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Old 12-08-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
100% Flat plane all the way. Rumor says LT1 in first MY. Wonder if flat plane LT1?
I really hope not for reliability's sake. Ford's experience on the GT350 has been horrendous. They're prone to vibration and have a lot of undesirable characteristics.

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Old 12-08-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info
I think it's safe to assume the front and rear lights are the production version. And they look great!
The headlights look like some high quality HIDS or whatever the term is. Powerful white light.
Old 12-08-2018, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Ford's experience on the GT350 has been horrendous.
Ford had never done one before...it's not surprising they are having problems.
They're prone to vibration and have a lot of undesirable characteristics.
The 458 I drove didn't have undue vibration at all...seemed fine to me.
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Yes, and Ferrari engines are so easy and inexpensive to maintain. I don't believe GM has any much experience w/ V8 flat plane crank engines either.

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Old 12-08-2018, 05:25 PM
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Yes, and Ferrari engines are so easy and inexpensive to maintain. I don't believe GM has any much experience w/ V8 flat plane crank engines either.
Ferrari's come with 7 years of free maintenance.
Old 12-08-2018, 05:29 PM
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Finally something solid in this forum. Sounds great.
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Originally Posted by Zora.Info [img]images/buttons/viewpost.gif
I think it's safe to assume the front and rear lights are the production version. And they look great!

Originally Posted by Patriot10

The headlights look like some high quality HIDS or whatever the term is. Powerful white light.
For the rear lights that looks to be true. As to the headlights, the overall shape looks like probable production. But without the required amber light installed and showing, the headlights are not street legal. I’d expect HID lights, just not these. Even the lower front facia lights are no doubt just for the track ME. The noted amber/red side lights on the Camo Street ME we seem to all agree are probably not production either.







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Old 12-08-2018, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mustclime

it’s a v6.... with turbos..... I had a feeling that’s what it would sound like. Chevy is following the trend... nsx.... v6 turbo, Ford gt...v6 turbo. The ford gt was designed to win the class, that’s why it has a v6. The 5.5 l v8 in the c7r was limited like crazy to meet racing class rules.... the rules give advantages to v6 motors... the c8r has a v6....look, go to YouTube and and watch clips of the IMSA nsx and gt.... they sound the same.
There is not a single thing in the rules that give advantages to V6s. The Ford is running a V6, because they are (or were) promoting the hell out of the ecoboost v6 engine. There isn't any disadvantages to the v6, but Ford is the only one running a V6 in GTE/GTLM. Porsche runs a NA flat 6, and BMW, Ferrari, and Aston are all running turbo V8s (under 4 liters by the rules). I would put my money on a the V8tt.


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Under current IMSA GTLM rules, you have to be under 6L to run naturally aspirated, and under 4L to run with forced induction. They could downsize the Cadillac 4.2TT V8 but to homologate that would have to be offered in a C8 production car.
As you correctly noted previously in this thread, they don't actually have to offer the engine in the C8, having it elsewhere is enough. That said, Corvette races for marketing, and I'd be stunned if they didn't run the same engine (in larger displacement probably) in the C8. Also, as a minor note, maximum N/A size for GTE/GTLM is 5.5 liters.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
It could appear in the 3rd quarter of 2019 at WEC events, but they can't make it for IMSA, which is very important to GM and the US market. With the first IMSA event (Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona) happening in a little over a month, they have to commit to the C7R. Changing horses in mid-season means you start over points-wise.

In addition, I'm not sure what we saw at Sebring is actually the C8R. It may be testing of the street car with a hot engine by Pratt & Miller as they ramp up development of the C8R. Doug Fehan is already on record that they'll campaign the C7R throughout the 2019 season.
I agree, the rear diffuser is small from what I can see,
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Wow awesome. Sure sounds like this Super Car
Old 12-10-2018, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Zerv02
Why some people prefer the old version I simply can't understand..... whats so special about the v8 rumble... seriously, get with the times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTXT-ev_a5U&t=51s
Yeah, still like the sound of the C7 cross plane crank engine a lot better. A LOT BETTER! It just rocks going around the high bank!

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Old 12-10-2018, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Confirms the side "hook" on the headlight and we know the new tails. Sounds like a V6 which sadly makes sense for the rules.
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Old 12-15-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Under current IMSA GTLM rules, you have to be under 6L to run naturally aspirated, and under 4L to run with forced induction. They could downsize the Cadillac 4.2TT V8 but to homologate that would have to be offered in a C8 production car.
Why? BMW never offered a V8 in the Z4 but raced it in GTLM with a V8.
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Because IMO, BMW acted like a spoiled child and said that if they can not get that exemption, “we are taking our marbles and going home.”

Conversely, Doug Fehan is conversely a class act, doesn’t play those games, instead welcomes competition even if we have to race “uphill” — with others getting advantages we do not have.
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Old 12-15-2018, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
Ferrari's come with 7 years of free maintenance.
7 years free maintenance but a 3 year/unlimited mile warranty. Owner pays for all mechanical repairs in years 4,5,6 &7.

Small 4-cylinder engines are fairly smooth with their flat plane crankshafts but get pretty coarse as displacements approach 3 liters. Flat plane V8’s have been described as a pairing of two 4-cylinders. Ferrari’s small flat-plane V8s are pretty vibration-free at 3.9 liters. The big flat-plane V8 in the GT350 is anything but.
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Originally Posted by ZL-1


7 years free maintenance but a 3 year/unlimited mile warranty. Owner pays for all mechanical repairs in years 4,5,6 &7.
So that is why you have fun with the car instead of being a typical Ferrari owner that let's it sit in the garage and does 600 miles a year with it. Buy it new, drive the hell out of it, take advantage of the free maintenance for 7 years, and by the time the warranty is up you'll have 60K miles on it, and all the kinks will be worked out. Exotic cars get a bad rep for being unreliable. Well, they're not. Cars start having issues when they sit for a while, as most exotic cars do. There is a person on Instagram @lamborghiniks with a Pagani, Koenigsegg and a few other exotics. He says his cars are reliable becuase he drives them, and says that exotics become unreliable when they sit for a while. Makes a lot of sense.
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Old 12-15-2018, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon


not knowing the difference. Why is this a bad thing.? I’ve read that Ferrari’s have flat planes. ? Bad for durability. Etc?
A lot of misinformation here. I have 35,000 miles on my flat plane crank v8 gt350. There is no NVH concern at all and thats a very big displacement 5.2 liter v8, not a small one either.
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Originally Posted by ZL-1


7 years free maintenance but a 3 year/unlimited mile warranty. Owner pays for all mechanical repairs in years 4,5,6 &7.

Small 4-cylinder engines are fairly smooth with their flat plane crankshafts but get pretty coarse as displacements approach 3 liters. Flat plane V8’s have been described as a pairing of two 4-cylinders. Ferrari’s small flat-plane V8s are pretty vibration-free at 3.9 liters. The big flat-plane V8 in the GT350 is anything but.
Again, another misinformed post. Not sure what you are talking about here. I daily drive a gt350 and just did a 1,000 road trip 2 days ago in it with my wife and kid. Car is butter smooth and super comfortable, more comfortable than my 5 series M5 in fact.

I see a lot of ignorant, misinformed people in this forum who like to bury their head in the sand.

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Originally Posted by UnhandledException;1598507202[left
I see a lot of ignorant, misinformed people in this forum who like to bury their head in the sand.

Well, it does sound ironic having a forum with a non existantt show room car to begin with.
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