Does GM have the the cojones to...
#41
Is that for real, you did it? If true then c.c's would be a waste. But I have a feeling the pads may only help marginally . And that fine brake dust kills chrome if not cleaned regularly . Fact, just shy of a 500 mile road trip (Carlisle) in the ZR1, did a finger swipe of the rim and a near indiscernible amount of dust was present . My G.S. ? filthy in 10 miles.
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#42
Instructor
When I first got my Z07 package C6 I thought the same thing as you. Since it was used I didn't take nearly the full hit to the wallet for the option so I didn't care. Now that I've experienced them though I would never get another "fun car" without them. I wash the rims once every 2 car washes and they never get really bad. I do a lot of road rallies sometimes on mountainous back roads. By the bottom I can sometimes smell burning pads from the cars in front of me and I can tell they're feeling it. I have never even noticed a difference in the pedal feel. It's nice just knowing that you have that safety net. They look bad *** too. It's always a talking point when people are checking out my car.
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#43
Le Mans Master
When I first got my Z07 package C6 I thought the same thing as you. Since it was used I didn't take nearly the full hit to the wallet for the option so I didn't care. Now that I've experienced them though I would never get another "fun car" without them. I wash the rims once every 2 car washes and they never get really bad. I do a lot of road rallies sometimes on mountainous back roads. By the bottom I can sometimes smell burning pads from the cars in front of me and I can tell they're feeling it. I have never even noticed a difference in the pedal feel. It's nice just knowing that you have that safety net. They look bad *** too. It's always a talking point when people are checking out my car.
Is that for real, you did it? If true then c.c's would be a waste. But I have a feeling the pads may only help marginally . And that fine brake dust kills chrome if not cleaned regularly . Fact, just shy of a 500 mile road trip (Carlisle) in the ZR1, did a finger swipe of the rim and a near indiscernible amount of dust was present . My G.S. ? filthy in 10 miles.
Also, I would hope 500 miles of what I imagine is mostly highway milage, would have very little dust lol. Just playing btw.
#44
Is that for real, you did it? If true then c.c's would be a waste. But I have a feeling the pads may only help marginally . And that fine brake dust kills chrome if not cleaned regularly . Fact, just shy of a 500 mile road trip (Carlisle) in the ZR1, did a finger swipe of the rim and a near indiscernible amount of dust was present . My G.S. ? filthy in 10 miles.
Yeah, they stop well, but it's a PITA to keep clean.
#45
."Rhetorical," was claiming that the Corvette is a; "working man's supercar." That's just nutty.
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#47
You're losing some stopping power by making the switch to ceramic pads, but they are more than adequate for street use.
Last edited by Foosh; 12-28-2018 at 10:48 AM.
#48
Advanced
My 2 cents on the electrical system issue is that they are using more juice then they are producing. They probably are using a current gen alternator, but didn't realize the need for more fans to cool the rear radiators and the more juice needed for more gadgets in the cockpit like a bigger screen, navigation, Bluetooth, 50 usb plugins, and the coffee maker.
#49
Team Owner
I normally spend an hour washing my C6 Z06 after a decent length drive. I even do a quick detail at the motel in the evenings when on a lengthy road trip. It only adds maybe 10 minutes to wash/clean the wheels ( with steel rotors and stock pads). No big deal. If the car is only dusty, I use the California duster on it, and use spray Windex and an old towel to clean the chrome wheels.
I really don't understand why so much is made of having to clean the wheels ever so often.
I really don't understand why so much is made of having to clean the wheels ever so often.
#50
Racer
Why did tons of GM pickup trucks in the early 2000s have the drivers side daytime running light burn out prematurely? Why did the previous generation GMC Envoy constantly burn up the wiring sockets on the drivers side headlight? For that matter, why wouldn't the C5 hold enough of a charge to turn the motor over after sitting idle for a lousy two weeks? These things aren't as slam dunk as one might think and I can't imagine how complicated the charging system is on a techno-piece like the C8.
#51
Team Owner
Why did tons of GM pickup trucks in the early 2000s have the drivers side daytime running light burn out prematurely? Why did the previous generation GMC Envoy constantly burn up the wiring sockets on the drivers side headlight? For that matter, why wouldn't the C5 hold enough of a charge to turn the motor over after sitting idle for a lousy two weeks? These things aren't as slam dunk as one might think and I can't imagine how complicated the charging system is on a techno-piece like the C8.
#52
Race Director
I actually think the delay is BS. I think they are trying to give dealers a little more time to sell the ZR1s. Many have "market adjustment" mark ups and the dealers won't get them if the C8 is publicly announced in Jan.
So IMO its more likely GM is giving the dealer network a bit more time to get rid of current ZR1 inventory, because if you have $135k+ or more for a ZR1, why not wait 6-12 months for the $150k+ highest performing C8????
So IMO its more likely GM is giving the dealer network a bit more time to get rid of current ZR1 inventory, because if you have $135k+ or more for a ZR1, why not wait 6-12 months for the $150k+ highest performing C8????
Even "if" the Base model is within $10,000 of the current C7 why would I buy one?
C8 is Mid-Engine, new platform, new tech, and one of the Hottest Corvettes in history.
An American car with Porsche-like performance? Duh!!!
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#53
I wouldn't buy a C7 even at 40% off. It would have to be 50% or more so I can Flip it for a quick sale.
Even "if" the Base model is within $10,000 of the current C7 why would I buy one?
C8 is Mid-Engine, new platform, new tech, and one of the Hottest Corvettes in history.
An American car with Porsche-like performance? Duh!!!
Even "if" the Base model is within $10,000 of the current C7 why would I buy one?
C8 is Mid-Engine, new platform, new tech, and one of the Hottest Corvettes in history.
An American car with Porsche-like performance? Duh!!!
I reserve my judgement for after the car is reveal and at least tested by car journalist or real owner. Until then , it's all hype.
#54
Race Director
Wait till the car is actually reveal maybe ? We don't know anything about the C8 ME beside that it's Mid-Engine. Just the thought of Chevrolet being capable of producing a PDK like transmission for their ME car is very far fetched to begin with. The reason why Porsche are so good at what they do is refinement. The Corvette platform has a long way to go to every come close to what Porsche can do.
I reserve my judgement for after the car is reveal and at least tested by car journalist or real owner. Until then , it's all hype.
I reserve my judgement for after the car is reveal and at least tested by car journalist or real owner. Until then , it's all hype.
I hate automatics, so give me a decent 6 speed.
ME with any chasis near the Camaro platform and this C8 will destroy a C7.
0-60MPH, 1320, track, etc...
Yes, Porsche has done a great job, aka the Japanese because their vehicles are "Evolutionary" vs Revolutionary.
Small incremental changes like the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry which now dominate the US passenger car industry.
#55
It's the Brembo pads standard on Z51 and above, not the iron rotors. They are pads rated for "occasional track use." More dust = more stopping power with the exception of full carbon ceramic brakes including rotors. Aftermarket ceramic pads on iron rotors reduce dust by at least 90% by my estimation.
You're losing some stopping power by making the switch to ceramic pads, but they are more than adequate for street use.
You're losing some stopping power by making the switch to ceramic pads, but they are more than adequate for street use.
I'm curious how well ceramic pads hold up over time with the iron rotors...
The C7 ALREADY has that...in spades.
I don't know why folks keep forgetting this...
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#56
Le Mans Master
And why did the early C6's have the low beams shut off on their own while driving at night? GM had to recall them and do a "fix' because some engineer failed to adequately do his/her job of designing the fuse box and circuit board, etc, under the hot hood. Cars have had electric headlights for decades.
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#59
Team Owner
Let me tell you all about "electrical problems". Mercedes unveiled their Project One at the European Auto Show in Frankfurt back in 2017, this thing is 1 mill +, a hybrid, more electrical whatnot than anything GM has to offer AND they're still in the testing stages...do you think that it stopped them from showing a mock up in their homeland with Lewis Hamilton (F1 driver for M-B), not a f'kn chance. So if you think that "electrical problems" had something to do with GM from not showing a mule that doesn't have to do anything but sit there at an auto show you're f'kn nuts. There's something more to this than an "electrical problem".
GM is feeding you a f'kn line and some of you are falling for it hook, line and sinker. They want to catch those that are on the fence, C7....or C8. They want to sell as many C7's as possible and delaying the reveal (f'k I hate that ghey term) of the C8 or ME Whatever as much possible will help.
GM is feeding you a f'kn line and some of you are falling for it hook, line and sinker. They want to catch those that are on the fence, C7....or C8. They want to sell as many C7's as possible and delaying the reveal (f'k I hate that ghey term) of the C8 or ME Whatever as much possible will help.
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