Skid Row Joe

If it makes it faster, then, yes.

Tom73

And cost, fully equipped top of the line, $25,000.

LawrenceFromTorrance

I accidently posted this in the wrong thread but it still cracks me up so I put it here where I originally thought I was putting it.
Let's see do I buy a C8 with 460 HP. Well it won't be light unless it very crude because you all know you need those creature comforts to impress your friends (and yourself). There won't be that much storage space so even going to the grocery store to show off your new car will be a challenge. It's not really very fast and will get torn up on the street by dodges, Camaros, older vettes etc, so be meek at those stop lights. If you get next to a Ferrari, they will laugh at you. Your status will quickly change from rich and cool to just another fool that got taken in by a sales pitch. Wait, didn't Chevy already do this? I think it was called a Fireo (under powered, under accessorized). No wait that was a Corvair because it was rear engine. Well, I'm sure they've learned their lesson by now so it can only survive if
1) It's fast
2) It's powerful
3) It's well appointed inside
4) It's beautiful
5) It can be at a stop light next to a Italian car and get respect
6) ... You finish this

VetteDrmr

First, note that I didn't reference the price of the car. That said, the price of supercars is usually out of the range for our budgets. Enthusiasts can and do make the sacrifices necessary to own the car of their dreams, assuming they are deemed worthy to own one.

Corvettes have had superior performance for many "supercars" for decades. They've never been awarded "supercar" status.

BTW, serious question: does anyone know where the current Ford GT was designed?

Have a good one,
Mike

firstvettesoon

"...If anyone other than the elite class can own one, then by definition it can't be a supercar...

This is the comment I was responding to.

I agree your other observations are commonly accepted but reject the idea of the need to be "awarded" the status. If the auto experts and reviewers start to refer to the c8 as a supercar... it will be accepted as a supercar in the minds of the public.

Exotic...no. exclusive....no.

I predict the Z models will be referred to as "An American Supercar" and compared to the best in the world.

"Supercar" is in the mind of the beholder.

Rkreigh

amen. gm hasn't been all that successful with dohc implementations hence outsourced some of the successful Lt5 program

I'd like to see a modern lt5 with the sb4 heads and dump the sc. add a pair of turbos 75- on no boost, as much as you dare with it

VetteDrmr

Fair enough. I should have said that "...then by the media's definition it can't be a supercar". Here's a quote from Doug Demuro's review of the C7 Z06:

It already is. But, an "American" supercar, to the rest of the world, isn't.

At least on this forum, and between you and me, I wholeheartedly agree. And I truly hope that the C8 will be accepted as such by the rest of the world. And, finally, I really don't care. I love my 'Vettes, and while I'd take a McLaren if you gave it to me, I'd never buy one (they're my favorite supercar).

Have a good one,
Mike

RapidC84B

I'd be perfectly fine with a carry over LT1 if the car dropped 300 lbs and got back to C5 Z06 weight; around 3100 lbs.

Goaty

460hp isn't good enough when Camaros and Mustangs are already at that level. GM always bumps the power up on a new gen Vette, I expect they will this time and would be disappointed if they didn't.

VetteDrmr

That'll be really tough with the current federal safety regs and all the stuff the buying public requires of top-end cars.

Have a good one,
Mike

RapidC84B

One can wish... I would love to have a car with less content. Problem is when they do that these days they charge more, just look at Porsche.

punky

Exactly, 4 cylinder go carts that can easily cost $100,000. Ridiculous. No wonder they sell so few of them.

vndkshn

Sorry, you lost me at "Doug Demuro's review"...... That dude defines snob.

TBIRD57

NO! if you are going to playing with the big boys you better have the power to do so-450 isn't any longer.
should be at least 560 for the base 700 for the top model. if you want cruiser status there are plenty of other nice lookers out there.

VetteDrmr

Fine, but keep an eye out for the reviews. I predict that few, if any, will deem the C8 to drop into the Supercar realm.

BTW, that works for me; I care very little (ok, not really at all) what others think about my 'Vettes. I got them for my enjoyment, not to impress anyone else.

Have a good one,
Mike

RapidC84B

Actually I was referring to the GT3 type cars. They charge more for the "hardcore" option or whatever it's called with rear seat and radio delete. You actually pay more for less things.

EvanZR1

I'd be perfectly happy with the base car keeping the current 460HP. The current chassis can't fully utilize all of that power already (although I'm perfectly happy to have in my '15), so I'd be fine with keeping that power level if the ME chassis and DCT can put it down better and keep costs down. Having said that, what I'd really love to see is a smaller displacement, higher revving DOHC engine making 500HP NA as the base motor. Shouldn't be too hard to do since my 91 ZR-1 makes about 630HP in a 391 cubic inch, and there's plenty of stock (5.7L) displacement C4 ZR-1 guys making 500HP (or higher) out of 25+ year old technology. Hmm, 500HP base Blackwing motor anyone?

84 4+3

The radio delete on the 84 saved you 400$ iirc.

VetteDrmr

It is in a federally regulated, high reliability/low maintenance, production environment.

Have a good one,
Mike

vndkshn

Oh I agree, just saying that Doug's opinions are largely based on his high opinion of himself.

I'm with you, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....