Will the lack of cargo space hurt the ME Corvette’s sales?
#81
Melting Slicks
I have faith there will be space, but perhaps not for golf clubs. But this is a good thing because the younger crowd doesn't play golf. IF GM is, indeed, trying to ditch the Baby Boomers, not having space for golf clubs won't hurt them. As a Boomer myself, I couldn't care less if it has room for golf clubs. An AR-15 has a collapsible stock, so no problem!
#82
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The majority of Corvette buyers are not the younger crowd. I am not confident that if the Mid Engine Corvette becomes the new C8, it will be as big of a seller among those who ary the majority of Corvette buyers. Sales will no longer be in the 35 K range in number of sales but will drop drastically.
#83
Drifting
The majority of Corvette buyers are not the younger crowd. I am not confident that if the Mid Engine Corvette becomes the new C8, it will be as big of a seller among those who ary the majority of Corvette buyers. Sales will no longer be in the 35 K range in number of sales but will drop drastically.
#85
Instructor
Some comments:
1. My wife's 2002 (ME) Boxster had enough room for 2 weeks at the beach, including a telescope.
2. I sold my pick-up, so I just loaded 1 1/2 sheets of 3/4" cabinet grade plywood cut into 12"x40" pieces for a shelving project. Fit into my C7 no problem... (the lumber guy didn't flick an eye)
3. I believe if the average Corvette owner/golfer left their driver and putter at home they would cut 3 stroke of their handicap.
just remember...
1. My wife's 2002 (ME) Boxster had enough room for 2 weeks at the beach, including a telescope.
2. I sold my pick-up, so I just loaded 1 1/2 sheets of 3/4" cabinet grade plywood cut into 12"x40" pieces for a shelving project. Fit into my C7 no problem... (the lumber guy didn't flick an eye)
3. I believe if the average Corvette owner/golfer left their driver and putter at home they would cut 3 stroke of their handicap.
just remember...
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St. Jude Donor '15
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What I remember is the reason I bought my 2015 GMC Sierra !! Of interest, to the nay sayers, automobile marketing dept’s use a very detailed database labeled “Statistics”! which will include the details of past corvette owners who used the luggage compartment for their golfing needs!
#87
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Of course its going to be epic but the haters here along with the import humping auto press are addressing the ME C8 similar to the way MSNBC treats our President. One can only imagine the avalanche of praise and hype that the car mags and import lovers would provide if Porsche were changing from its current **** eyed junk in the trunk location to a mid engine format. It would be considered an engineering master piece in a 911 but a failure in a C8 before the first unit is sold. Stupid.
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#90
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Based on the C4's 'statistics', 70% of the buyers purchased the transparent top and 30% ordered the painted targa top, so GM had their suppliers to tool up for 70% transparent and 30% painted tops.
Well...guess what? Right off the bat the C5's purchasers wanted 70% painted and 30% transparent and GM had to put the painted top on long term constraint until the supplier of the painted top could tool up to produce all those needed painted tops.
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#91
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BUT, when I hear that the Corvette can carry two golf bags, then I know that it will carry enough luggage, etc for a two week road trip that I do use my Corvette for, or carry other bulky items that won't fit in a 4.4 cu ft space.
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For example, when GM released the 1997 Corvette, they used their "database" to project the customers want of the painted targa top and the transparent targa top.
Based on the C4's 'statistics', 70% of the buyers purchased the transparent top and 30% ordered the painted targa top, so GM had their suppliers to tool up for 70% transparent and 30% painted tops.
Well...guess what? Right off the bat the C5's purchasers wanted 70% painted and 30% transparent and GM had to put the painted top on long term constraint until the supplier of the painted top could tool up to produce all those needed painted tops.
Based on the C4's 'statistics', 70% of the buyers purchased the transparent top and 30% ordered the painted targa top, so GM had their suppliers to tool up for 70% transparent and 30% painted tops.
Well...guess what? Right off the bat the C5's purchasers wanted 70% painted and 30% transparent and GM had to put the painted top on long term constraint until the supplier of the painted top could tool up to produce all those needed painted tops.
Nissan/Infiniti gingerly drove into the market for new-design sedans back in the early 2000s ('03) with their 4-door sedan. It sold very well, much better than prior models. Less than a year later, being careful to get the brand and model intro'd to the public, they brought out their G35 coupe, a sport/luxo model.
It sold very well in both AT and MT models. So well, that two months into releasing it, the senior management had to 'stop the line' building 4-door sedans completely---to build coupes with both transmissions.
The "original studies" had shown about 9K-10K first-year sales of coupes. When the model year ended, they'd sold 30K coupes. WAY off in predictions and they did study it hard after lukewarm sales of prior gen sedans and bland coupes for a decade or more.
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#93
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I do think the "space" issue (and more accurately, the USABLE space issue) is probably taken care of since it would be shortsighted to do anything less. But it's not just a GM thing to get the stats and projections wrong even WITH a "detailed database."
Nissan/Infiniti gingerly drove into the market for new-design sedans back in the early 2000s ('03) with their 4-door sedan. It sold very well, much better than prior models. Less than a year later, being careful to get the brand and model intro'd to the public, they brought out their G35 coupe, a sport/luxo model.
It sold very well in both AT and MT models. So well, that two months into releasing it, the senior management had to 'stop the line' building 4-door sedans completely---to build coupes with both transmissions.
The "original studies" had shown about 9K-10K first-year sales of coupes. When the model year ended, they'd sold 30K coupes. WAY off in predictions and they did study it hard after lukewarm sales of prior gen sedans and bland coupes for a decade or more.
Nissan/Infiniti gingerly drove into the market for new-design sedans back in the early 2000s ('03) with their 4-door sedan. It sold very well, much better than prior models. Less than a year later, being careful to get the brand and model intro'd to the public, they brought out their G35 coupe, a sport/luxo model.
It sold very well in both AT and MT models. So well, that two months into releasing it, the senior management had to 'stop the line' building 4-door sedans completely---to build coupes with both transmissions.
The "original studies" had shown about 9K-10K first-year sales of coupes. When the model year ended, they'd sold 30K coupes. WAY off in predictions and they did study it hard after lukewarm sales of prior gen sedans and bland coupes for a decade or more.
The front stabilizer bar was designed with an offset in the middle to clear the harmonic balancer of the straight 6 engine. GM originally purchased enough bars for the intended production of the Corvette. Well, it took 7 years to use up that original purchase of stabilizer bars. The 1960 MY had the first use of the new stabilizer designed for the shorter V8, as it didn't have the offset. 30,404 Corvettes were built through 1959. Same as the number of people back in 1953 that said they would buy a Corvette.
So much for "market" research as GM didn't think it would take 7 years to reach the 30,000 production.
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#94
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Honestly, being able to fit two sets of clubs in my car along with a couple of small bags for a weekend is a big deal to me. I could fit two sets in my 2004 Viper at the same time, but nothing additional. Partially the reason I sold it and got into a C6. That and I loved my C5Z's practicality. I'd love for the C8 to be able to retain space for me and my wife to do a golf weekend up north.
#95
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Honestly, being able to fit two sets of clubs in my car along with a couple of small bags for a weekend is a big deal to me. I could fit two sets in my 2004 Viper at the same time, but nothing additional. Partially the reason I sold it and got into a C6. That and I loved my C5Z's practicality. I'd love for the C8 to be able to retain space for me and my wife to do a golf weekend up north.
#96
Melting Slicks
Perhaps for the interest in decorum we convert the word GOLF BAGS to cubic feet! 1 golf bag is 3 cubic feet (my guess) or for the show-car crowd 'folding chairs'! lol
It also pertains to length of bags and WIDTH of luggage compartment.
So length/ width =36" to 42"
My 82 CE is the king of the C-3's with just tons of room and super easy access.
unkahal
It also pertains to length of bags and WIDTH of luggage compartment.
So length/ width =36" to 42"
My 82 CE is the king of the C-3's with just tons of room and super easy access.
unkahal
#97
Here is the order:
1) If I cannot carry it walking, take the Harley.
2) If it will not fit in the Harley, take the Vette.
3) If it will not fit in Vette, take Silverado.
4) If it will not fit in Silverado, hook up enclosed trailer.
5) If it will not fit in trailer, buy another house where you are going and put an extra one(s) there.
This has worked for years, I hope the C8 does not screw it up.
VH
1) If I cannot carry it walking, take the Harley.
2) If it will not fit in the Harley, take the Vette.
3) If it will not fit in Vette, take Silverado.
4) If it will not fit in Silverado, hook up enclosed trailer.
5) If it will not fit in trailer, buy another house where you are going and put an extra one(s) there.
This has worked for years, I hope the C8 does not screw it up.
VH