punky

Yeah my first Vette was an '84 we bought at the auction with 6K miles when I was 30 yrs old, a 4+3 manual with Z51. It was a truck. Dumped that at the auction a couple years later for an '87 manual, improved from the '84 and it was the Corvette of the day, we didn't know any better. My last C4 was an automatic '95 new from the dealer and I barely made a year in that one. It was on to the C5s from there. I didn't fully realize what turds the C4s were until I got my hands on a new C5 and never looked back. You could not give me a C4 at this point, they seemed alright while they were current but are a joke and a bad memory now. Each consecutive generation of Corvette from there has been a very significant upgrade and refinement. I can't wait to get into a C8

SurfnSun

punky

This stuff reminds me of the grouchy old men at car cruises in folding chairs who think there is no Corvette better than a cast iron big block C3. Reality is that the Corvette improves significantly with each successive generation. C1s, C2s, C3, C4s, are grossly inferior to the current generation whether those of us are fixated in the past or not. Some are most uncomfortable with that reality and resort to name calling. Everything changes, The earlier generations of Corvettes are now antiques and the majority of us have no more interest in a C4 than we do in a stinky old 50s era sedan because they are slow, uncomfortable, and very poor vehicles compared to what we drive today. No one is insulting you personally when they point out the short comings of vehicles that are now antiques and nothing more than that.

isellpower

What? The 911 and all of its variants, sans the GT cars are the very definition of a GrandTouring car.

Foosh

By all practical standards, the 911 is a 2-seat sports car. Those little "jumpseats" are not actual rear seats, except for tiny humans, but they have persuaded many spouses to accept a 911 purchase so little kids can ride with mommy and daddy.

Atari_Prime

I've never understood people's aversion to a firm ride. I had an 84' with Z51. I thought it rode great. I like feeling the road. Sure, bumps were a little jarring but I always been completely ok with that. I later had a 90' Vette as well. Except for the body panels, the cars couldn't be more different. I prefer the firm ride of the 84'.

SurfnSun

But...not all of them were as slow as you make it sound. Yes the early cars with 205-230hp are not a quick/fast today, but the other guy who insinuated that all C4s ran 150...conveniently ignored the 170mph 96 LT4, the 180mph ZR1, and the 191mph Callaway twin turbo. Fast by today's standards no...respectable? Absolutely. Ive put well over 100k miles on C4s...they aren't that uncomfortable. They have the best visibility of any of the new gens, and the best seats without a doubt. The C7 sport seats are some of the most uncomfortable Ive ever experienced. The Callaway recaro racing seats are way more comfortable to me.

Some guys can only afford a C4 or they like them bc that's what they grew up with...why do people always feel the need to trash them on this forum? Seems like a massive need for justification/acceptance/self-worth.

Again, no generation of Corvette since C4 has accomplished what it did in comparison to the competition. People already sling mud at the C7z for its overheating issues....how do you think that will age?

punky

I'll be the 1st guy to agree with you on the C7 sport(competition) seats. They are absolutely awful especially for anyone with some upper body size. All the posting in the world on your part will not change the overwhelming negative attitude towards the C4. Ever wonder why you can buy a C4 for less than a C3?

SurfnSun

I don't think my posting will change anything, it doesn't make it right thought. People should be more secure in their decisions instead of needing to justify

BTW, You can also buy a C6 and C7 for less than the cost of a C4...

Atari_Prime

Unpopular fact, the C4 ZR-1 was faster than any C5 made. GM did this on purpose to avoid offending the audience of the fastest and most expensive Corvette ever produced up to that point. The C5 was a more well rounded evolution of the brand with better components and interior design and was the most widely regarded Corvette in recent history. Arguably the penacle of Corvette popularity. Regardless, C4s are wonderful cars and so are the C5s. No need to bash each other or try to say one is better than the other. They are different flavors of the same tea. Let's instead waste our time bashing Porsche or the like instead.

punky

Wrong. Educate yourself. The average C3 has a much higher book value that the average C4. There is a reason for that.

SurfnSun

more cherry picking posts. Here are a couple of winners






Fact...a rare or top option C4 sells for more than a base C6-C7, or any C5. The rarest C4s sell for more than ANY C7...new or used. Weird.

punky

Sir, do your self a favor and learn how to read and comprehend on a basic level in English before you attempt to educate anyone. I am referring to the price of the average C4 vs C5 as was clearly stated in my post.

SurfnSun

SouthernSon

It is so lonely at the top! When is the last time one bashed the little AMC pacer? or a ford explorer? Reminds me of the bashing my favorite NCAA football team gets each year.....Roll Tide!! (so lonely at the top....well okay, mostly) Point is an object of ridicule has to be relevant to be on the receiving end of such slings and arrows. The Corvette is relevant in spades!!!

JD_AMG

Are you talking about top speed? If so who cares? By like 10mph too...
These are sports cars, what matters is how they perform on a road course, how they handle and how they feel. The C5 Z06 does everything better than the C4 ZR1 with the exception of having a ~10mph lower top speed.
I don't want to bicker between Corvettes so I will just say Porsche sucks, so there.

FAUEE

The c4 is WAY more engaging than the newer cars. Its a lot more analog feeling, and the cars just drive great. They may not perform as well as newer variants, but thats to be expected of progress. When your new car is slower than your old one... thats a problem.

DaveFerrari458

One of the things that could kill the Corvette is if it looks like some of the renders we've seen on here that are rather bland or awkward looking but I have faith in the Corvette team that they will bring out a stunningly beautiful car!

lt4obsesses

It was a more analog feeling because it was still very much an analog car. There was the ASR, which would push the gas pedal back at your foot when the rear tires spun, but other than that, no traction control, no nannies. Mine was a '96 LT4. It would get up and go, for what it was. But after the Hotcam and the light flywheel went in, it was much better. By '96 the suspension had gotten a lot softer. I put the stiffer Bilsteins in mine and that helped firm it up a little bit. What I really like about that car was the fact that when you got in it, you didn't sit in the car, you felt like you were wearing the car. But, yeah, 3 generations and 23 years later, technology at every level from engineering to manufacturing, the C4 is what it is, an old Corvette, and that's not necessarily a bad thing to everyone.

Dominic Sorresso