Notices
C8 General Discussion The place to discuss the next generation of Corvette.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Mules in hibernation… plant closings… reveal delays…

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-09-2018, 05:44 PM
  #21  
Kevin Parent
Racer
 
Kevin Parent's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2016
Location: Rochester Hills, MI
Posts: 317
Received 27 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

I'm going with January for start of build.
Old 12-09-2018, 06:17 PM
  #22  
BMadden
Safety Car
 
BMadden's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 4,228
Received 1,836 Likes on 660 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Kevin Parent
I'm going with January for start of build.
Then you will be extremely disappointed.

Old 12-09-2018, 10:10 PM
  #23  
themonk
Team Owner
 
themonk's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary, AB. There's a reason why white was the only color offered on every year Corvette. Proud Canadian German Jamaican!
Posts: 97,155
Received 1,456 Likes on 799 Posts
St. Jude Donor '09, '12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17

Default

I'm really beginning to not GAFF about the C8 anymore. GM can't get their schit together, they want to keep the public in the dark (surprise surprise) and it's getting to be long in the tooth. If GM actually GAF about the people who love Corvettes they would've said/done something by now instead of keeping everybody in the dark.
Old 12-09-2018, 10:24 PM
  #24  
tcinla
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tcinla's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2016
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 2,275
Received 619 Likes on 357 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 638HP
Mules in hibernation coupled with BGA plant tour on indefinite hold is not a good sign. Marketing 101 suggests announcing/releasing product when market hype is near or at it's peak. I believe the C8 ME market hype is peaking.
interest ks lower now, as search trends indicate, than earlier this year:
.





Last edited by tcinla; 12-10-2018 at 12:44 PM.
The following users liked this post:
k wright (12-09-2018)
Old 12-09-2018, 10:34 PM
  #25  
trivette
Melting Slicks
 
trivette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: st paul minnesota
Posts: 2,244
Received 122 Likes on 87 Posts

Default

The lack of knowledge about or interest in Corvette forums mirrors the same levels of interest in Corvette racing. I find this to be especially evident among C7 owners as for many this is their first 'Vette and they don't have the owner history like those of us who have driven one since we were in our 20's. (I'll be 69 in Jan.) No offense to them, as they have purchased their 'dream car', but they look at it from a different perspective from those of us who have owned many generations of the marque.
Old 12-10-2018, 09:35 AM
  #26  
Foosh
Team Owner
 
Foosh's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Posts: 25,434
Received 16,668 Likes on 8,311 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tcinla
intrest ks lower now, as search trends indicate, than earlier this year:


Those charts really aren't relevant at this point. Interest will be off the high end of that scale after unveil and through the first year of sales, perhaps beyond. "Normal" people don't develop much interest in products that are yet to be revealed.

Last edited by Foosh; 12-10-2018 at 09:38 AM.
Old 12-10-2018, 10:14 AM
  #27  
ZishanM
Pro
 
ZishanM's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Posts: 688
Received 276 Likes on 120 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by themonk
I'm really beginning to not GAFF about the C8 anymore. GM can't get their schit together, they want to keep the public in the dark (surprise surprise) and it's getting to be long in the tooth. If GM actually GAF about the people who love Corvettes they would've said/done something by now instead of keeping everybody in the dark.
Really don't understand the frustration with these types of posts. I get all details are not known,but they have been giving out controlled leaks

- They leaked the whole car with camo on it
- They leaked a night video of the C8.R driving around

what exactly else should they provide given the car is not ready to be announced? Even with the C7 they didn't announce pricing till much later (was it April/May?)
Old 12-10-2018, 12:46 PM
  #28  
tcinla
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tcinla's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2016
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 2,275
Received 619 Likes on 357 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Foosh
Those charts really aren't relevant at this point. Interest will be off the high end of that scale after unveil and through the first year of sales, perhaps beyond. "Normal" people don't develop much interest in products that are yet to be revealed.
.
It is relevant to the degree that interest has been pursued by GM / Chevy and others with news releases, leaks, etc... It's an indication of how successful that strategy is.
Old 12-10-2018, 12:50 PM
  #29  
Foosh
Team Owner
 
Foosh's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Posts: 25,434
Received 16,668 Likes on 8,311 Posts

Default

I'm saying the interest level right now is not relevant to the ultimate success of the car in the market. I think GM is playing this very smart. Don't promise anything you can't deliver in timely fashion. Don't even talk about it. Just ask Elon Musk.

Last edited by Foosh; 12-10-2018 at 12:51 PM.
The following users liked this post:
elegant (12-10-2018)
Old 12-10-2018, 12:54 PM
  #30  
tcinla
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tcinla's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2016
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 2,275
Received 619 Likes on 357 Posts
Default

That is true. The reveal will likely see the trend chart climb up steeply. I suppose we can also conclude that the 'rumor' posts and lack of Official news from GM to the media has not generated high levels of 'buzz' like Elon is so adept at. If GM wants to keep it quiet and wow the world at the release, nothing wrong with that. The corvette community is chomping at the bit, though. The car biz is really old and set in it's patterns. Elon blew all of that 'accepted wisdom' out of the water. It might not hurt for GM to test float a simlar news release / Tweet / etc. Juuussssstttt to see what happens. The competitors already likely know what GM is going to put out so.... what would it hurt to do so?
.
For that matter, why don't we see any Corvette / commercials. Porche does fewer of them but they are still out there. They could even tout how it's, in A8 form, the most American car (sports or otherwise) buy content. They could use that right about now.... Matter of Fact, GM should just hire me. I'd take care of it for them.

Last edited by tcinla; 12-10-2018 at 01:02 PM.
Old 12-10-2018, 01:10 PM
  #31  
Foosh
Team Owner
 
Foosh's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Posts: 25,434
Received 16,668 Likes on 8,311 Posts

Default

And Elon came within a gnat's eyelash of crashing Tesla. He's still not out of the woods.
Old 12-10-2018, 01:25 PM
  #32  
z06inVB
Race Director
 
z06inVB's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2006
Location: Raleigh
Posts: 19,193
Likes: 0
Received 1,107 Likes on 521 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by elegant
Only one in two Corvette owners know there even are Corvette forums. And of those that know, only half of them are even on a forum even for a short while. And of those who visit a Corvette forum, most dot no choose to join. Of those who actually join a Corvette forum, they check it out, but then spend very little time on it; actually join a forum to learn how to dealt with a specific issue, e.g., how do I get to my C7’s battery or how do I change my cabin air filter.

I was at a large Corvette show this past June, and many did not have an inkling that a mid engine is coming, and even now, probably 80%, maybe 90% of Corvette owners who are planning to soon get another one, are sure they will have a chance at buying a FE C8.

Foosh is absolutely correct that what is occurring here is not representative of the Corvette world. Not even remotely.


So true. My friend owns a C6 z06. When I asked if he had the heads done he said why ? When I bought my C7 z51 when looking through the owners maint records I asked if he had the 500 mile oil change done. He had never heard of it.

So there is an entire world of Vette owners blissfully unaware of the things we all worry about.
Old 12-10-2018, 01:29 PM
  #33  
tcinla
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tcinla's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2016
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 2,275
Received 619 Likes on 357 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Foosh
And Elon came within a gnat's eyelash of crashing Tesla. He's still not out of the woods.
.
That's 1 way to perceive it. Another perspective could be that if it were anyone other than Elon, Tesla would have crashed... Who else in the 'accepted car biz' mold could have kept Tesla going this long?
.
Tesla seems to be ok on the Automobile front right now. It will need to grow the other business, ultimately, to stay in business I think. By the way, there isn't ONE GM product on this list:

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/08...chnica-charts/
.

Last edited by tcinla; 12-10-2018 at 01:35 PM.
Old 12-10-2018, 01:31 PM
  #34  
sstonebreaker
Le Mans Master
 
sstonebreaker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 5,775
Received 577 Likes on 366 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Roscoe Primrose
Of course you can. If GM had an internal date set for launch, and had to push it back, that's a delay. Whether or not they ever announced the original date to the public is irrelevant.
Schroedinger would disagree.
Old 12-10-2018, 01:36 PM
  #35  
tcinla
Melting Slicks
Support Corvetteforum!
 
tcinla's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2016
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 2,275
Received 619 Likes on 357 Posts
Default

Old 12-10-2018, 03:06 PM
  #36  
themonk
Team Owner
 
themonk's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary, AB. There's a reason why white was the only color offered on every year Corvette. Proud Canadian German Jamaican!
Posts: 97,155
Received 1,456 Likes on 799 Posts
St. Jude Donor '09, '12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17

Default

Originally Posted by ZishanM
Really don't understand the frustration with these types of posts. I get all details are not known,but they have been giving out controlled leaks

- They leaked the whole car with camo on it
- They leaked a night video of the C8.R driving around

what exactly else should they provide given the car is not ready to be announced? Even with the C7 they didn't announce pricing till much later (was it April/May?)
they didn't leak anything, photographers took pictures of it and made it public.

Tell me, is there going to be a front engine Corvette sold along side the ME? How much for the ME? When is the ME going to go on sale? We all know that GM brass follow C8 Gen, they are well aware of the hundreds of questions being asked by eager followers of the Corvette and this dullards can't even release info on the most basic of information that wouldn't hurt the release or give anything of importance away to the competition. Why can't they even say when the ME will debut? This to me sounds like a company who really isn't in touch with it's loyal customer base.

Last edited by themonk; 12-10-2018 at 03:11 PM.
The following users liked this post:
ojm (12-11-2018)
Old 12-11-2018, 01:26 PM
  #37  
ojm
Le Mans Master
 
ojm's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Location: here
Posts: 8,712
Received 202 Likes on 155 Posts
Default

GM works in riddles.

Get notified of new replies

To Mules in hibernation… plant closings… reveal delays…

Old 12-11-2018, 01:45 PM
  #38  
RapidC84B
Team Owner
 
RapidC84B's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2013
Posts: 20,210
Received 13,157 Likes on 5,987 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ojm
GM works in riddles.
4D Trumpian chess
Old 12-11-2018, 02:36 PM
  #39  
Foosh
Team Owner
 
Foosh's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Posts: 25,434
Received 16,668 Likes on 8,311 Posts

Default

Oh please . . . to me that implies utter chaos, which is certainly not the case here.
Old 12-14-2018, 05:05 PM
  #40  
Dave Hrejsa
Instructor
 
Dave Hrejsa's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2017
Location: Michigan
Posts: 128
Received 198 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Why would anyone say the Mules are in hibernation? If you live in metro Detroit you can see them just about every day. I saw one on Monday and Tuesday.
The following 2 users liked this post by Dave Hrejsa:
firstvettesoon (12-14-2018), RapidC84B (12-17-2018)


Quick Reply: Mules in hibernation… plant closings… reveal delays…



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:37 PM.