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Old 12-07-2018, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunset-C6


Are you old enough to remember the Pontiac Fiero, Chevrolet Corvair.....rear/mid engine is not new. How about the Ford Pantera
I’m old enough and would suggest the Fiero and Corvair are amongst two of GM’s most problematic vehicles.
I don’t think the Corvette Team would promote any connection to these vehicles.

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Old 12-07-2018, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vernon


I’m old enough and would suggest the Fiero and Corvair are amongst two of GM’s most problematic vehicles.
I don’t think the Corvette Team would promote any connection to these vehicles.
WTF......ME is not new.
Old 12-07-2018, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GOC
The DCT transmission would be the first to come to mind.
Considering they haven't solved all the issues with the A8, I seriously doubt they will figure out the DCT on the first try.
Old 12-07-2018, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Oh, for heaven's sake. We really are scraping the bottom of the speculation barrel now.

However, Shaka speaks the truth. Modern CAD design tools have pretty much eliminated introductory surprises, which is why it is no longer true that first MY vehicles should be avoided.
but, look at all the things the '15 got that the '14 didn't.
Old 12-07-2018, 10:54 PM
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GM has been rolling out new models and “working out the bugs” for the last 100 plus years. Doesn’t matter how good the design is, their quality control and dealer network are better suited to selling Yugos’

No telling what will happen with the C8, but history does tend to repeat itself.

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Old 12-08-2018, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk
but, look at all the things the '15 got that the '14 didn't.
And look at all the great things the 18 has that the 15 didn't. That's a different topic, upgrades vs. intro bugs.
Old 12-08-2018, 03:01 PM
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:08 PM
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I expect reliability to be typical for GM. The AC evaporator will probably be failure prone, the DCT will take a few years to sort out and may require total replacement on most C8s. The LT1 derived engine should be fairly reliable, but the V8TT engines will tend to self-immolate. There will be one wildcard in the mix, like bad engine mounts, or weak sway bar end links, etc. Something that we'll look at and ask how did they possibly **** that up?


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Old 12-08-2018, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk
but, look at all the things the '15 got that the '14 didn't.
Yup, on the flip side I rather have a restored 63 than all the new nerdy technology, but only a Sunday driver. If a production corvette has had no ME before not sure, than it's NEW.
Old 12-08-2018, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ShagVette
Only a few more months left of it.
Promise?
Old 12-09-2018, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AORoads
While it's not a 100% of all units produced problem, was the NX software used with the A8 transmission? Or was that earlier? Was it then used to solve the problem of some A8's ?
We are not privy to this information. Are you familiar with Interoperability of the U.S. Automotive Supply Chain particularly as to systems compatibility? The problems with the production car are almost always the supplier. Henry Ford was the first to examine auto supplier interoperability. I'm building my first completely computer generated car. I have contacted 4 companies to do a certain job and we are just not on the same page. I thought it would save me a bunch and simplify things. Boy, was I wrong.
To give you some idea what auto manufacturers are up against, check this paper. https://www.rti.org/sites/default/fi...Automotive.pdf Check out section 3. GM's NX system is not even mentioned because this paper is 20 years old. Suppliers just don't have the resources even today to avoid failures.The manufacturing methods and materials for the ME Vette will change the industry completely. The biggest problem will be and is intellectual theft. Thank God we have Trump in charge for now.

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Old 12-09-2018, 10:12 AM
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So...I bought 3 first year Corvettes (1998 C5 Convertible, 2005 C6 Convertible, 2014 C7 Convertible). My 1998 was the WORST car I've ever owned. My 2005 had a few issues (DBS, diff clutch packs), my 2014 has been flawless (now almost 5 years old).
Old 12-09-2018, 10:22 AM
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Who knows GM is testing the car to work out the bugs. The way I look at it: Its a mechanical machine with many moving parts It's not if it will break it's when. No different than the human body, I know many that work out take care of their selves and now are battling an incurable disease. I also know some that don't do anything and they are fine living into their 90's. Buy it and keep it while it's under the OEM warranty after the warranty is gone then you are now at risk.

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Old 12-09-2018, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
And look at all the great things the 18 has that the 15 didn't. That's a different topic, upgrades vs. intro bugs.
true, but there's still something to be said about being a first adopter.
Old 12-10-2018, 07:42 AM
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My guesses….motor mounts, harmonic (GM sometimes doesn't learn) balancer.

Cracked frames, engine mount subassembly, cooling, if operated on the street, I don't think there will be any issues.
Value train, perhaps some issues as this seems to be status quo.

12-11. Opps, no to answer below - meant to type valve train.
Plus, AC and heater vent system and their ducting doors, with this new design,
also be an maintenance issue as another co-member mentioned.

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Old 12-10-2018, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny94945
My guesses….motor mounts, harmonic (GM sometimes doesn't learn) balancer.

Cracked frames, engine mount subassembly, cooling, if operated on the street, I don't think there will be any issues.
Value train, perhaps some issues as this seems to be status quo.
Was that intentional?
Old 12-10-2018, 09:20 PM
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Who the hell knows? Paul

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Old 12-10-2018, 10:46 PM
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I would be surprised if they didn't have C8 overheating issues with the; engine, transmission, and rear differential.

Old 12-10-2018, 10:57 PM
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The 1984 MY was such a disaster in terms of QC, GM announced and published a list of 1,100 changes/tweaks/modifications to the 1985 MY. I knew right then, that I didn't want a new Corvette anytime soon.
.The 1st MY of the C5 was not dissimilar, a laundry list of; changes/tweaks/modifications, made to the 2nd C5 MY..My keeping a distance from buying a new Corvette, was well planted in my trust of GM.
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Originally Posted by AORoads
While it's not a 100% of all units produced problem, was the NX software used with the A8 transmission? Or was that earlier? Was it then used to solve the problem of some A8's ?
Thanks for the kind words. https://www.onshape.com/resources/eb...2-90e677894ab3


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