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View Poll Results: What do you think the starting price of a base C8 will be?
$55,000-$60,000
5.12%
$60,000-$65,000
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$65,000-$70,000
29.15%
$70,000-$75,000
12.37%
$75,000-$80,000
9.54%
$80,000-$85,000
6.36%
$85,000-$90,000
3.53%
$90,000-$95,000
3.00%
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:57 PM
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Are we assuming the C8 will be a ME car?
It might not. The C8 could be another FE Car, and
a different model (Zora) may be a ME car.

Two different price points and market.

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Originally Posted by Azferrari View Post
Are we assuming the C8 will be a ME car?
It might not. The C8 could be another FE Car, and
a different model (Zora) may be a ME car.

Two different price points and market.
That ship seems to have sailed....
There’s a 10 second video that shows the new logo and new corvette script....along with a «by Chevrolet «
One Corvette only for the debut...after ,who knows ...
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:56 PM
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Current starting price is $55,900.... no way it's going to be 10% higher. It will be under $60k. Every piece of information we have continues to focus on that Corvette will continue to offer value. I don't know why everyone thinks they're going away from that....
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:33 PM
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I think the 2020 Vette will still be FE. I also think the C7 will be refreshed before it goes away. Time will tell.
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Originally Posted by Azferrari View Post
I think the 2020 Vette will still be FE. I also think the C7 will be refreshed before it goes away. Time will tell.
Sorry man but all of the clues point to the end of the C7 and its FE platform. One generation replaces the previous, not overlaps it, and is has become increasingly clear from the spy shots and a little leaked info that the C8 I will be ME. You may be correct about the 2020 still being a C7, but if that is the case, I suspect it would be another one of those abbreviated model years and the 2021 C8 ME would replace it by the spring of 2020.

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Originally Posted by Azferrari View Post
I think the 2020 Vette will still be FE. I also think the C7 will be refreshed before it goes away. Time will tell.

Hope so, I tend not to buy first years, but a toss up with the C8, not getting any younger.
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Old 02-11-2019, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Red67John View Post
Sorry man but all of the clues point to the end of the C7 and its FE platform. One generation replaces the previous, not overlaps it, and is has become increasingly clear from the spy shots and a little leaked info that the C8 I will be ME. You may be correct about the 2020 still being a C7, but if that is the case, I suspect it would be another one of those abbreviated model years and the 2021 C8 ME would replace it by the spring of 2020.
Sorry man, but clues aren't facts. The facts say the C7 continues until at least MY 2020, possibly 2021. The panel supplier's building expansion legal documents, the leaked engine production forecast both state the C7 continues. Then, just when we thought those documents are dated and perhaps GM changed their plans, we get the latest fact, GM announces the C7 "Final Edition"....in Europe only.
I know its difficult to accept change, but the "we've always done it that way" crowd will have to accept two platforms for MY 2020. The only way we have just one platform is if there is a one year delay manufacturing the ME car.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:46 AM
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I know its difficult to accept change, but the "we've always done it that way" crowd will have to accept two platforms for MY 2020. The only way we have just one platform is if there is a one year delay manufacturing the ME car.
That makes literally no sense, The "we've always done it that way" crowd is the one hoping the FE will continue. Beyond some sort of transition period where C7 orders are wrapping up while C8 orders are starting to be produced, or maybe some very unique case where they keep the FE Z06/ZR1 going while they sort out the performance version of the ME, there isn't going to be any significant overlap. The FE is going to be effectively DOA when the ME hits.

What dealer is going to order a previous gen body gambling on them selling it anywhere near MSRP when the comparable new ones are sitting on the floor next to it?
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There is a small and vocal crowd here, who seem to believe that a bargain basement warmed-over C7.5 would serve the mass market, and the ME would be a limited production, over $100K "halo car." I do not believe that would be a wise financial decision and is fraught with risk that could endanger Corvette's future. I believe the far more prudent strategy is the tried and true approach of offering a single platform with a broad range of features and levels of performance across a broad price spectrum.

Mass production and high performance at lower cost than the competition is the Corvette "secret sauce." A two-platform, 2-seater sports car approach compromises the mass production strategy as well as economy of scale in a market where there is already limited sports car demand, and I just don't believe there will be sufficient demand for a warmed-over C7. One platform has majority parts commonality, two platforms will not. Parts supplied in lower volume cost a lot more, which would be the case when trying to produce 2 platforms

There certainly won't be high demand for an over $100K 2-seater, because there are only a small number of folks who will spend that kind of money on a toy car. Only approx 2K ZR1s have sold/been ordered in the year since intro. I don't think the Corvette community would be happy with a two-platform scenario, because low volume production would drive the cost of the high-end ME way up without a low-cost base model to support it, and it would have to be de-contented to stay in the ZR1 price range.

Add the above together, and you've probably ruined the "secret sauce."

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I agree with your "secret sauce" comments; to have a ME base price of $100K would effectively kill the car. Too many other 'toy car' options at that price point for those who have unlimited funds and too expensive for those who don't. It needs to retain the sweet spot that has been its' tradition for years. Have an affordable base and add the performance versions for the additional $.

For myself, the interior room/luggage space will be factors. My C7 is tight enough for me as is, and I use the luggage space on trips. Downsizing either (or both) of these will deter me from getting one. From various comments I've read it seems I'm not alone in this thinking.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:26 PM
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I think 403 people are dreaming... no way the ME starts under $70k, imo...
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Or alternatively, a much smaller number are delusional in thinking it's going to start above $100K. I don't know whether they can squeeze under $70K to start or not, but that's much closer to the likely reality than $100K.

For whatever reasons, there's a persistent urban myth that there is something inherently more expensive about building mid-engine cars. That's only true if you're essentially hand-building a few of them a year, a process that makes exotic FE cars equally expensive. Folks look at Lambos, McLarens, and Ferraris and bizarrely conclude that all high-performance ME cars just have to be very expensive.

If Porsche can build an ME car (Cayman/Boxster) starting near $70K, GM most certainly can and have it outperform the comparably priced Porsche by a wide-margin. They've been doing it for decades now. That product may not be ultra luxurious, but it should be a great performer.

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Old 02-13-2019, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh View Post
Or alternatively, a much smaller number are delusional in thinking it's going to start above $100K. I don't know whether they can squeeze under $70K to start or not, but that's much closer to the likely reality than $100K.

For whatever reasons, there's a persistent urban myth that there is something inherently more expensive about building mid-engine cars. That's only true if you're essentially hand-building a few of them a year, a process that makes exotic FE cars equally expensive. Folks look at Lambos, McLarens, and Ferraris and bizarrely conclude that all high-performance ME cars just have to be very expensive.

If Porsche can build an ME car (Cayman/Boxster) starting near $70K, GM most certainly can and have it outperform the comparably priced Porsche by a wide-margin. They've been doing it for decades now. That product may not be ultra luxurious, but it should be a great performer.
Yep, agree 100%

Honestly though, considering only the typical model over model price increases of including before “optional” features and safety items, I can see low 70’s as a starting base, high 60’s if GM pushes the envelope of quality for some things the wrong direction (which they’ve absolutely done before, but which, I cannot see them doing this time, going back the other way from the C7, but...stranger things have happened).

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There is a small and vocal crowd here, who seem to believe that a bargain basement warmed-over C7.5 would serve the mass market, and the ME would be a limited production, over $100K "halo car." I do not believe that would be a wise financial decision and is fraught with risk that could endanger Corvette's future.
I still think the only way the FE platform remains is if they toss a turbo-4 or 6 in it, give it a basic Cruze-ish interior, and go play in the sub-$30k crowd with Miatas and BRZs. And I don;t really see that happening, but it could be a fun project.
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I still think the only way the FE platform remains is if they toss a turbo-4 or 6 in it, give it a basic Cruze-ish interior, and go play in the sub-$30k crowd with Miatas and BRZs. And I don;t really see that happening, but it could be a fun project.
+1

I definitely see a market for Miata/124 competition, a’la Pontiac Solstice (the one car they should have moved from Pontiac to Chevrolet, esp in GXP form), but that is definitely not a Corvette...
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Old 02-14-2019, 04:41 PM
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The price of the car is going to be what it is rather it be 60K or 600K! All the banter about price gets old. Nobody knows on this forum from what I can tell. Let’s just relax and see what happens!
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Stopped reading after the 3rd page but if any sane person thinks the C8 is going to start at over 70k, you're crazy or just really don't know vettes at all.
The c8 is the next generation of the corvette, will be a front engine 2 door, and have a starting price around 60k. Im thinking 59-63k.
No way is GM going to come out with a mid engine for a base corvette, at least not in 2019.
Also, no way is GM going to jack up the price of their halo car from 57k, or whatever they start at now, to 70-80k+ and beyond! There would be so much anger it would be ridiculous. Fully loaded BASE model approaching 100k? Nope.
ME/Zora, Charge whatever ya think you can get.
Another thought I believe is that most people that buy vettes finance them. At starting prices over 70 or 80, you're pretty much guaranteeing a 1,000+ mo payment. That's a huge psychological barrier for some I bet.
Again these are just my opinions. I also believe, like mentioned previously, that a 100k base vette will be the last generation of it.
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Stopped reading after the 3rd page but if any sane person thinks the C8 is going to start at over 70k, you're crazy or just really don't know vettes at all.
The c8 is the next generation of the corvette, will be a front engine 2 door, and have a starting price around 60k. Im thinking 59-63k.
No way is GM going to come out with a mid engine for a base corvette, at least not in 2019.
Also, no way is GM going to jack up the price of their halo car from 57k, or whatever they start at now, to 70-80k+ and beyond! There would be so much anger it would be ridiculous. Fully loaded BASE model approaching 100k? Nope. D
I think the past & most current base market for Corvette's have aged (like me) to the point where its becoming more difficult to justify its cost. While our new generation of millennial's (GM's hopeful new market) appear to show little interest in high priced 2 seat sport cars that most can barely afford. And if they did it would be in the secondary market.. I think GM has a dilemma on their hands. The question... In the current marketplace, If the C8's MSRP is above a fragile base breaking point, can GM be happy with far fewer sales then previous models going forward? I think the answer is a resounding "NO"... Just my thoughts as well...

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