Tom73

Nothing more than the same lock step German efficiency that built Panzers.

Gearhead Jim

No production line does a perfect job. But...
I've done the buyer's factory at BG twice.Both my wife and I were impressed by the care and pride shown by the assembly line workers. Our four new Corvettes have had a good share of problems, but all of them were caused by parts that failed after being on the street for a while, none of the problems were caused by poor work on the assembly line.

Gearhead Jim

It seems to me that a model year is whatever GM says it is, looking at how the 2018 & 2019 dates were juggled.
If the C8 goes into production in December 2020, it could still credibly be called a 2020 MY car. That would be 21 months from now and over a year later than the estimates being made a few months ago.

The people who know don't talk, but lack of proof does not change my opinion that the C8 has been delayed from what GM had planned a few months ago. Depending on the reasons and how GM handles them, this could be insignificant or of major importance.

We just have to be patient.

Tom73

Jeff, can you provide some links, would love to see who is risking their jobs/careers by posting confidential/privileged information.

Rapid Fred

My guess, which is based on every bit as much data as you have, is that they are comfortable AND have pride/esprit de corps. Remember, they have VERY powerful "Works Councils" in Germany and line workers tend to be treated with respect. They also tend to be pretty dedicated and focused. They are very well trained and compensated. All of it adds up.

I've had a lifetime observing that as people began to dress like slobs on the job they would tell themselves they were "productive" and "quality" and such -- but in fact the work tended to get as sloppy as the workers. Definitely saw it in schools -- us "repressed" catholic school kids in our uniforms kicked the public school kids' butts acedemically even though our class sizes were 3X as big. Now I note that charter schools that brought in uniforms tended to show improved performance. All part of a more disciplined and focused culture. You can be creative without being a slob.

If I were an assembly line guy, I'd be proud to wear "team colors" like the Porsche guys do -- provided the conditions and pay were good. Plenty of time to "play dress up" and show my individuality when I'm not on the line...

RapidC84B

Add me to the group who would like to at least see BGA workers in some kind of Corvette polo shirt. Maybe not the full on oompa loompa get up (it would have to be demim overalls for Kentucky ) but at least a coordinated team shirt.

Jeff V.

https://ca.linkedin.com/in/jahernandez89

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ricardobaca

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-heineman

There's other mentions of the program codes that don't have dates. Some people have cleaned up their profiles in the last few months, so there aren't as many as there used to be. Also, the quotes above were taken from Google's page caches. So the actual profiles may have been cleaned and just haven't been reflected in the cache yet.

Several of the test cars also have a yellow strip of tape with numbers on them. Part of the code is L, for model year 2020. This was confirmed by comparing the codes to spy shots from other cars that have gone on to be released.

Mikec7z

Except, that would mean lawsuits if customers bought the museum delivery package when they ordered their cars, and then at the last second, the customer is told the museum delivery and plant tour cant happen.

If you think GM is so internally hush hush, that there is not a person who is atop the museum delivery program, that is NOT informed when the blackout dates for touring the factory will be, dates supplied by GM, and informed well in advance, then you and I live in 2 different universes.

Further, if GM Authority and other sources claim there is a 6 month delay for electrical issues, and there was actually NOT a real delay and no electrical issue, I can guarantee Tadge or anyone else from GM would have squashed that story fast, as it is a kick in the nuts on the global stage vs other manufacturers, that no one wants to endure allowing the public to believe is true, IF it is not true.

There is a delay. Get over it. Car was supposed to be revealed already.

ArmchairArchitect

You're kind of proving the point, though you don't realize it. Now picture your office if everyone just wore street casual rather than business casual. It's about the sweet spot in between, not the two extremes of streetwear and suits. You need at least a little bit of professionalism in workplace attire.

Smart casual is where it's at, and logo'd polo shirts would bring more professionalism and sense of a "team" to the assembly line, versus someone showing up in ripped clothing just to collect a paycheck. They're building the company's flagship car, for god's sake.

Foosh

LOL . . . it's the same person regardless of whether they're wearing a uniform or not.

Tom73

Thank you. It is hard to believe that so-called professional people can be soooooo stupid.

punky

How could it possibly take 6 months to resolve an electrical issue(s)?

Mikec7z

this has been covered in other threads. If you like, i will do the searching for you when I get the time, since it is not something you can sort out on your own


Edit:
Pretty sure some people with experience in electronics and vehicle production, chime in somewhere in this thread.

if not, ill look again and see if there is another thread about the topic, which has the explainations

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...cal-issue.html

Old School

By your reasoning they can just come to work in a bath robe because why not . . same guy right, who cares if they look like a slob

Foosh

No, that's your reasoning not mine. You asked me which one I wanted building my car. I said, it's the same person whether he/she is wearing an oompa-loompa suit or not. What does that have to do with bathrobes?

Now if someone shows up in a bathrobe, I suspect mental health professionals would become involved, and he probably wouldn't be doing anything at the plant for awhile or ever again.

I'm sure Porsche has fired plenty of workers over time, even though they were perfectly dressed in spiffy uniforms.

Skid Row Joe

​​​​​​​Eastern block Olympic Power lifters of old.....

Red67John

Looks like Santa’s workshop. Im pretty sure the UAW will never accept uniforms in a contract, and yes, it would have to be negotiated.

In the 70’s, when I worked at the St. Louis plant while going to college part time, GM provided coveralls se employee whose jobs were hazardous or extremely dirty but it was the minority of the workforce. Don’t tell GM but I still have a pair of those fashionable old blue striped denim coveralls. OMG

Mcrider

The delay will end when they no longer have a 273 day supply of C7's on dealer lots to get rid of, that's 9000 corvettes.

Red67John

Buyers of the R8C Museum Delivery get just that, Museum delivery, and they have throughout the suspension of the plant tours. The plant tour is a separate thing the customer hopes to enjoy while they are at the Museum.

RapidC84B

Nah... GM already sold those.