is of it lately, is hardly worth sifting through the muck. This particular unbearable bit of slime should have been closed down a long time ago.
Last edited by VETTE-NV; 12-23-2018 at 11:17 PM.
12-24-2018, 02:03 AM
#1673
This thread has been going nowhere from the start. It's become just one more giant pissing match, the likes of which has turned this forum into a swamp of misinformation and click bait. The inmates are running the asylum. The accurate information that does emerge here, what little there is of it lately, is hardly worth sifting through the muck. This particular unbearable bit of slime should have been closed down a long time ago.
12-24-2018, 02:33 AM
#1674
Race Director
Remind me the MSRP of a fully loaded C7 ZR-1?
If the new C8 Mid Engine hits a homerun on both design and performance that exceeds 755 hp, hit 0-60 in 2.X and runs down Ferrari and Lamborghinis for 1/2 to 1/3rd the price, why not?
The Acura NSX is selling for $160k. It may be selling slowly, but it is selling.
The new C8 ME should blow the Acura out by a landslide in performance. And if the new C8 high performance type model is over 755 hp, I highly doubt it will sell for less than a fully loaded outgoing C7 ZR-1.
12-24-2018, 07:34 AM
#1675
Agreed. But you are talking base model pricing.
Remind me the MSRP of a fully loaded C7 ZR-1?
If the new C8 Mid Engine hits a homerun on both design and performance that exceeds 755 hp, hit 0-60 in 2.X and runs down Ferrari and Lamborghinis for 1/2 to 1/3rd the price, why not?
The Acura NSX is selling for $160k. It may be selling slowly, but it is selling.
The new C8 ME should blow the Acura out by a landslide in performance. And if the new C8 high performance type model is over 755 hp, I highly doubt it will sell for less than a fully loaded outgoing C7 ZR-1.
Remind me the MSRP of a fully loaded C7 ZR-1?
If the new C8 Mid Engine hits a homerun on both design and performance that exceeds 755 hp, hit 0-60 in 2.X and runs down Ferrari and Lamborghinis for 1/2 to 1/3rd the price, why not?
The Acura NSX is selling for $160k. It may be selling slowly, but it is selling.
The new C8 ME should blow the Acura out by a landslide in performance. And if the new C8 high performance type model is over 755 hp, I highly doubt it will sell for less than a fully loaded outgoing C7 ZR-1.
12-24-2018, 11:24 AM
#1676
Melting Slicks
Apparently he does not understand or wish to believe GM is in business to make a volume car and not to compete head on with a "supercar." He also does not understand the marketing position issue said best in my recent post: "Folks selling Rolex watches don't sell Timex and folks selling Timex don't also sell Rolex!"
12-24-2018, 12:23 PM
#1678
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FUN STORY RE VISITING ONE NEAR HILTON HEAD!
Was in Hilton Head for New Year with friends and the wife had a Porsche Cayenne at the time. Not super happy with the Porsche dealer where I was bringing her car for expensive ($250) oil changes and all they did was change oil and check off as OK a bunch of stuff not really needed. I checked and the Porsche dealership just outside Hilton Head had an oil change special. Made an appointment for 10 AM.
Wife and friends wanted to visit something so I brought the car in early! Boy that was a problem as they have everything planned to be ready when you get there. They were jumping all over themselves to be sure I was happy waiting! Mentioned they had a Porsche Panorama GTS in being fitted with "every option" offered including those the dealer installs. As I recall it had a price near $200,000! I remember saying that is impossible and the salesman laughed and said - it adds up! (For those who mention Corvette tax, look at any Porsche option, it's over 5 times a Vette price.) It even had the off-road package that has electric links on the sway bars that can release to you get more wheel travel it going over rocky areas!
I recall asking the young lady at the desk in the waiting area who was buying the car? She said a fellow with a Russian accent bought it for his wife. He just said, "put every option on it available!" She said he had just bought two adjacent ocean front homes in Hilton head, was tearing them down and building one with Gold plated fixtures! Then she said, his wife had a necklace with a diamond as big as a golf ball! I recall thinking Russian oligarch, could also be someone you don't want to mess with.
Bottom Line: He would not shop at a Chevy Dealer!
Last edited by JerryU; 12-24-2018 at 12:29 PM.
12-24-2018, 12:27 PM
#1679
Race Director
Agreed. But you are talking base model pricing.
Remind me the MSRP of a fully loaded C7 ZR-1?
If the new C8 Mid Engine hits a homerun on both design and performance that exceeds 755 hp, hit 0-60 in 2.X and runs down Ferrari and Lamborghinis for 1/2 to 1/3rd the price, why not?
The Acura NSX is selling for $160k. It may be selling slowly, but it is selling.
The new C8 ME should blow the Acura out by a landslide in performance. And if the new C8 high performance type model is over 755 hp, I highly doubt it will sell for less than a fully loaded outgoing C7 ZR-1.
Remind me the MSRP of a fully loaded C7 ZR-1?
If the new C8 Mid Engine hits a homerun on both design and performance that exceeds 755 hp, hit 0-60 in 2.X and runs down Ferrari and Lamborghinis for 1/2 to 1/3rd the price, why not?
The Acura NSX is selling for $160k. It may be selling slowly, but it is selling.
The new C8 ME should blow the Acura out by a landslide in performance. And if the new C8 high performance type model is over 755 hp, I highly doubt it will sell for less than a fully loaded outgoing C7 ZR-1.
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Last edited by jimmyb; 12-24-2018 at 12:29 PM.
12-24-2018, 12:37 PM
#1680
Race Director
Why do you think they will introduce the base model before the high performance model? There is no problem starting with the $160K model when the FE model is available to cover the market from $60-150K.
Just depends on what Corvette's goal is with the ME. Simply make another run of the mill car in base form as they have for decades, or build the best possible to beat Porsche and conquer the world market?
Obviously, lots of folks here would be happy with the run of the mill ME first, but most Corvette buyers have never been interested in ME per se which is why Corvette has never built one. Believe anything you want because it doesn't matter to me, but I am not interested in a run of the mill, glorified Fiero with a V8.
Just depends on what Corvette's goal is with the ME. Simply make another run of the mill car in base form as they have for decades, or build the best possible to beat Porsche and conquer the world market?
Obviously, lots of folks here would be happy with the run of the mill ME first, but most Corvette buyers have never been interested in ME per se which is why Corvette has never built one. Believe anything you want because it doesn't matter to me, but I am not interested in a run of the mill, glorified Fiero with a V8.
And please, can you give the "glorified Fiero" thing a rest. It's just about the MOST ignorant thing you can say. You realize that anyone 30 years old and younger doesn't even know what a Fiero IS, right?
Last edited by jimmyb; 12-24-2018 at 12:41 PM.