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Old 01-07-2019, 06:04 AM
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it was sent via Facebook messenger. I then saved it to my laptop and uploaded it straight to photobucket. The resolution is likely the highest possible
If the pics were sent to you via messenger they are definitely downsized. The largest version i have found of these pics are only 960x520, thats much much smaller than the resolution on any modern smartphone camera a Galaxy s6 camera for instance has a resolution of 2988 x 5312 pixels. So if your friend still has the pics and could send you the originals that would be amazing and a great help.

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this is the way the fender sits. Even tho there is no "scoop" detail visible, we can see a bit of confirmation of the upper fender crease and down angle as I suspected.

The actual scoop "box" surround will be different than what we are seeing in the camo images and seems to suggest a more refined and sculpted transition. I am working on a new render that could be closer. I Think both Chaz and BDS have many elements of the correct look and thank them for all their effort. !




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FVS, Nice to the point analysis. ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old 01-07-2019, 03:05 PM
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Thank you fvs. As noted by CRABBYJ, precise comparison.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenwick View Post
looks terrible haha. I don't know if its being compressed or something? https://cubeupload.com/ allows you to host uncompressed images for free.
It's not compression, it looks like he applied a sharpening filter, which is definitely not what the image needs in order to be cleaned up.
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by uneedthis2 View Post


it was sent via Facebook messenger. I then saved it to my laptop and uploaded it straight to photobucket. The resolution is likely the highest possible
Ask him to upload the original full resolution image file to a file sharing site like dropbox and give you access.

Assuming here that he wants it seen by the public. If you posted it without his permission then I guess he's no longer your buddy, lol.



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I can't help but jump in on this and comment on what I see vs. what everyone does not. I see the legs of the rack showing through what seems to be an opening in the quarter. I stuck in green lines that to me show it does seem to line up and the blue arrow points to the lighter wall behind that. I marked up the overlay with a green line which also seems to line up nicely with the real or not door lines leading into the quarter. All of you doing the renders are incredibly talented so not knocking your work but it seems everyone is trying to stick on a scoop that sticks way out from the quarter vs. letting it flow and recess in. I think letting the scoop cut in deeper will also give the car a more appealing waist vs. what seems to be more slab sided in the renders.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stevdug View Post


I can't help but jump in on this and comment on what I see vs. what everyone does not. I see the legs of the rack showing through what seems to be an opening in the quarter. I stuck in green lines that to me show it does seem to line up and the blue arrow points to the lighter wall behind that. I marked up the overlay with a green line which also seems to line up nicely with the real or not door lines leading into the quarter. All of you doing the renders are incredibly talented so not knocking your work but it seems everyone is trying to stick on a scoop that sticks way out from the quarter vs. letting it flow and recess in. I think letting the scoop cut in deeper will also give the car a more appealing waist vs. what seems to be more slab sided in the renders.
I can now scrap my pencil sketch from Shaka. This makes sense. This just works. Great work Steve.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:38 AM
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An opening like this can lend itself to a lot of scoop variations like what we see on the Lotus Elise. It is a little “old school” but may look very nice.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:56 AM
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[QUOTE=stevdug;1598649171]


That scoop shape would put the fuel door extremely close to the scoop.
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That scoop shape would put the fuel door extremely close to the scoop.
The scoop may be a little lower on the body side than depicted on this drawing. We now know that anything is possible!
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:10 AM
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While the internals of the scoop seem sound...the one thing i unfortunately see is the outward expansion of the side scoop in the beautiful depections are too aggressive ..

Traditionally manufacturers tend to error in the side of more subdued side scoops than what we have been viewing.

i prefer the sketches yet I believe a much flatter side scoop will be what appears in the showrooms...

with each iteration of design shown on the forums we get flatter and flatter side scoops....

possibly higher performamce versions will have more exaggerated side scoops and scoops on the hood....but first year...i expect a flatter side scoop than the beautiful artwork..

i happen to admire the side scoops on the 488 myself...yet that doesnt seem to be in the present game plan for the c8..

which is fine...i have complete comfidence the c8 will be stunning.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:07 PM
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Check this out and comment

The "reverse" image of the fender ( in the NOSE image) seems to show the inner surface of the rear fender. Note the bottom edge. It is in highlight which to me indicates a surface that projects inward and under the vertical body panel. Could this be part of the scoop ducting.?


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Old 01-09-2019, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon View Post
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The "reverse" image of the fender ( in the NOSE image) seems to show the inner surface of the rear fender. Note the bottom edge. It is in highlight which to me indicates a surface that projects inward and under the vertical body panel. Could this be part of the scoop ducting.?

sometimes this forum weirds me out-
I thought this scoop would be the talk of the evening!
FVS, do you see the big inlet or do you see something else?
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:41 PM
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Ok can’t argue with that. I thought for sure that was open but that reverse view sure looks like it is, for the most part a solid panel.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by John T View Post

sometimes this forum weirds me out-
I thought this scoop would be the talk of the evening!
FVS, do you see the big inlet or do you see something else?

as Stevedug commented, the reverse image does not seem to have any scoop hole in the area suggested.

One thing to keep in mind though. As we saw on the front fender image leaks, the headlight area was left solid for panel forming purposes. The headlamp areas will then be cut out in a secondary operation to create the opening. The rear fenders “could” be made the same way with only an indication of where the opening will be and then the scoop opening holes milled in later.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:03 AM
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Thanks FVS, glad you have been more active.!
i feel confident that the waist of the car will be very slim and the “scoop” will be flush with the quarter panels.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by John T View Post
Thanks FVS, glad you have been more active.!
i feel confident that the waist of the car will be very slim and the “scoop” will be flush with the quarter panels.

i agree. I don’t believe the scoops stick out past the rear fender width. Prob a bit less but the waist will coke bottle in just in front of the scoop tapering from the front wheels.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:42 AM
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Why even have a side scoop? Why not have sleek/smooth sides?

The engine cooling radiators are up front. Only need for side scoops would be for rear brake cooling and any transmission and differential cooling radiators. Current C7 handles those cooling needs with smaller specialty air intakes. So why not go that way and forego the huge side scoops?
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Old 01-10-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon View Post



i agree. I don’t believe the scoops stick out past the rear fender width. Prob a bit less but the waist will coke bottle in just in front of the scoop tapering from the front wheels.
Right. Hence the Coke Bottle shape.
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