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The ZR1 is generating huge profits for Corvette and GM. Why kill the golden goose, especially when the rest of the C7 lineup is stagnating? The ME is nowhere in sight, so stealing its thunder is not a problem. ZR1 is the only Corvette on the market that is causing excitement and good publicity for Corvette. Also, it runs circles around the new 911 so let the head-to-head comparisons run!
Where the hell do you come up with this stuff? How do you have any idea what kind of profit GM generates on the sale of maybe 2K ZR1s annually?
I hadn't heard this, but if that's the case it'll mean a run of about 2K cars a year, more or less, and this in the intro year when excitement should have been at peak. That's more evidence that the market for a $130K+ Corvette just isn't very large. It's not just Corvette as sales for any sports car at that price level and above is quite small.
I think that is an assumption.
I think Chevy limits production of the ZR1. Afterall, they only allocate so many builds a year and I'm pretty sure every year every car is built and sold (at least based on the last search I did for a car).
I also think that part of the issue is a $130k higher power, bedazzled version of a sub $60k car at play here as well. Really hard to justify more than doubling the base price of any automobile. To me, that is why the idea of a FE staying in with the starting price in the $60s and a ME with a higher starting price makes sense.
I think that is an assumption.
I think Chevy limits production of the ZR1. Afterall, they only allocate so many builds a year and I'm pretty sure every year every car is built and sold (at least based on the last search I did for a car).
I also think that part of the issue is a $130k higher power, bedazzled version of a sub $60k car at play here as well. Really hard to justify more than doubling the base price of any automobile. To me, that is why the idea of a FE staying in with the starting price in the $60s and a ME with a higher starting price makes sense.
To each his own. A dual FE and ME strategy makes no sense at all to me. The broad spectrum of Corvette pricing and performance on the same basic platform is a very successful formula as it is for the 911. I don't think buyers of the $300K 911 GT2 RS are going to be terribly concerned that it looks a lot like the $100K 911 Carrera T.
In any event, as of mid-January 2019, about 1700 ZR1s have been produced. Since production started in March 2018, that puts it on a pace for about 2K units per year, whether cancelled in March 2019 or not.
To me, that is why the idea of a FE staying in with the starting price in the $60s and a ME with a higher starting price makes sense.
I wrote a wall of text...like I usually do, about how I feel when it comes to the FE and ME Corvette theory...then I realized that its easier to just post a meme...because everyone likes memes right?
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We still don't know what this test car was (photo taken in May 2018). Notice ZR1 wing, Z06 body/fenders, but had no supercharger in it. It had some very specific color accent locations, using the orange, but reminded me of the "redline" edition cars GM has been flirting with.
In the end though, let's all brace ourselves for the IMSA 50th anniversary edition, or Corvette Racing 20th anniversary edition car.....ughh.
We're still waiting to know what this car was though....the C7 I think a lot of people wanted...N/A, manual gearbox, big aero.
We still don't know what this test car was (photo taken in May 2018). Notice ZR1 wing, Z06 body/fenders, but had no supercharger in it. It had some very specific color accent locations, using the orange, but reminded me of the "redline" edition cars GM has been flirting with.
In the end though, let's all brace ourselves for the IMSA 50th anniversary edition, or Corvette Racing 20th anniversary edition car.....ughh.
We're still waiting to know what this car was though....the C7 I think a lot of people wanted...N/A, manual gearbox, big aero.
It could be a big displacement NA V8. LS7 successor? There is also that ZL1 1LE with the carbon ceramics. They could put the engine in there too. Z/28. Probably not going to happen though.
It could be a big displacement NA V8. LS7 successor? There is also that ZL1 1LE with the carbon ceramics. They could put the engine in there too. Z/28. Probably not going to happen though.
The C8 car has some naturally aspirated V8 going in it...theoretically the LT6 designation possibly...or LT2 even. If the C8 is about to debut and got delayed, the motor will still have already been Sae certified, smogged, etc. Theoretically you could have a possible 500+hp engine that can go in a parts bin C7 and make one hell of an exciting car...but...like you said....probably not gonna happen.
The C8 car has some naturally aspirated V8 going in it...theoretically the LT6 designation possibly...or LT2 even. If the C8 is about to debut and got delayed, the motor will still have already been Sae certified, smogged, etc. Theoretically you could have a possible 500+hp engine that can go in a parts bin C7 and make one hell of an exciting car...but...like you said....probably not gonna happen.
It would make a lot of sense. C7 Final Edition, 2020 Camaro Z/28, and then that could be the engine for the C8 base model. A big V8 would definitely make more people buy it. But not going to happen.
Some dealers have ZR1s in stock. Perhaps supply has caught up with demand.
Highly doubt it.
In stock configurations are probably just not what people actually want. Nobody is going to spend that kind of money and not get exactly what they want.
If any dealer has a new TR/BLK M7 3ZR ZTK with black wheels, red calipers, and comp seats laying around at MSRP... I will buy it today.
01-19-2019, 06:39 PM
(yawn) I'm gonna see what's happening over in C6 General
