C8 retains Stingray name
#61
Burning Brakes
Hey Tool... Why would they have a tall center tunnel (FE sized tunnel to accommodate the drive shaft) that is clearly shown in the Carscoops leaked Interior photos? There is no reason to have a tall FE sized tunnel that normally has the large Torque tube and wiring harnesses contained within it. The Zerv leaks clearly show a shallow 3"-4" high tunnel which is way lower than what is needed since there is no torque tube going through the passenger compartment. We know that the center section of the chassis will work for either FE or ME configurations by bolting on the appropriate front chassis frames or rear chassis frames. We established that last year when reviewing the Zerv leaks. This leads me to believe that the center chassis section will accomodate both FE and ME interior layout systems that will rout all the 48V wiring runs to the same position whether FE or ME. Elegant and I discussed this at great length with others on the efficiencies of duel functioning chassis system that clearly is shown on the Zerv leaks and verfied by many. While these Carscoop photos may show the ME I'm now thinking the FE will have essentially the same interior layout for reduntantcy.
#62
Pro
Skank, your theory is very sound and let's confirm that by looking at the Zerv image that supports it. See attached and recognize that while this supports your statement, it still leaves one question unanswered: Is this truly what GM has in mind? My personal take on things is that this is a new car, basically from the ground up, and will have new characteristics throughtout, however, the potential flexibility of having a single center section for both ME and FE surely works well in the fiscal department as well as in uniform assembly techniques.
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#63
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For comparison, here is the frame of the current C7. Notice under the robot arm and the carrier locks that the center section is considerably deeper! It appears at least 8" - 10" high.
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#64
The year is 2023, the ME C8 is it it's 4th year of production. Skank is still feverishly posting about the FE car just around the corner.
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#66
Racer
The big center tube has to be for AWD, right? I wonder if it’s designed like the new 911 generation: launch with RWD, then build AWD if there is demand/tech makes sense.
#67
If the car ever has AWD it will be separate electric front drive. Center tunel is for coolant and for driver storage.
#68
Melting Slicks
The design intent of a common center chassis frame section will allow a hierarchal Interior system that has component locations that will work for either FE or ME. For instance, this new photo shows a deep tunnel with a cascading center section that matches a C7 convertible cascading center section. This new photo clearly shows speaker grill holes at the top where a Bose Panaray sound system woofer would logically be located. By virtue of that design it could work with both FE and ME C8 generations.
Last edited by skank; 03-09-2019 at 10:23 AM.
#69
Melting Slicks
Or another big question is, why would the Corvette designers have a interior design that accommodates a tall tunnel (C7 tunnel height) when the zerv leaks show a shallow tunnel? There are many on this forum that have questioned, why can't they have a more open space center section between the seats that are like the Ferrari 488? That gives a more open space feeling.
Last edited by skank; 03-09-2019 at 10:51 AM.
#70
Drifting
Hey Tool... Why would they have a tall center tunnel (FE sized tunnel to accommodate the drive shaft) that is clearly shown in the Carscoops leaked Interior photos? There is no reason to have a tall FE sized tunnel that normally has the large Torque tube and wiring harnesses contained within it. The Zerv leaks clearly show a shallow 3"-4" high tunnel which is way lower than what is needed since there is no torque tube going through the passenger compartment. We know that the center section of the chassis will work for either FE or ME configurations by bolting on the appropriate front chassis frames or rear chassis frames. We established that last year when reviewing the Zerv leaks. This leads me to believe that the center chassis section will accomodate both FE and ME interior layout systems that will rout all the 48V wiring runs to the same position whether FE or ME. Elegant and I discussed this at great length with others on the efficiencies of duel functioning chassis system that clearly is shown on the Zerv leaks and verfied by many. While these Carscoop photos may show the ME I'm now thinking the FE will have essentially the same interior layout for reduntantcy. See the discussion starting around post #190 on the Code-Name-Zerv thread.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-zerv-10.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-zerv-10.html
#71
Drifting
That tunnel is way too shallow for a torque tube to run through. I would also like to point out there is not room for a bell housing on the rear of the motor. Look at the C7 frame, you can see the flared area. That is for the bell housing that feeds into the torque tube.
I believe there is a shallow tunnel for battery and cooling lines. In future models there will be additional lines/batteries in this area for electrical assist AWD.
I believe there is a shallow tunnel for battery and cooling lines. In future models there will be additional lines/batteries in this area for electrical assist AWD.
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#72
Burning Brakes
I can definitely see the reasons both for/against the idea of a dual FE/ME production (whether both are called “Corvette” or not), but I currently tend toward the end of the FE production, at least for a while.
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They should have went with ZORA for all the C8s including the base, but I'm just happy it wasn't "Manta-Ray".
#74
My local dealer told me the ONLY thing they have been told officially is that the Stingray name will go away and the ME Corvette will be named Zora.
#75
Stingray dies with the C7.
The nameplate you see in this mule has nothing to do with the car, lots of parts in this specific mule are just placement pieces, including the steering wheel.
As I've said before, these photo's were taken long ago, it was only until now that the owner of the photos decided to sell them to carscoops.
Full stop.
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#76
Not bad.
Same here.
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The Stingray name will continue with the C8. But like I always say, time will tell.
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^^^^
Well, now that we have the NAME established, let's bust on some Tesla *** some more....that was fun.
Well, now that we have the NAME established, let's bust on some Tesla *** some more....that was fun.