Happy With 460 HP?
02-10-2019, 10:15 AM
#61
Not going to happen
Corvette will not break from its past and offer 300hp cars, even if lighter. Makes no sense, would be a break from their reputation for affordable pricing for world class performance! They would be laughed out of the auto world for a new mid engine state of the art platform, launching with a whopping 300hp? Why would people think they would entertain this thought for even a second?
02-10-2019, 10:17 AM
#62
Melting Slicks
The question should be "if the base comes with 460HP will all the other components handle 1000HP ?" GM needs to realize we refuse to settle for what we are given.
Last edited by choppychop; 02-10-2019 at 10:17 AM.
02-10-2019, 10:19 AM
#63
Corvette will not break from its past and offer 300hp cars, even if lighter. Makes no sense, would be a break from their reputation for affordable pricing for world class performance! They would be laughed out of the auto world for a new mid engine state of the art platform, launching with a whopping 300hp? Why would people think they would entertain this thought for even a second?
02-10-2019, 10:21 AM
#64
Le Mans Master
460 HP probably.
Lower gearing may also "fool" us to make the Vette feel or actually be faster.
Yet comment above, power to weight ration.
C8 may need a 50 HP bump to keep the current C7 ptw ratio.
Lower gearing may also "fool" us to make the Vette feel or actually be faster.
Yet comment above, power to weight ration.
C8 may need a 50 HP bump to keep the current C7 ptw ratio.
02-10-2019, 10:23 AM
#65
The mid engine will handle 1000+
I read about two years ago Corvette had a current engine able to make 1000hp but had no car to place it in. The C7 could not handle such hp. Hence why the C8 platform is needed on Hp, along with the performance and handling to compete with the big boys.
02-10-2019, 10:26 AM
#66
Melting Slicks
Originally Posted by faninc
I read about two years ago Corvette had a current engine able to make 1000hp but had no car to place it in. The C7 could not handle such hp. Hence why the C8 platform is needed on Hp, along with the performance and handling to compete with the big boys.
02-10-2019, 10:29 AM
#67
Drifting
My thoughts:
All trims go on a diet and drop 250 to 500 pounds. I can't be the only one who thinks they had have gotten too heavy. This would possibly mean smaller engines with more output though which would anger some. I think more gain would be relized from cutting weight than adding power at this point.
As a matter of fact I would even say I wouldn't be disappointed if there was a model below the current base with a V6 naturally aspirated in the mid to low 300 hp range that could then eventually be modded to have a twin turbo setup. Such a car I think would help expand the customer base by having a lower cost option that gets better fuel economy in a light weight two seat sports car (something the camaro is not and can't be)
All trims go on a diet and drop 250 to 500 pounds. I can't be the only one who thinks they had have gotten too heavy. This would possibly mean smaller engines with more output though which would anger some. I think more gain would be relized from cutting weight than adding power at this point.
As a matter of fact I would even say I wouldn't be disappointed if there was a model below the current base with a V6 naturally aspirated in the mid to low 300 hp range that could then eventually be modded to have a twin turbo setup. Such a car I think would help expand the customer base by having a lower cost option that gets better fuel economy in a light weight two seat sports car (something the camaro is not and can't be)
02-10-2019, 10:37 AM
#68
Drifting
My thoughts:
All trims go on a diet and drop 250 to 500 pounds. I can't be the only one who thinks they had have gotten too heavy. This would possibly mean smaller engines with more output though which would anger some. I think more gain would be relized from cutting weight than adding power at this point.
As a matter of fact I would even say I wouldn't be disappointed if there was a model below the current base with a V6 naturally aspirated in the mid to low 300 hp range that could then eventually be modded to have a twin turbo setup. Such a car I think would help expand the customer base by having a lower cost option that gets better fuel economy in a light weight two seat sports car (something the camaro is not and can't be)
All trims go on a diet and drop 250 to 500 pounds. I can't be the only one who thinks they had have gotten too heavy. This would possibly mean smaller engines with more output though which would anger some. I think more gain would be relized from cutting weight than adding power at this point.
As a matter of fact I would even say I wouldn't be disappointed if there was a model below the current base with a V6 naturally aspirated in the mid to low 300 hp range that could then eventually be modded to have a twin turbo setup. Such a car I think would help expand the customer base by having a lower cost option that gets better fuel economy in a light weight two seat sports car (something the camaro is not and can't be)
02-10-2019, 10:45 AM
#69
Le Mans Master
That’s what some of us are trying to advocate for. This DOHC controversy is the latest in the long line of “breaks w tradition” the purists get their panties in a knot about w every new generation.
The ME is something many Corvette enthusiasts have been waiting for most of their time as fans of America’s sportscar icon.
I know I have since the first ME was shown in NY in 1970 as a spoiler for the intro of Ford’s Pantera.
The ME is something many Corvette enthusiasts have been waiting for most of their time as fans of America’s sportscar icon.
I know I have since the first ME was shown in NY in 1970 as a spoiler for the intro of Ford’s Pantera.
02-10-2019, 10:57 AM
#71
Le Mans Master
there aren't a lot of hi-po cars weighing <3100lbs out there... The 911s are and some of the Mclarens but the lambos, Ferraris etc are all around that 3300 mark.Just because you use carbon fiber doesn't mean the car is going to be light sadly.... I'd say the top top of the line should clock in around 3300 and the base 3050. That's a reasonable weight reduction imo.
02-10-2019, 11:13 AM
#72
Racer
ITT: More people who don't understand the benefits of a ME layout, and only understand "MORE POWER!"
This is exactly what I was talking about in another thread about Chevrolet needing to do more marketing to educate what ME really means for the future of the Corvette to increase sales.
Take a look at what a base 911 Carrera does with a "paltry" 370 horsepower/330 lb-ft that half the people in this thread would never buy because "MY HORSEPOWER!"
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...a-test-review/
Granted, the engine is underrated a bit (it's closer to 400), and the engine hangs out a bit farther back than the C8s will, but you don't NEED 500+ horsepower in a base ME model to get near-Z06-level performance.
This is exactly what I was talking about in another thread about Chevrolet needing to do more marketing to educate what ME really means for the future of the Corvette to increase sales.
Take a look at what a base 911 Carrera does with a "paltry" 370 horsepower/330 lb-ft that half the people in this thread would never buy because "MY HORSEPOWER!"
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...a-test-review/
Granted, the engine is underrated a bit (it's closer to 400), and the engine hangs out a bit farther back than the C8s will, but you don't NEED 500+ horsepower in a base ME model to get near-Z06-level performance.
Last edited by Dethsupp0rt; 02-10-2019 at 11:15 AM.
02-10-2019, 11:19 AM
#73
Safety Car
At least on a local level the corvette community is expecting at least a bump in HP from 460. This has been the case at least from the last several generations. 500hp might be a magic number but 490 wont offend I dont think. I'd like to see some serious effort to keeping weight down, that would be big.
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02-10-2019, 01:06 PM
#74
Banned Scam/Spammer
Damn right. Posh 911 or any of them almost look the same. Sport version of the VW bugs. Same thing with the Audi TT. Euro trash. This is America, home of HP and TQ. If Ford can give the mustang a 25-35 HP bump for a mid-year I dont see how the c8 wont get one. Unless some of you are saying the Coyote is so much better then the lt1?
Last edited by lostsoul; 02-10-2019 at 01:07 PM.
02-10-2019, 04:54 PM
#76
Le Mans Master
37 MPG town is impossible without a 70-100 HP hybrid drive train and a little bitty engine.
02-10-2019, 05:30 PM
#77
Performance does. Supercars do not need expensive appointments or luxury features. Some supercars are spartan and barely driveable. They are expensive because they are not mass produced.
02-10-2019, 05:33 PM
#78
Instructor
I can be happy with 460 HP for the base car. Would prefer a slight bump up or a slight weight savings but if it makes the base C8 affordable, then I am for it.
02-10-2019, 05:34 PM
#79
I'll go with 515hp Bob!
02-10-2019, 05:42 PM
#80
Performance = supercar
I will let the expert magazines who pit supercar against one another speak. A supercar and a cachet car are two different things. Most private country club members don’t care a Corvette is outperforming their Porsche, real car guys do!
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