$169,900, final price confirmed
10-31-2018, 02:41 AM
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16 Vettes and counting…..
10-31-2018, 04:56 AM
#82
Drifting
Price makes sense for the 1000hp E-Ray.
C8 base will weigh in around $60K - $65K, likely towards the low side. Remember that the last ME car from GM sold for less than the Corvette of that time.
C8 base will weigh in around $60K - $65K, likely towards the low side. Remember that the last ME car from GM sold for less than the Corvette of that time.
10-31-2018, 06:46 AM
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The $170K range makes sense. I never thought the C8 was going to be a under $100K mid engine supercar. It was designed from the ground up as a direct competitor to the sub $200K market.
I am actually wondering if Chevrolet will even market it under the Corvette moniker. I don't think so. I believe it's an entirely NEW model of car. The current C7 design will continue for the next couple of years and the mid engine will carve it's own market niche.
I am actually wondering if Chevrolet will even market it under the Corvette moniker. I don't think so. I believe it's an entirely NEW model of car. The current C7 design will continue for the next couple of years and the mid engine will carve it's own market niche.
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10-31-2018, 06:56 AM
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I won’t make an ad hominem argument, but I will stick with logic. Bowling Green is not in the business of building Lambos. The whole business model is predicated on the statement made by people who actually build these cars “ If you can afford the current C7, you can afford the C8”.
The current C7 ZR1 can be optioned to $140K, but that is a halo car. A low volume special, and not representative of the C7 bought by the majority of customers. GM did not spend many millions of dollars, and all that development of the next generation Corvette, to produce a Corvette that will sell in a tiny fraction of C7 production numbers. No, The Bowling Green plant needs a volume of > 30k / year to be worth selling the C8.
Logic, and statements of the engineers and marketing people who actually KNOW dictate a starting price of around $70k.
Chill out, Frances...
The current C7 ZR1 can be optioned to $140K, but that is a halo car. A low volume special, and not representative of the C7 bought by the majority of customers. GM did not spend many millions of dollars, and all that development of the next generation Corvette, to produce a Corvette that will sell in a tiny fraction of C7 production numbers. No, The Bowling Green plant needs a volume of > 30k / year to be worth selling the C8.
Logic, and statements of the engineers and marketing people who actually KNOW dictate a starting price of around $70k.
Chill out, Frances...
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10-31-2018, 07:20 AM
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The $170K range makes sense. I never thought the C8 was going to be a under $100K mid engine supercar. It was designed from the ground up as a direct competitor to the sub $200K market.
I am actually wondering if Chevrolet will even market it under the Corvette moniker. I don't think so. I believe it's an entirely NEW model of car. The current C7 design will continue for the next couple of years and the mid engine will carve it's own market niche.
I am actually wondering if Chevrolet will even market it under the Corvette moniker. I don't think so. I believe it's an entirely NEW model of car. The current C7 design will continue for the next couple of years and the mid engine will carve it's own market niche.
Why would GM, who has one of the most desirable brands in the world of sports cars, feel the need to push into the exotic car market? What does GM gain? Respect?
GM has a devout market of buyers that continually upgrade from one generation to the next like iPhone consumers. They also sell more Corvettes per year than the next 3 competitors combined.
Do they need to move upmarket in order to be taken seriously? So that other manufacturers and the ignorant masses will say nice things about how the car feels like a true super car?
Why would this even matter to GM? GM looks at profitability, the Corvette is taken seriously by any sports car manufacturer and they all look at the Corvette as a kind of benchmark as to what is possible when costs are factored in to the formula of making great sports cars. Right now the Mid Engine market is very deep in the "around $200k" range and many of the cars in that range have a pedigree that GM can't hope to approach. In fact we have seen haw improperly priced cars in that range fare even if they are lower cost. The Acura NSX is a commercial flop, the BMW i8 is also an exceptionally weak seller, the Dodge Viper also got sent packing due to price. The Corvette is not an exotic, thats the freaking point. Trying to push for a more exotic Corvette is just asinine, it rests comfortably as one of the more profitable brands within GM at a price point that is literally uncontested.
I am holding out hope that GM is not as dumb as the few people out there hoping for something that would alienate the vast majority of their base. Expecting the Corvette to change their entire philosophy for no other reason than to appease a few out of touch people would be suicide. Even if the car sold to a world market, $169,000 would still make it less profitable than if they did the same and sold it for less than half of that. Like many people have said, at that price I would defect to Porsche for a nice 911 GTS or even a used McLaren 650S for the sole reason that with those marques I would receive far better service than at a Chevy dealership. Which leads me to the last question, how would you feel about bringing you $170k super car to a local Chevy dealer for maintenance? GM isn't pumping out premium service centers that we know about, and if they intended to sell a car at this price they would already be setting up an infrastructure that catered to the high level of consumer expectations. Simply put, at that price people will demand a higher level of service, which GM currently has no capacity for unless they brand this new car a Cadillac.
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10-31-2018, 07:21 AM
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10-31-2018, 07:28 AM
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10-31-2018, 07:39 AM
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I Agree 100%
This is 100% correct, Corvette Enthusiasts will die off or move elsewhere and the handful of Youtubers won’t be able to support the production cost and that will be the end of Corvette
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10-31-2018, 07:40 AM
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I’ll play devil’s advocate. Perhaps Zerv02 does have inside info. Perhaps his source was referring to the absolute top of the line ZR1 type version which usually comes several years into the lifecycle of the body style. I believe a $169K pricetag for a ZR1 version is certainly possible. But Zerv02 needs to clarify which version he’s referring to; base model or ZR-1 verison.
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10-31-2018, 07:55 AM
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I’ll play devil’s advocate. Perhaps Zerv02 does have inside info. Perhaps his source was referring to the absolute top of the line ZR1 type version which usually comes several years into the lifecycle of the body style. I believe a $169K pricetag for a ZR1 version is certainly possible. But Zerv02 needs to clarify which version he’s referring to; base model or ZR-1 verison.
And his thread is STILL a TROLLING of mythic proportions.
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10-31-2018, 07:59 AM
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Zerv - What does this price represent? I think it's pretty much agreed there will be 3+ variants of this car over the next few years. Is this the price of a fully-optioned, hi hp variant, or are you saying this is the base price for the entry-level version (which is just shy of being an impossibility). Point being, you threw out a single number as "the" price. You can't even do that with the current generation. Prices range from $60k - $130k.
What does $169,900 buy?
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10-31-2018, 08:05 AM
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$169K for the entry level model, wont happen, unless the ME is a one off, like the Ford GT. Which, looking at these pictures, it wont be. Where are the flying buttresses? All jokes aside. Looking at the pre-production MEs running around, thats not even close to looking like a $169K car. The rear wing looks like an erector set made of popsicle sticks. The side vents are assumed to be for engine cooling. GM knows this problem, after dealing with the Z06 engine overheating problems. But, for me, I don't see any serious "downforce" design being used, here. The MFGRs getting cars into the "under 7 minute" times, on the ring, are using extensive aero.
That little thumbnail spoiler, out back, on the ME cruising around the ring, is near useless, as far as downforce is concerned. Take a look at the heavy hitters, in the downforce game. Lamborghini, really has this down with their ALA. Hence how the Huracan, and now the Aventador SVJ are into the 6 second lap times, around the ring. Both cars, have active torque vectoring, and AWD. The Porsche 911 GT3RS 991.2, only manages a 7:12. The 911 GT2RS, at more than twice the price, has a lot more active aero, with its huge front fender vents. The McLaren 720S, which annihilates a ZR1, in straight line performance, has rather sophisticated active aero, and only manages a 7:14. Again, $169K would be a dud, considering the base GT3 starts at $144K. Hell, the Huracan base car, is $199K. If Im going to spend $170K for a Corvette, I would much rather have a Huracan, for $20K more. I could make up the $20K in a down payment, and be at the same price point. It just doesn't make sense.
More on the Lamborghini ALA. If you dont know anything about ALA, and are a car geek, like I am, this video will amaze you.
https://youtu.be/Ur4NLTqqWEw
That little thumbnail spoiler, out back, on the ME cruising around the ring, is near useless, as far as downforce is concerned. Take a look at the heavy hitters, in the downforce game. Lamborghini, really has this down with their ALA. Hence how the Huracan, and now the Aventador SVJ are into the 6 second lap times, around the ring. Both cars, have active torque vectoring, and AWD. The Porsche 911 GT3RS 991.2, only manages a 7:12. The 911 GT2RS, at more than twice the price, has a lot more active aero, with its huge front fender vents. The McLaren 720S, which annihilates a ZR1, in straight line performance, has rather sophisticated active aero, and only manages a 7:14. Again, $169K would be a dud, considering the base GT3 starts at $144K. Hell, the Huracan base car, is $199K. If Im going to spend $170K for a Corvette, I would much rather have a Huracan, for $20K more. I could make up the $20K in a down payment, and be at the same price point. It just doesn't make sense.
More on the Lamborghini ALA. If you dont know anything about ALA, and are a car geek, like I am, this video will amaze you.
https://youtu.be/Ur4NLTqqWEw
