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Old 12-12-2018, 03:20 AM
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Not always. I bought the 1st MY 1980 Lincoln Town Car. It was an excellent car in most every way. I drove it 11-years. One thing I've noticed is that some options or equipment changes that kick in the 2nd MY, are things that I wished my 1st MY had.
Old 06-22-2019, 08:37 AM
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Both Porsche and GM mass produce, right? So, how is it that Porsche has fewer issues than GM. Sure they both have them but the frequency is lower with Porsche. Their processes as more finely tuned and somehow they must be paying more attention...
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Originally Posted by tcinla
Both Porsche and GM mass produce, right? So, how is it that Porsche has fewer issues than GM. Sure they both have them but the frequency is lower with Porsche. Their processes as more finely tuned and somehow they must be paying more attention...
Guess you didn’t hear about the GT3 recall where they all had to get new engines...
Old 06-22-2019, 09:13 AM
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Old 06-22-2019, 09:56 AM
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Yes. There tend to be issues and I don't want to be among the first to find out. I also don't have a need to own the latest and greatest before anyone else. If no issues come up, fine, I'll be late to the party. No big deal.
Old 06-22-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Triple Black
Guess you didn’t hear about the GT3 recall where they all had to get new engines...
So at least they did a recall instead of denying the issue and blaming the customers. If they have a history of dealing with issues this way then buying a first-year model gets to be quite alright.
Old 06-22-2019, 10:19 AM
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The IMS issue pre-dates the one you refer to... but, at least Porsche did a recall. Now, where is the A8 recall..... Hmmm, I’m sure GM is going to any day now? Accountability seems to be the difference you get when going with o e company over the other.

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my Z was a week 3 bulid (late nov 14). Through 4 years of ownership and 16k miles ive had a headlight assembly replaced....thats it. im leaning towards a gen v viper for my next purchase though that decision has nothing to do with any first year jitters.

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Old 06-22-2019, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tcinla
Both Porsche and GM mass produce, right? So, how is it that Porsche has fewer issues than GM. Sure they both have them but the frequency is lower with Porsche. Their processes as more finely tuned and somehow they must be paying more attention...
Yeah here are some examples of Porsche's "attention to detail".



Motors that blow up and barbecue.

Struts that bust through their housing towers for which there is no fix. Nice. What do the boys from Stutgart tells these poor suckers, "buy another Porsche, maybe you'll have better luck"?

The Porsche Fanboys who bash Corvettes, their owners, along with GM need to get off the Kool Aide that car magazines feed them.
Old 06-22-2019, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Triple Black
Guess you didn’t hear about the GT3 recall where they all had to get new engines...
Don't forget that Porsche replaced all 758 engines free of charge AND gave the owners an extended warranty. GM should have done something similar for the LS7 engines but all they did was say "we fixed it" when in fact they still had the issues past the date GM said the issue was fixed.
Granted, if your LS7 grenaded inside the warranty period, it was covered. Note the "IF". Porsche was proactive and got ahead of the issue.
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Like the guy in the first post of this thread,..I'm just too long in the tooth to wait.So if the price is right down here in sunny Florida I'll be in line for a 1st.year C8...
Old 06-22-2019, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ByByBMW
Don't forget that Porsche replaced all 758 engines free of charge AND gave the owners an extended warranty. GM should have done something similar for the LS7 engines but all they did was say "we fixed it" when in fact they still had the issues past the date GM said the issue was fixed.
Granted, if your LS7 grenaded inside the warranty period, it was covered. Note the "IF". Porsche was proactive and got ahead of the issue.
Amazing how the Porsche defenders of the faith on a Corvette board circle the wagons with a knee jerk mentality anytime the realities of their icon is mentioned or exposed.
Old 06-22-2019, 10:39 AM
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C5 steering column lock. C6 Z06 Cylinder head issue. The C7 A8 "problematic". All the techs will start with zero experience with this car. New Corvettes will likely sell at a premium, relative to future years. I think I'll let all of you beta testers finish your work. In the meantime I'll continue to enjoy my C7 M7 convertible.
Old 06-22-2019, 12:09 PM
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I have owned three first year models and had no major issues with any of them.

I am not in the market for a C8 and I would not buy one in the first year because I will not pay sticker price for a vehicle, let alone give a premium.

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Since I am very happy with my 2012 GS vert, I will continue to enjoy it for at least 2 more years. By then enough reviews will be available. Also, any issues that do arise will be well documented here in CF.
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My first Corvette was a 1984 which was a first year and from a totally different era of design and quality control. Never had a single problem with it in 3 years and I ran the crap out of it.
Old 06-22-2019, 02:35 PM
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In September 1967 I traded my 1966 Coupe in on the first '68 to hit my hometown. Took it home and the heater would not shut off, driver's window would not roll back up and the windshield wipers hit each other and several panels had "pilot job" stamped in white. Notwithstanding all of the above the car was fantastic, would cause people to come close to crashing as they tried to get a closer look on the road, and after parked for awhile would have more fingerprints on it than an FBI lab. Great memories!!! So...bottom line...I would not hesitate buying the first C8 that came available and I am sure they have learned how to construct them better in 50 years.

I had a 1970 and have two lingering memories of that car. The first was that the cockpit looked fabulous at night with all the LED displays, and the second was that the paint didn't adhere to the fiberglass. If a little pebble hit the car, the paint would be damaged. My only problem was the paint, but the car sure attracted attention. I had a convertible and it took no effort to get an attractive young lady to be my passenger.

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Old 06-22-2019, 02:36 PM
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Punky,...I also had an '84. It was my first brand new Corvette...It was a black stick 4+3 Doug Nash tranny,and it had a glass roof...I lived in a small town in rural upstate N.Y.at the time,and everybody knew everybody.So they all thought I'd won the lottery or something. Got to drive it alot more after the wife said it was time to move to Florida...We detailed it out and took it Super Chevy shows here in Florida.

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Old 06-22-2019, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by punky
My first Corvette was a 1984 which was a first year and from a totally different era of design and quality control. Never had a single problem with it in 3 years and I ran the crap out of it.
When my father bought a new car in the 1960s, he would always have a pad and pencil in the glove box to note all the quality issues. He'd wait about a month and by then the pad was half full. So it was off to the service department to have all the problems resolved. Certainly for the past 20 years the quality of cars has dramatically improved. A car with the lowest quality score in Consumer Reports today would be at the top of the list in 2000. My recent experiences have been with Porsches, and they have been virtually trouble free. Along with intense competition, I expect that CAD and robotics have really helped to improve quality.
Bottom line is that I'd be a lot more comfortable buying a new model in 2019 then I would have 20 years ago. OTOH if you don't feel a compulsion to be first, there are lots of good reasons that have been cited in this thread for delaying a year.

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Old 06-22-2019, 03:05 PM
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I'd say both the C7 (for its styling change) and the C8 are large departures from the "usual" Corvette. The C8 is a much larger departure, and unless some at GM are deluding themselves, a lot of people in general, buyers, potential buyers, and different brands all over the world will be watching. This will not be the time to have a serious flub or foul up.

For that reason, I'd have no problem buying a first-year car. I've done first year, last and in-between. Usually my best luck is last year of a gen or model run. My above comments about flubs and foul ups can also be about small stuff--things that just irritate the first time it happens, and then keep irritating. For the small things, we'll see how this first-year model does.

Truthfully, I'm expecting good things---like really hitting it out of the park. JMO.
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Originally Posted by tcinla
Both Porsche and GM mass produce, right? So, how is it that Porsche has fewer issues than GM. Sure they both have them but the frequency is lower with Porsche. Their processes as more finely tuned and somehow they must be paying more attention...
While Porsche is slightly ahead of GM they are both top of the industry. All my GM cars have been solid.

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