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Old 01-12-2019, 04:56 PM
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I think a bunch of people need glasses. Where's that touch pad? Where's the vent at the top of the console? Everything is jumbled around other than the buttons at the right side of the console and the wrap-around infotainment screen (the contents of which have been intentionally blurred out).
It looks like there is a gap between the screen in the console and the aluminum bezel along the bottom that could easily be the air vent for the driver. Looks like its an inch or two high and the same width as the screen. That would fit the sketch. I"m not seeing any other place where the a center vent for the driver could be.

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Old 01-12-2019, 06:19 PM
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Does everyone else think the c8 corvette will be called Zerv and not Zora? Maybe Zerv is like Bruce Wayne the secret GM owner and this is his secret project?
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:22 PM
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Does everyone else think the c8 corvette will be called Zerv and not Zora? Maybe Zerv is like Bruce Wayne the secret GM owner and this is his secret project?
CERV (the early prototypes from a long time ago)= Corvette Engineering Research Vehicle
ZERV: Zora Engineering Research Vehicle
I think that is how it goes if I remember correctly.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:28 PM
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Refresh my memory - has GM always played the silent treatment until the last minute then did a surprise reveal in public with all info? or have they made an announcement before just giving a date when...?
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:36 AM
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Meanwhile, Porsche set a new record: "Porsche Cars North America Inc. said Thursday it had record U.S. retail sales in 2018, selling 57,202 vehicles, up 3.2% from the record set in 2017."
Yeah "vehicles". Over half of that was SUVs and another 8,000 was the Panamara sedan. Porsche sold about 14,000 sports cars in 2018.

For comparison Chevrolet sold 2036023 vehicles in 2018, Porsche is a long way from catching up.
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Old 01-13-2019, 01:17 AM
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If this thing drops on Mon/Tues I may hop a Th flight. Scrapped plans to attend since the C8 wasn’t likely.
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Old 01-13-2019, 01:32 AM
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Does everyone else think the c8 corvette will be called Zerv and not Zora? Maybe Zerv is like Bruce Wayne the secret GM owner and this is his secret project?
Nice one.

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Old 01-13-2019, 08:01 AM
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What if instead of the actual C8 ME being revealed this Monday night they show the first tease video in a series created in similar fashion as was with the C7. A disappointment for many of us but at least we’d have something to chew on and even enthusiastically debate here on CF. HOWEVER, please, please, please let me be wrong and the C8 is actually there, if anything to give Zerv02 an “I told you so”.

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Old 01-13-2019, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael A View Post
I think a bunch of people need glasses. Where's that touch pad? Where's the vent at the top of the console? Everything is jumbled around other than the buttons at the right side of the console and the wrap-around infotainment screen (the contents of which have been intentionally blurred out).
Did you ever try sketching something later on from what you recalled visually without the aid of a photograph? One may overlook a few details. Cut Zerv02 some slack, he did some things right.
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Old 01-13-2019, 08:48 AM
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I can't even remember anything beyond 10 mins. That's an excellent point though, photographic memory is rare.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:59 AM
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With the NAIAS press preview days beginning tomorrow, does anyone have any feedback from contractors or locals that helped setup the show on how the Chevrolet section is looking? If all of the vehicles are already at their stations since Chevrolet said 'no reveal' then that would solidify the C8 question in my opinion. However, if there is an empty turntable or heavily blocked off section - then maybe there is a chance!!
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Originally Posted by ShagVette View Post
Refresh my memory - has GM always played the silent treatment until the last minute then did a surprise reveal in public with all info? or have they made an announcement before just giving a date when...?
For the C7, there were teasers, the release date was published, etc...
This "stealth" release is the reason most are questioning it (me included).
It makes NO sense.

I am happy to be wrong, we'll see tomorrow.
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:20 PM
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For comparison Chevrolet sold 2036023 vehicles in 2018, Porsche is a long way from catching up.
Porsche sold 3 times as many vehicles as Corvette in 2018 and at higher average prices, yet you claim Porsche is "a long way from catching up?"

What color is the sky on your planet?
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by keagan View Post
I can't even remember anything beyond 10 mins.
Wait...why am I quoting your post again?
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Porsche sold 3 times as many vehicles as Corvette in 2018
Are you including their SUVs or just their Sportscars?
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by auburn2 View Post
Yeah "vehicles". Over half of that was SUVs and another 8,000 was the Panamara sedan. Porsche sold about 14,000 sports cars in 2018.

For comparison Chevrolet sold 2036023 vehicles in 2018, Porsche is a long way from catching up.
I don't have the numbers for 2018, but they are higher than in 2017.

Here are Porsche's 2017 sales

911----------------------32,197
Boxster/Cayman-----25,114
Cayenne---------------63,913
Macan-----------------97,202
Panamera------------37,605


As you can clearly see, Porsche sold 57,311 sports cars in 2017, not around 14,000.

Porsche, like GM sells vehicles worldwide, not just in the US.

Porsche sells a higher percentage of sports cars than GM.

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Old 01-13-2019, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem View Post

Are you including their SUVs or just their Sportscars?
Sports Utility Vehicles which Corvette should have had years ago like Lambo, Jag, Aston, etc. all have.

Do you think the car business is just a hobby where profits don't matter?
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Old 01-13-2019, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sunsalem View Post
Wait...why am I quoting your post again?

Are you including their SUVs or just their Sportscars?
If you compare total sales, Porsche sold 3 times the amount of sports cars than GM sold sports cars.

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Old 01-13-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5 View Post
I don't have the numbers for 2018, but they are higher than in 2017.

Here are Porsche's 2017 sales

911----------------------32,197
Boxster/Cayman-----25,114
Cayenne---------------63,913
Macan-----------------97,202
Panamera------------37,605


As you can clearly see, Porsche sold 57,311 sports cars in 2017, not around 14,000.

Porsche, like GM sells vehicles worldwide, not just in the US.

Porsche sells a higher percentage of sports cars than GM.

GM does NOT market its US vehicles worldwide. It is not a strategic element of their business model. They sold their EU divisions (Opel and Vauxhall) to Peugeot about 5 years ago. They have a big presence in China, but that presence is not GM, per se. They are joint ventures with Chinese companies selling completely different products, and GM is actually not even the majority partner.

GM does NOT sell more than a handful of their US cars beyond N. America, and they have a minimal dealer presence beyond N. America to market and support those products. They don't even try. Other than China, they're not putting much effort into international sales of passenger vehicles.

You keep publishing worldwide Porsche sales numbers, but it's a misleading example. Porsche sells basically the same models of all their vehicles worldwide, and they have developed a massive network to support those sales. That doesn't happen overnight, and GM has no comparable international infrastructure.

Meanwhile, Porsche sold 15K sportscars in the US in 2018. GM sold many more C7s, and if you include the hot Camaros and Cadillacs, they crushed Porsche in the US in "sporty" car sales.



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Originally Posted by SpeedyGonzales View Post
With the NAIAS press preview days beginning tomorrow, does anyone have any feedback from contractors or locals that helped setup the show on how the Chevrolet section is looking? If all of the vehicles are already at their stations since Chevrolet said 'no reveal' then that would solidify the C8 question in my opinion. However, if there is an empty turntable or heavily blocked off section - then maybe there is a chance!!
Here's a link to an ABC station in Detroit that's always on top of auto news, caught a quick video segment this AM, no news on screen........
https://www.wxyz.com/autoshow
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Originally Posted by mracer View Post
Here's a link to an ABC station in Detroit that's always on top of auto news, caught a quick video segment this AM, no news on screen........
https://www.wxyz.com/autoshow
I guess tonite we will get to see the Caddy AWD hybrid ME...
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