Notices
C8 General Discussion The place to discuss the next generation of Corvette.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

C&D doubles down on C8 info

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-01-2019, 03:22 PM
  #1  
zr_kaizen
Racer
Thread Starter
 
zr_kaizen's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2017
Posts: 319
Received 180 Likes on 95 Posts
2020 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default C&D doubles down on C8 info

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...dition-europe/

“While there may be a gap between C7 and C8 models in Europe, that's not the case for America. We have it on good authority that there will be some overlap between production of the C7 and C8 Corvettes for the first year or two of the mid-engined C8 car's run, with the high-performance Z06 and ZR1 C7 modelscontinuing on as Chevrolet builds out the C8 lineup beyond the base car, which will launch first.”
Old 02-01-2019, 04:21 PM
  #2  
Foosh
Team Owner
 
Foosh's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2004
Posts: 25,434
Received 16,667 Likes on 8,311 Posts

Default

Thanks for posting this. C&D Intel reports on new models over the years have been as hit and miss as any other journalistic outlet. However, I could see a short overlap period involving the higher-end C7 models as they may be able to exercise options to do short-term extensions of contracts with C7 suppliers at previously agreed upon prices.

If they are right, it certainly debunks the theory advanced by some frequent posters here that a refreshed C7 will serve the low-cost market, whereas the ME will only be high-end.

Last edited by Foosh; 02-01-2019 at 04:24 PM.
Old 02-01-2019, 04:32 PM
  #3  
C7Me
Burning Brakes
 
C7Me's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: Chicago Suburbs IL
Posts: 929
Received 479 Likes on 256 Posts
St. Jude Donor '19
Default

If this is true then the first C8 ME's will be at the entry level price point, about $65K, when it comes out while the Z06 and ZR1 fill the higher price/performance gap for a couple of years.
Old 02-01-2019, 06:52 PM
  #4  
Dominic Sorresso
Le Mans Master
 
Dominic Sorresso's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2000
Location: Bartlett IL
Posts: 6,256
Received 691 Likes on 425 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by zr_kaizen
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...dition-europe/

“While there may be a gap between C7 and C8 models in Europe, that's not the case for America. We have it on good authority that there will be some overlap between production of the C7 and C8 Corvettes for the first year or two of the mid-engined C8 car's run, with the high-performance Z06 and ZR1 C7 modelscontinuing on as Chevrolet builds out the C8 lineup beyond the base car, which will launch first.”
GM taking advantage of the FE die-hards to get their last licks, but oh ur gonna pay for that. I get it.
Old 02-01-2019, 07:16 PM
  #5  
Tom73
Race Director
 
Tom73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 1999
Location: NM
Posts: 14,809
Received 470 Likes on 279 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C7Me
If this is true then the first C8 ME's will be at the entry level price point, about $65K, when it comes out while the Z06 and ZR1 fill the higher price/performance gap for a couple of years.
In my world the first year C8 will be a base model with a NA LT1 variant. In year 2 or 3 they will introduce a Z06 with a 4.4 TT DOHC engine. Then in year 3 or 4 we will see a ZR1 with a 5.5L TT DOHC engine. The base engine for the full run of the C8 will be the LT1 variant. In years 5 or 6 we will get the C9 that will implement every thing Chevy learned from the C8 production.
Old 02-01-2019, 08:37 PM
  #6  
C7nut
Pro

 
C7nut's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2018
Posts: 683
Received 337 Likes on 190 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tom73

In my world the first year C8 will be a base model with a NA LT1 variant. In year 2 or 3 they will introduce a Z06 with a 4.4 TT DOHC engine. Then in year 3 or 4 we will see a ZR1 with a 5.5L TT DOHC engine. The base engine for the full run of the C8 will be the LT1 variant. In years 5 or 6 we will get the C9 that will implement every thing Chevy learned from the C8 production.
Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....
Old 02-01-2019, 08:52 PM
  #7  
Tom73
Race Director
 
Tom73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 1999
Location: NM
Posts: 14,809
Received 470 Likes on 279 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C7nut
Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....
Not in my world view.
Old 02-01-2019, 09:40 PM
  #8  
smithers
Melting Slicks
 
smithers's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,013
Received 4,977 Likes on 1,812 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by C7nut
Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....
Nah, not that soon. The only all electric car GM has made so far is the Bolt (lol). They are far far away from building some all electric supercar-ish vehicle.
Old 02-01-2019, 10:25 PM
  #9  
range96
Le Mans Master
 
range96's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2010
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 5,605
Received 1,946 Likes on 1,203 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Foosh
Thanks for posting this. C&D Intel reports on new models over the years have been as hit and miss as any other journalistic outlet. However, I could see a short overlap period involving the higher-end C7 models as they may be able to exercise options to do short-term extensions of contracts with C7 suppliers at previously agreed upon prices.

If they are right, it certainly debunks the theory advanced by some frequent posters here that a refreshed C7 will serve the low-cost market, whereas the ME will only be high-end.
I noticed you turned down your tone a bit. You called this "crazy theories", "ignorant", "naive" before. If C&D's claim turns out to be true you might as well crawl under a rock somewhere.
The following users liked this post:
vndkshn (02-03-2019)
Old 02-01-2019, 10:29 PM
  #10  
roadbike56
Race Director
Support Corvetteforum!
 
roadbike56's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2011
Location: Holly Springs NC
Posts: 14,371
Received 1,609 Likes on 1,037 Posts
St. Jude Donor '16-'17,'22,'24

Default

If true, then this blows the high entry price for the ME into the weeds.
I wonder where the "I have a contact who said" crowd is? You can almost hear a pin drop.
Also puts a big pin in the "No more C7" camp's balloon.
Old 02-01-2019, 10:50 PM
  #11  
spireland
Melting Slicks
 
spireland's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: SF Bay Area CA
Posts: 2,094
Received 2,147 Likes on 877 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tom73

Not in my world view.
Yeah, who would want all that instant torque. Ugh, I hate going fast.
The following users liked this post:
Jackie Chiles (02-13-2019)
Old 02-01-2019, 11:18 PM
  #12  
VETTE-NV
16 Vettes and counting…..
Support Corvetteforum!
 
VETTE-NV's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,823
Received 1,141 Likes on 540 Posts

Default

I would take whatever C&D says with a grain of salt. In the past, they've often been as accurate as ZERV02. Not saying they are wrong now, but they want clicks too. It's all speculation until GM speaks....nothing more.
The following users liked this post:
Garret (02-02-2019)
Old 02-02-2019, 11:13 AM
  #13  
dreamr616
Drifting
 
dreamr616's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2013
Location: Swartz Creek MI
Posts: 1,492
Received 632 Likes on 401 Posts

Default

“We have it on good authority”.

That pretty much says it all about C&D and their reporting. Never seen them get ANYTHING right regards future models. Typical clickbait for them.
Old 02-02-2019, 11:21 AM
  #14  
Zjoe6
Moderator
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Zjoe6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2015
Location: SE WI
Posts: 10,576
Received 3,932 Likes on 2,421 Posts
Default

Never trust the media, even if what they say makes you happy.
Old 02-02-2019, 07:06 PM
  #15  
jefnvk
Melting Slicks
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2018
Location: AA/Metro Detroit
Posts: 2,096
Received 1,022 Likes on 637 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dominic Sorresso
GM taking advantage of the FE die-hards to get their last licks, but oh ur gonna pay for that. I get it.
More like, IF true, keeping a performance model on duty while the performance C8 line is sorted out.

If there are so many people clamoring to keep a FE Corvette, why wouldn't they just buy one now, instead of waiting a few years for the same thing?
Old 02-02-2019, 08:23 PM
  #16  
mschuyler
Safety Car
 
mschuyler's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2016
Location: Bainbridge Island WA
Posts: 4,980
Received 3,818 Likes on 1,614 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by C7nut
Then again, in year 3 or 4 or 5 we could see all electric Z06's & ZR1's. Do you think its possible the last of the C7's could be the sad end of the gas powered super Corvettes? Hope not.....
IMO the vastly different engineering needed means the Lectric Vette will debut with the C9. They'll have to engineer a completely new car for that, which will take awhile.

Old 02-02-2019, 08:39 PM
  #17  
ojm
Le Mans Master
 
ojm's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2015
Location: here
Posts: 8,712
Received 202 Likes on 155 Posts
Default

Not sure really understand? does the article say there will be a 2020 model C7?

Get notified of new replies

To C&D doubles down on C8 info

Old 02-02-2019, 09:05 PM
  #18  
RPMaddiction
Instructor
 
RPMaddiction's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Posts: 146
Received 67 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tom73

In my world the first year C8 will be a base model with a NA LT1 variant. In year 2 or 3 they will introduce a Z06 with a 4.4 TT DOHC engine. Then in year 3 or 4 we will see a ZR1 with a 5.5L TT DOHC engine. The base engine for the full run of the C8 will be the LT1 variant. In years 5 or 6 we will get the C9 that will implement every thing Chevy learned from the C8 production.
Absolutely no way will the C8 see only a 5 year lifecycle. Try doubling that and then add a few more. The whole platform will be a decade in chasing black ink from the development investment.
Old 02-02-2019, 09:17 PM
  #19  
Tom73
Race Director
 
Tom73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 1999
Location: NM
Posts: 14,809
Received 470 Likes on 279 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by RPMaddiction


Absolutely no way will the C8 see only a 5 year lifecycle. Try doubling that and then add a few more. The whole platform will be a decade in chasing black ink from the development investment.
Being their first major ME project there will be mistakes. A 6 year life cycle, same as the C7, will give Chevy a chance to engineer out any problems that have been identified in the C8.
Old 02-02-2019, 09:18 PM
  #20  
Tom73
Race Director
 
Tom73's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 1999
Location: NM
Posts: 14,809
Received 470 Likes on 279 Posts

Default

Maybe a C8.5.


Quick Reply: C&D doubles down on C8 info



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:32 AM.