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Old 11-30-2018, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
At best it will look like the renders we have here, which are good but not must have. Mid engine cars handle very differently from FE because of physics. Manual transmissions are not worth it to auto makers. Cargo space is not a priority for ME cars. You seem to have a problem with logical thinking.
Yet Jeep just put a manual trans in a newly designed pickup truck. There is quite a bit more demand for sticks in sports cars than pickup trucks.
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Yet Jeep just put a manual trans in a newly designed pickup truck. There is quite a bit more demand for sticks in sports cars than pickup trucks.
Since DCTs shift much faster than a stick, the rationale for a stick in a sports car has collapsed. Even with the lousy 8 speed auto in the C7, manuals are only 20%.
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When BMW announced no manual for the current M5 I was convinced that manual transmissions are going the way of the Dodo bird.
Old 11-30-2018, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Since DCTs shift much faster than a stick, the rationale for a stick in a sports car has collapsed. Even with the lousy 8 speed auto in the C7, manuals are only 20%.
Shift speed does not matter for those who enjoy driving a manual. 20% is a large percentage.
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Originally Posted by NY09C6
Shift speed does not matter for those who enjoy driving a manual. 20% is a large percentage.
This exactly! The corvette for 99% of its owners is NOT a daily driver..... we drive them for the enjoyment of driving them.... and to me I think part of that enjoyment is shifting gears..... there is just something about it that connects you to the car in a way that an automatic .... even a paddle shift cannot. For the guy that buys the car to have more than 50% of its miles put on it at the track then yeah auto DCT is the way to go.... but for most corvette owners..they drive the car “for fun” and I think many people want at least the option to have a manual.

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Old 11-30-2018, 06:19 PM
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I hope you're wrong on one area... that stupid spoiler. I hope it was a place holder for an active rear spoiler that approximated the "up" position. Doubt it though...
I hope so too but also like you I doubt it, the only indicator being the cars tested on the street didn’t appear to have spoilers underneath the camo. At the very least though I have faith the design team did something with it to make it look less out of place than it does with the camo cars.
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Originally Posted by NY09C6
Shift speed does not matter for those who enjoy driving a manual. 20% is a large percentage.


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Car isn't even released and you already know exactly what it will look like, how it will handle, exactly what transmission options there will be and how much cargo room it has? One hell of a magic 8 ball you have there.
PCM has shot about 100 darts on this next vette,and has missed everywhere.

At this point it’s a safe bet to assume that the C8 is going to be the complete opposite of what PCM has stated.
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So after reading this thread up to this point I had a thought. If GM is worried about the number of ME cars it can sell, why not simultaneously release a Corvette and a Cadillac version. Make the Cadillac version more expensive because of a better interior then you could get stuffy Cadillac buyers because they can say it's better than the Corvette (cost more, Cadillac name, better interior) and still get Corvette buyers because it's a Corvette (maybe faster because it's lighter than the Cadillac). This could explain why we seem to see two versions and why it's taking so long to reveal.
Go ahead and tell me why I can't be right
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Originally Posted by NY09C6
Shift speed does not matter for those who enjoy driving a manual. 20% is a large percentage.
totally agree but we are a dying breed.
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Originally Posted by pietro c7


PCM has shot about 100 darts on this next vette,and has missed everywhere.

At this point it’s a safe bet to assume that the C8 is going to be the complete opposite of what PCM has stated.
I am predicting it will beat the Porsche 911 Turbo S. You are predicting it will beat the Fiero, right?
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Originally Posted by LawrenceFromTorrance
So after reading this thread up to this point I had a thought. If GM is worried about the number of ME cars it can sell, why not simultaneously release a Corvette and a Cadillac version. Make the Cadillac version more expensive because of a better interior then you could get stuffy Cadillac buyers because they can say it's better than the Corvette (cost more, Cadillac name, better interior) and still get Corvette buyers because it's a Corvette (maybe faster because it's lighter than the Cadillac). This could explain why we seem to see two versions and why it's taking so long to reveal.
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Good points. But Zora will be very high performance while the Caddy will be built for comfort, not for speed.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
totally agree but we are a dying breed.
BMW recently promised manual trans M cars for at least another 10 years. The M4 is a nice car that I would easily switch to if GM only offers a auto.
Old 12-01-2018, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
Not for me. The ME is interesting, but hardly compelling given the styling and tricky handling, not to mention no manual or cargo space.
I would like to see a refreshed C7 Grand Sport with the Blackwing and 10 speed auto or 7 speed manual, plus heated steering wheel, blind spot monitor, etc. All for under $70K.
Also, I would like to see a Corvette SUV similar to the Lambo Urus. Am I dreaming?

NO.....you're just an idiot.


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