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Old 12-05-2018, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by norge1956

Looks like a glass for the engine compartment...

http://pdfaiw.uspto.gov/.aiw?PageNum...Bengine%252522

not necessarily. Still need glass to see thru the vertical rear window inside. I doubt we will be able to see the engine. It may be like the 720

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Old 12-05-2018, 08:01 PM
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Judging by the pics, I think the glass window will be fixed and you can see through to the engine. You can open the whole rear hatch, to actually get to the engine. And also judging by the rear overhang, when you open the hatch there may be an additional storage area behind the engine at the rear of the car, in addition to the front trunk.
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info
Judging by the pics, I think the glass window will be fixed and you can see through to the engine. You can open the whole rear hatch, to actually get to the engine. And also judging by the rear overhang, when you open the hatch there may be an additional storage area behind the engine at the rear of the car, in addition to the front trunk.
This is what I'm talking about. The first line would be where the cabin ends and the engine bay begins. The line at the rear of the car indicates where the engine bay could end ande a storage area

could begin.
Old 12-05-2018, 08:29 PM
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If the rear window is as depicted, then what about the retractable hardtop version of the mid engine car? Where does that large piece of glass go when the top is folded into the rear storage compartment just behind the passenger compartment?

How do the built in vents operate when the top is down?
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
If the rear window is as depicted, then what about the retractable hardtop version of the mid engine car? Where does that large piece of glass go when the top is folded into the rear storage compartment just behind the passenger compartment?

How do the built in vents operate when the top is down?
its a different design. You can see a bit of it disguised in the ring images of the vert. I’m sure it will use the same principles but look a bit different
Old 12-05-2018, 09:28 PM
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The last photo posted is of a convertible on the Ring. The blacked out “glass” is filler for the buttressed area where the top will fold and stow away. You can see a central vent at the bottom of the blacked out panel where the engine bay will release heat. Look at a McLaren 675LT Spider for reference.
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One thing I have wondered about the hatch. Could it be a hatch within a hatch? You have the big hatch for engine maintenance and trunk access. That rear window has lots of seams/lines, could it open separately for basic engine service? Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info
This is what I'm talking about. The first line would be where the cabin ends and the engine bay begins. The line at the rear of the car indicates where the engine bay could end ande a storage area

could begin.
Originally Posted by Tom73
One thing I have wondered about the hatch. Could it be a hatch within a hatch? You have the big hatch for engine maintenance and trunk access. That rear window has lots of seams/lines, could it open separately for basic engine service? Just a thought.
My above posts that I have just quoted share what I think could be a possibility.
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info
This is what I'm talking about. The first line would be where the cabin ends and the engine bay begins. The line at the rear of the car indicates where the engine bay could end ande a storage area

could begin.
I look at it a bit differently. In the photo below, the Red line on the right would be approx for the passenger compartment bulkhead, same as in yours. The red line on the left is the centerline for the transaxle based on the center if the hub. Yellow is an approximation of the engine/transaxle assembly. That leaves blue as an estimation of trunk area. (As drawn bay a 3 year old with no drawing aptitude ). Lots of room above and behind the transaxle for storage.






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Originally Posted by Tom73

I look at it a bit differently. In the photo below, the Red line on the right would be approx for the passenger compartment bulkhead, same as in yours. The red line on the left is the centerline for the transaxle based on the center if the hub. Yellow is an approximation of the engine/transaxle assembly. That leaves blue as an estimation of trunk area. (As drawn bay a 3 year old with no drawing aptitude ). Lots of room above and behind the transaxle for storage.





Yeah, I just did a quick drawing as well. I think I left a little too much room for the engine bay and not enough for the potential cargo area. Yours drawing seems more accurate.
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Originally Posted by Tom73

I look at it a bit differently. In the photo below, the Red line on the right would be approx for the passenger compartment bulkhead, same as in yours. The red line on the left is the centerline for the transaxle based on the center if the hub. Yellow is an approximation of the engine/transaxle assembly. That leaves blue as an estimation of trunk area. (As drawn bay a 3 year old with no drawing aptitude ). Lots of room above and behind the transaxle for storage.





Dont the CAD leaks from zerv show the engine placement more rearward ,and perhaps lower?
(note the exhaust tips on zerv’s leaked CAD’s)

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Originally Posted by pietro c7


Dont the CAD leaks from zerv show the engine placement more rearward ,and perhaps lower?
(note the exhaust tips on zerv’s leaked CAD’s)

I dont see how it could be any more rearward or lower.
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Building on @Tom73 and mine's outline, I added the scoop as well as colored in the potential rear cargo area.
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All pointed out as a possibility back in Sept. 2018 here.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1597956321

As to the A-D markings on the upper right corner Fiero trunk picture it references how the outer sides of the trunk are shallow (C & D) with a center section width (A & B) that is much deeper. The shallow areas to accommodate the exhaust pipe routing out either side of the rear facia.



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Old 12-06-2018, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by moose.b3
Looks like round taillights are coming back

sure hope so.....if they do the c7 is going to depreciate at an even greater level than it already is.
Old 12-07-2018, 02:08 AM
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I have an idea, why not put the engine in the front where it belongs...
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Originally Posted by Latterlon
I can absolutely see the C8 having a visible engine under that glass AND some type of storage at the rear. The spy photo at the Ring shows the entire rear hatch opening, similar to a Ferrari F50. Maybe they’ve included a trunk to access similar to the old and new NSX, and the entire piece lifts to reveal all, while the storage would be sealed off from the engine bay, which vents through the special hatch. This along with behind the seat storage and a frunk would give the owner the best of all worlds.
Considering GM hasn’t made an engine aesthetically appealing in years let’s hope not. Now,if they wanted to dig into some GM heritage,I’m all for it.

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Old 12-07-2018, 11:52 AM
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I hope it's not a sea of plastic under that clear glass.
Old 12-07-2018, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
I hope it's not a sea of plastic under that clear glass.
You and me both. If they are going to showcase it, they better take a cue from Ferrari on doing so.
Old 12-07-2018, 01:19 PM
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Is there any reason to think that the black plastic cover over the engine is the shape of the actual glass? Seem like it would be easy to put the plastic cover there to hide the engine and a bunch of tape around it to hide the real shape of the glass. What if the below is the shape of the rear glass. Would be consistent with the B pillar and glass on the C4, C5, and C6.



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