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C8 scoop detail hiding in plain sight?

Old 01-06-2019, 03:33 PM
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We’ve all seen the paint shop fascia pics, they’ve been out for some time now.

What I didn’t notice until now is that the rear quarter mold also seems to be included behind the rear fascia. Not only that but it looks like somebody actually added some blur/distortion to it, making me think it was an intentional leak. Take a look at the rectangular blur that was added:




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The photo was even cropped in such a way to avoid the ever elusive scoop detail, further pointing to an intentional leak (they want us to see what they want us to see). However, if you zoom in to the bottom corner you can faintly see the bottom of what I believe is the scoop. It’s very blurry, but it’s there (you may need to zoom in on another higher-res version of photo to see for yourself, CF compresses the images):




What I see when I look at that is the beginning of the scoop, cove like in appearance, very similar to what BDSVARS has rendered:


Its also consistent to the shape we’ve seen hiding under the camo:




While the picture is blurry, I think this definitely puts to bed the great scoop debate. What do you think?


Update: I did my best with my limited photoshop abilities to try and highlight the beginning of the scoop:





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After looking at the photo of the rear quarter, it seems like every render is missing the intensity of the ďflareĒ over the rear wheel.

the camo definitely hides it well but it appears, after looking at the photo, that thereís a few inches of fender flare.

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Old 01-06-2019, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenwick View Post
Weíve all seen the paint shop fascia pics, theyíve been out for some time now.

What I didnít notice until now is that the rear quarter mold also seems to be included behind the rear fascia. Not only that but it looks like somebody actually added some blur/distortion to it, making me think it was an intentional leak. Take a look at the rectangular blur that was added:



The photo was even cropped in such a way to avoid the ever elusive scoop detail, further pointing to an intentional leak (they want us to see what they want us to see). However, if you zoom in to the bottom corner you can faintly see the bottom of what I believe is the scoop. Itís very blurry, but itís there (you may need to zoom in on another higher-res version of photo to see for yourself, CF compresses the images):
Hey. I was the one who first posted that picture. It was sent to me from a buddy who was a contractor at the plant.
This was nothing more than a cell phone picture from one buddy to another. If it's blurry, it's because he has an android!
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:42 PM
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Great catch, excellent post!!
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Old 01-06-2019, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by uneedthis2 View Post
Hey. I was the one who first posted that picture. It was sent to me from a buddy who was a contractor at the plant.
This was nothing more than a cell phone picture from one buddy to another. If it's blurry, it's because he has an android!
Oh cool. Iíll take my tinfoil hat off.

Thatís still the rear quarter and I still believe thatís the scoop.

Did he text it it to you? If so, maybe see if he could email you the original. It would be higher resolution as text messages get compressed. Weíd get a better look at that part of the scoop.
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GOod to hear you guys hace such good eyes...


My eyes dont allow me to see what you are talking about in the blurry photo but i trust you..

one day we will get to see unfettered photos of the c8 and we will all enjoy seeing who was right and who was slihtly off..

either way I appreciate these tidbits...

this has become like one of those tv treasure hunt shows...

the corvette marketing team must be having a ball...reading all these forum posts.
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Old 01-06-2019, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by uneedthis2 View Post
Hey. I was the one who first posted that picture. It was sent to me from a buddy who was a contractor at the plant.
This was nothing more than a cell phone picture from one buddy to another. If it's blurry, it's because he has an android!
What does android have to do with it?
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What does android have to do with it?
He's plainly saying Android cameras suck. Lol

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Old 01-06-2019, 07:15 PM
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Oh boy... IBT impending Android vs Apple thread lock...
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenwick View Post


Oh cool. Iíll take my tinfoil hat off.

Thatís still the rear quarter and I still believe thatís the scoop.

Did he text it it to you? If so, maybe see if he could email you the original. It would be higher resolution as text messages get compressed. Weíd get a better look at that part of the scoop.
it was sent via Facebook messenger. I then saved it to my laptop and uploaded it straight to photobucket. The resolution is likely the highest possible
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Originally Posted by John T View Post
Great catch, excellent post!!
FENWICK, I think you are correct about it being the MEís passanger side rear fender section. Note the length defined between the blue arrows. And the same with the blue line sloping down to the right from the fender rear end. IF the MEís rear fender section is similar to a C7 it could thus be reasoned to be constructed the same way. It looks to me that it does here. It even matches up to where I placed the arrow on the MEís rear facia. The problem is, the resolution of that fender would need to be enhanced to be definitive. I hope you or someone here on CF can resolve it better.


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FENWICK, I think you are correct about it being the MEís passanger side rear fender section. Note the length defined between the blue arrows. And the same with the blue line sloping down to the right from the fender rear end. IF the MEís rear fender section is similar to a C7 it could thus be reasoned to be constructed the same way. It looks to me that it does here. It even matches up to where I placed the arrow on the MEís rear facia. The problem is, the resolution of that fender would need to be enhanced to be definitive. I hope you or someone here on CF can resolve it better.


Iím thoroughly convinced itís the rear quarter.

The bottom rocker area shape matches up very well with the camouflaged cars as well as BDVARS render, which is a true testament and ringing endorsement to the quality of work these guys put in. I hope this new realization will allow them to tweak the renders to get closer to the real deal. Especially the apparent flare around the wheel well.

The back edge of the scoop (leading to the wheel well) also has an angular, almost rectangular shape which is also consistent with what weíre seeing on the camo cars.

I know now itís hard to see, as zooming in really distorts the already blurry pic, but if you play with the zoom and maybe find a clearer version of the source pic, you can definitely see the end edge of the scoop.

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Old 01-06-2019, 11:03 PM
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it was sent via Facebook messenger. I then saved it to my laptop and uploaded it straight to photobucket. The resolution is likely the highest possible
can I get a link to the photo bucket link? It might be clearer than the one I have.
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FENWICK: “I’m thoroughly convinced it’s the rear quarter.”

Me too. But the area were you indicate you see the scoop shape is specifically were I think the pic needs greater clarity and enhancement. I took the best resolution I could find to manipulate and this is the best I could do given my limited capabilities. I hope you find the better copy you seek.


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This is the best one I've been able to find. It comes out relatively clear on my laptop but I dunno if CF will compress it or not.
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I messed with the brightness/contrast on photoshop to try and get a clearer look at what I noticed. Hope it helps.

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Originally Posted by Fenwick View Post
Not only that but it looks like somebody actually added some blur/distortion to it, making me think it was an intentional leak. Take a look at the rectangular blur that was added:
Originally Posted by uneedthis2 View Post
This was nothing more than a cell phone picture from one buddy to another. If it's blurry, it's because he has an android!
The "blur" appears to be a reflection in the glass.
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Originally Posted by CRABBYJ View Post
FENWICK: ďIím thoroughly convinced itís the rear quarter.Ē

Me too. But the area were you indicate you see the scoop shape is specifically were I think the pic needs greater clarity and enhancement. I took the best resolution I could find to manipulate and this is the best I could do given my limited capabilities. I hope you find the better copy you seek.


looks terrible haha. I don't know if its being compressed or something? https://cubeupload.com/ allows you to host uncompressed images for free.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:21 AM
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That is a good catch, Fenwick. Given how large the area is in front of the wheel well, it’s definitely not the front clip. But there’s just too much reflection/degradation to make any use of it.
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Old 01-07-2019, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chazcron View Post
That is a good catch, Fenwick. Given how large the area is in front of the wheel well, itís definitely not the front clip. But thereís just too much reflection/degradation to make any use of it.
Itís weird seeing you say that because I see a couple elements in this photo that I see in your renders, mainly the area between the wheel and the scoop. That angular, boxy shape that becomes the scoop. Iím not very articulate.

If nothing else, you can get a decent idea of the size of the wheel well lip and a somewhat decent idea of the slightly flared fenders.
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