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Old 12-03-2018, 03:13 AM
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I was just thinking of back to when we saw the new ME 2020 Corvette Zora Stingray testing with other cars. One of them was a Porsche 911 Turbo S, a $190K car. Now comes time to apply my theory: Since my theory relies that the C8 is going to be the actual successor to the C7, and will be FE, that would allow people to get into a new Corvette for similar to what they pay now. The ME Zora is going to be much fancier than the C8, higher performance and more advanced which would mean it commands a higher price. Also, the engine we hear is definitely muffled sounding. Although it's a V8, it may be twin turbo. What if the 2020 Zora Stingray starts at about $80K, twin turbo V8, DCT as standard, and stuff like that. The C8 FE would be about $58K. Think about it: we've seen and heard many of the new ME cars testing. Not once have we heard manual shifts. They've always been quick, crisp DCT shifts. I think it's time to accept the fact that the ME car may be DCT only. The C8 would continue on in traditional Corvette fashion, as the successor to the C7. N/A (base model), manual and automatic available, etc. The Corvette purists will be able to buy the Corvette they're used to. Those who want higher performance, something totally unique, a first for the brand, etc etc would have the ME Zora to buy. Comment down below if you have any questions about my theory.
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I can hear Tadge now, " If you can afford a fully loaded C7, then you can afford a bare bones no optioned C8"....
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I can hear Tadge now, " If you can afford a fully loaded C7, then you can afford a bare bones no optioned C8"....
Then that would be about $80K.
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info
Then that would be about $80K.
Right, but what I'm saying is that would almost certainly put a base model fully loaded at nearly 100k.

That's a lot for only the base model of a car.
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Right, but what I'm saying is that would almost certainly put a base model fully loaded at nearly 100k.

That's a lot for only the base model of a car.
But if its fully loaded, and one will definitely push $100K, look at what you're getting for the price. Even better than what you're getting with the C7 for that price, which is already a huge value for the money.
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Old 12-03-2018, 02:35 PM
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Right, but what I'm saying is that would almost certainly put a base model fully loaded at nearly 100k.

That's a lot for only the base model of a car.
I would suggest that those who think that a fully loaded base model C8 is unreasonable price point that you go on the Porsche 2020 911 configuration Web site.

I am kinda getting tired of waiting for the C8 and have considered going with the 2020 911.

I started with the base 911 and with what I would consider a option level comparable to a 3lt with Z07 package on a C7 Corvette the 911 with comparable options was north of $140k with 430 Hp.

If the C8 has 500 plus Hp and a DCT with 3lt trim and Z07 type performance package at 100k that still a great deal compared to the 911.

I hear all those who want 500 plus HP and DCT and want that for 65k and I just don't understand how they think GM can build a quality product and offer world class performance and still make a profit at 65k.

I much rather see a base price of 80 k plus options and be able to say the Corvette is an exceptional car without having to add * that says for the money.

Heck GM sell hundreds of thousand of pick up trucks every year.

Price out a High Country with the 6.2 liter Silverado and it's close to 70k


But those on the CF want the C8 to be the halo GM car which Corvette has been for decades and have world class feature and performance to compete with Porsche / Audi / MB and want all that for 65k.

Never going to happen. If we get a C8 at 65k it will be a highly compromised car.

I much rather pay 100k for a well optioned C8 and not have all the compromises.

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Old 12-03-2018, 02:37 PM
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I would suggest that those who think that a fully loaded base model C8 is unreasonable price point that you go on the Porsche 2020 911 configuration Web site.

I am kinda getting tired of waiting for the C8 and have considered going with the 2020 911.

I started with the base 911 and with what I would consider a option level comparable to a 3lt with Z07 package on a C7 Corvette the 911 with comparable options was north of $140k with 430 Hp.

If the C8 has 500 plus Hp and a DCT with 3lt trim and Z07 type performance package at 100k that still a great deal compared to the 911.

I hear all those who want 500 plus HP and DCT and want that for 65k and I just don't understand how they think GM can build a quality product and offer world class performance and still make a profit at 65k.

I much rather see a base price of 80 k plus options and be able to say the Corvette is an exceptional car without having to add * that says for the money.

Heck GM sell hundreds of thousand of pick up trucks every year.

Price out a High Country with the 6.2 liter Silverado and it's close to 70k


But those on the CF want the C8 to be the halo GM car which Corvette has been for decades and have world class feature and performance to compete with Porsche / Audi / MB and want all that for 65k.

Never going to happen. If we get a C8 at 65k it will be a highly compromised car.

I much rather pay 100k for a well optioned C8 and not have all the compromises.
Why would you want a boring 6 cylinder Porsche?
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I can hear Tadge now, " If you can afford a fully loaded C7, then you can afford a bare bones no optioned C8"....
That is the best post I have seen on this Forum. LMFAO.
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Originally Posted by ssidekickbp View Post
I can hear Tadge now, " If you can afford a fully loaded C7, then you can afford a bare bones no optioned C8"....
Laughed out loud at that one.
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info View Post
Why would you want a boring 6 cylinder Porsche?
While I am a life long Corvette enthusiasts I do not consider the 911 to be boring.

I already have a 2016 Callaway SC757 and GM does not currently sell a Corvette that offer more performance that my Callaway 757hp & 777 TQ.

I guess I had my heart set on a January reveal and being able to take delivery in fall of 2019 on the C8.

Those dates now seem unlikely and life is short so next on my list was a 911s.

I also have a 2015 458 so I think adding a 911s would be a car I would be happy to add to my garage.

now if GM does the revel and offers a base model with a DCT and DOHC engine that I can take delivery of in 2019 that is what I will order.

I have had a deposit in since Jan of 2016 for the C8 so it's almost 3 year of antisipation and I think many of us on CF are about feed up with the lack of information from GM.

Everybody who are car guys and gals know that this car is coming. So it's not like some big suprise THAT GM has the C8 and no one anticipates it coming.

I guess I am one of those that hopes that the Front Mid Vette lives on as an entry level Corvette and that the C8 goes upscale and competes with the best in the world from both a performance and quality and technology stand point.

That won't happen if the base price is 65k and it will be tough to make happen with a base of 80k.

I fully expect a well optioned base C8 will be in the mid 80s.

October of 2013 I took delivery of a well optioned z51 3lt at the museum and it was 74k .

Just the DCT alone has to add 5k too the price and then normal model price increase of 5k and there we are a well optioned base C8 in the mid 80s.

I am a car guy so although I love Corvettes and currently have number 11 in my garage I don't think those that discount Porsche for a different approach are open minded as that could be.

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Old 12-03-2018, 03:10 PM
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PDK is $3,210 option on a 911. $5K is way too much of a guess for the DCT on a C8
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But if its fully loaded, and one will definitely push $100K, look at what you're getting for the price. Even better than what you're getting with the C7 for that price, which is already a huge value for the money.
As a Z51 3LT owner who ordered their car, I'm fully aware of what you get for the price with all the bells & whistles. I'm simply just stating it will be 100k for a fully loaded base car if it starts at 80.

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As a Z51 3LT owner who ordered their car, I'm fully aware of what you get for the price with all the bells & whistles. I'm simply just stating it will be 100k for a fully loaded base car if it starts at 80.
I understunderstanyou are saying. But if my theory comes true and the ME car is a whole new model in addition to the FE car, then you would still be able to buy your fully loaded $80K car. It just wouldnt be the ME, it would be the C8, the successor to the C7.
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Option for option the c8 will just cost five grand more than the c7 similiar versions...

the current car starts at 56 grand..

add in the cost of any current options that become standard.

the c8 will not start at 80 but just like the current c7 can be optioned past it.

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Option for option the c8 will just cost five grand more than the c7 similiar versions...

the current car starts at 56 grand..

add in the cost of any current options that become standard.

the c8 will not start at 80 but just like the current c7 can be optioned past it.

I never said the C8 will start at $80K. I said it will start a few grand higher than what the C7 sells for, and be the FE next gen successor to the C7. The ME car is the 2020 Corvette Zora Stingray, and will start at around $80K. You must not have read.
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info View Post
I never said the C8 will start at $80K. I said it will start a few grand higher than what the C7 sells for, and be the FE next gen successor to the C7. The ME car is the 2020 Corvette Zora Stingray, and will start at around $80K. You must not have read.
I wish people would stop calling it a Corvette Zora! There is NO proof what the name will be. Could be the Corvette Sumckatelle for all we know.

Yes, they may have copyrighted the word “Zora” but that could be to protect it so no one else would use it. I would prefer “Duntov”. Duntov has a history going back to the special Duntov performance parts for the early SBC and the 1980 Duntov Turbocharged Corvette.

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I wish people would stop calling it a Corvette Zora! There is NO proof what the name will be. Could be the Corvette Sumckatelle for all we know.
Well, if we are putting in our wishes then I wish people would stop calling it the C8 Corvette. Maybe meet in the middle and just call it the Corvette ME? That's all we know really. It's a Corvette and its Rear Mid Engine.
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Well, if we are putting in our wishes then I wish people would stop calling it the C8 Corvette. Maybe meet in the middle and just call it the Corvette ME? That's all we know really. It's a Corvette and its Rear Mid Engine.
C8 is not a name, just a generation marker. These markers did not come around until the fifth gen.
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C8 is not a name, just a generation marker. These markers did not come around until the fifth gen.
I give up on you.
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