What are the chances of a C8 FE and C8 ME revealing together?
02-08-2019, 11:50 AM
#441
A bit prejudice? i have a friend who is a hairdresser in Beverly Hills. Wonderful person with a fine family. He drives a Ferrari. It's not a truck, but I guess it will have to do.
02-08-2019, 12:13 PM
#442
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
My comments still stand as I too have owned enough cars(Corvettes and Ferrari's)to make a logical assessment. The Boxster is a complete compromise and you should know that. I get that you have a thing for that Miata / Audi TT/ Boxster segment but it has zero correlation to the ZORA so keep it out of this thread.
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02-08-2019, 12:32 PM
#443
Melting Slicks
My comments still stand as I too have owned enough cars(Corvettes and Ferrari's)to make a logical assessment. The Boxster is a complete compromise and you should know that. I get that you have a thing for that Miata / Audi TT/ Boxster segment but it has zero correlation to the ZORA so keep it out of this thread.
And I highly doubt many Boxster owners view their car as competition for the Corvette. If they wanted a Vette, they had the money to buy one. They chose the Porsche instead.
02-08-2019, 12:44 PM
#444
Melting Slicks
I mean heck, I expect many here to write off the C8 as a hairdressers compromise, if it supposedly can't be done properly under $100k when it starts selling under $70k.
02-08-2019, 12:58 PM
#445
Some of this conversation just boggles my mind. The quality of the base car is going to be the same as the high end car, and there will be trim level choices on each. It'll be just like the current C7. Does anyone really believe that the quality level of a ZR1 is any better than a base car?
It's the same platform built by the same people on the same assembly line, using a majority of the same parts. That what allows GM to mass manufacture it at a lower price than the competition producing similar performing cars.
It's the same platform built by the same people on the same assembly line, using a majority of the same parts. That what allows GM to mass manufacture it at a lower price than the competition producing similar performing cars.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-08-2019 at 01:17 PM.
02-08-2019, 01:03 PM
#446
Safety Car
Some of this conversation just boggles my mind. The quality of the base car is going to be the same as the high end car, and there will be trim level choices on each. It'll be just like the current C7. Does anyone really believe that the quality level of a ZR1 is any better than a base car?
It's the same platform built by the same people on the same assembly line, using a majority of the same parts.
It's the same platform built by the same people on the same assembly line, using a majority of the same parts.
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02-08-2019, 01:43 PM
#447
This conversation is stupid. I'm a Corvette guy through and through, but I can appreciate cars in general. I sold Porsches for a couple years and the 987 Boxster/Cayman is a fantastic car. The ones later than that are even better. They don't sound like a Corvette, but the handling and general sportiness is top notch. If I had the choice to spend a weekend on the Dragon in a Corvette ZR1 or a Boxster S I'd take the Boxster honest to God. It's a car you can actually wind out a few years w/o going 120 and you can use the power and put the top down. On a racetrack there's no comparison and a reason why I race Corvettes. I'd own a Boxster as my "fun" car if the local Corvette club wouldn't kick me out 
02-10-2019, 01:21 PM
#448
So much speculation on this C8. GM Marketing is not as concerned with valuation of previous model years when introducing a new Model. Life goes on Technology moves ahead. At this point what GM Marketing is concerned about is World Acceptance of this phenomenal New Car. Maybe the reason the Bowling Green Plant was updated and enlarged was the speculation that this new car would obtain the acceptance and goals that GM started out to obtain on a Global Scale . Lets see what goes on in Switzerland next month.
02-18-2019, 06:34 PM
#449
Building a FE and a ME from the same architecture has been done by Ford on their GT and GR-1 from about 2005. Whether it could be done on the same production line is another matter.
"The Shelby GR-1 starts with a modified version of the aluminum chassis from the rear-engine Ford GT. The bulk of the rear structure is made from slightly modified Ford GT components, including the massive trellis-like, cast-aluminum suspension nodes, the rear rails and bumper beam, a major cross-member and the brackets used to mount the transmission.
The center portion of the spaceframe also borrows liberally from the Ford GT as major aluminum extrusions are based heavily on existing pieces. At the front of the coupe, the team incorporated extruded main rails, a steering rack cross-member, crash-management sections and the bumper beam from the Ford GT.
"Building a concept car with this level of sophistication is much easier when you start with a world-class supercar like the Ford GT," says Martens. "This commonality and re-use goes hand-in-hand with our speed and cost efficiency, promising the Ford GT's bang-for-the-buck equation if the Shelby GR-1 goes to production."
Overall, the Ford Shelby GR-1 concept is more than two feet shorter than the Ford GT, with a wheelbase nearly seven inches shorter. The track width has been reduced by more than an inch. That the concept car and the GT share any parts at all is a testimony to the flexibility of the space frame design and the creativity of the chassis team".
"The Shelby GR-1 starts with a modified version of the aluminum chassis from the rear-engine Ford GT. The bulk of the rear structure is made from slightly modified Ford GT components, including the massive trellis-like, cast-aluminum suspension nodes, the rear rails and bumper beam, a major cross-member and the brackets used to mount the transmission.
The center portion of the spaceframe also borrows liberally from the Ford GT as major aluminum extrusions are based heavily on existing pieces. At the front of the coupe, the team incorporated extruded main rails, a steering rack cross-member, crash-management sections and the bumper beam from the Ford GT.
"Building a concept car with this level of sophistication is much easier when you start with a world-class supercar like the Ford GT," says Martens. "This commonality and re-use goes hand-in-hand with our speed and cost efficiency, promising the Ford GT's bang-for-the-buck equation if the Shelby GR-1 goes to production."
Overall, the Ford Shelby GR-1 concept is more than two feet shorter than the Ford GT, with a wheelbase nearly seven inches shorter. The track width has been reduced by more than an inch. That the concept car and the GT share any parts at all is a testimony to the flexibility of the space frame design and the creativity of the chassis team".
02-19-2019, 04:28 PM
#450
Race Director
My comments still stand as I too have owned enough cars(Corvettes and Ferrari's)to make a logical assessment. The Boxster is a complete compromise and you should know that. I get that you have a thing for that Miata / Audi TT/ Boxster segment but it has zero correlation to the ZORA so keep it out of this thread.
People that think the Boxster/Cayman are anything less than GREAT cars need to learn about CARS.
BTW, the Miata is NOT part of the TT/Boxster/Cayman segment. It (Miata) is as far away from the TT/Boxster/Cayman as the Boxster/Cayman are from the ME Corvette. If anything, you could make the case for the Miata AND Corvette being their own individual segments.
Last edited by jimmyb; 02-19-2019 at 04:33 PM.
02-19-2019, 08:52 PM
#451
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Yeah boy...who wants a $65K car with a bunch of 911 parts on it?
People that think the Boxster/Cayman are anything less than GREAT cars need to learn about CARS.
BTW, the Miata is NOT part of the TT/Boxster/Cayman segment. It (Miata) is as far away from the TT/Boxster/Cayman as the Boxster/Cayman are from the ME Corvette. If anything, you could make the case for the Miata AND Corvette being their own individual segments.
People that think the Boxster/Cayman are anything less than GREAT cars need to learn about CARS.
BTW, the Miata is NOT part of the TT/Boxster/Cayman segment. It (Miata) is as far away from the TT/Boxster/Cayman as the Boxster/Cayman are from the ME Corvette. If anything, you could make the case for the Miata AND Corvette being their own individual segments.
You, and others can continue to have your love affair with the hairdresser car catagory. I choose to focus on the ZORA being the new upper level Supercar that GM themselves identified as a Supercar at the Las Vegas Dealers Convention last year. There are some on this forum that are continually trying to drag and dumb down this great new ZORA to the Hairdresser sportscar catagory. I can only imagine GM and the Corvette Team shaking their heads in despair in the lowering of expectations of their new Supercar by some of the lower tier Corvette faithful.
Last edited by skank; 02-19-2019 at 09:51 PM.
02-20-2019, 01:43 PM
#452
Jimmyb,
You, and others can continue to have your love affair with the hairdresser car catagory. I choose to focus on the ZORA being the new upper level Supercar that GM themselves identified as a Supercar at the Las Vegas Dealers Convention last year. There are some on this forum that are continually trying to drag and dumb down this great new ZORA to the Hairdresser sportscar catagory. I can only imagine GM and the Corvette Team shaking their heads in despair in the lowering of expectations of their new Supercar by some of the lower tier Corvette faithful.
You, and others can continue to have your love affair with the hairdresser car catagory. I choose to focus on the ZORA being the new upper level Supercar that GM themselves identified as a Supercar at the Las Vegas Dealers Convention last year. There are some on this forum that are continually trying to drag and dumb down this great new ZORA to the Hairdresser sportscar catagory. I can only imagine GM and the Corvette Team shaking their heads in despair in the lowering of expectations of their new Supercar by some of the lower tier Corvette faithful.
Don't be a snobby schmuck. Good lord.
02-20-2019, 02:33 PM
#454
02-20-2019, 02:50 PM
#455
Jimmyb,
You, and others can continue to have your love affair with the hairdresser car catagory. I choose to focus on the ZORA being the new upper level Supercar that GM themselves identified as a Supercar at the Las Vegas Dealers Convention last year. There are some on this forum that are continually trying to drag and dumb down this great new ZORA to the Hairdresser sportscar catagory. I can only imagine GM and the Corvette Team shaking their heads in despair in the lowering of expectations of their new Supercar by some of the lower tier Corvette faithful.
You, and others can continue to have your love affair with the hairdresser car catagory. I choose to focus on the ZORA being the new upper level Supercar that GM themselves identified as a Supercar at the Las Vegas Dealers Convention last year. There are some on this forum that are continually trying to drag and dumb down this great new ZORA to the Hairdresser sportscar catagory. I can only imagine GM and the Corvette Team shaking their heads in despair in the lowering of expectations of their new Supercar by some of the lower tier Corvette faithful.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-20-2019 at 02:50 PM.
02-20-2019, 02:56 PM
#456
Jimmyb,
You, and others can continue to have your love affair with the hairdresser car catagory. I choose to focus on the ZORA being the new upper level Supercar that GM themselves identified as a Supercar at the Las Vegas Dealers Convention last year. There are some on this forum that are continually trying to drag and dumb down this great new ZORA to the Hairdresser sportscar catagory. I can only imagine GM and the Corvette Team shaking their heads in despair in the lowering of expectations of their new Supercar by some of the lower tier Corvette faithful.
You, and others can continue to have your love affair with the hairdresser car catagory. I choose to focus on the ZORA being the new upper level Supercar that GM themselves identified as a Supercar at the Las Vegas Dealers Convention last year. There are some on this forum that are continually trying to drag and dumb down this great new ZORA to the Hairdresser sportscar catagory. I can only imagine GM and the Corvette Team shaking their heads in despair in the lowering of expectations of their new Supercar by some of the lower tier Corvette faithful.
Last edited by Foosh; 02-20-2019 at 02:57 PM.
02-20-2019, 03:30 PM
#458
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
I base my assessments on verifiable information that I've assembled in a logical Post that had input from many knowledgeable people on this forum. You have one phantom association with a person you assume(without verification) has inside information of the C8. You are a legend in your own mind and trying to remain relevant. Sorry, you are just a blowhard.