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Old 03-15-2019, 12:15 PM
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Not really, he is just regurgitating information that was already previously released.
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It's yet another re-hash of that Haggerty article.
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Another magazine quoting a magazine that's quoting "sources".
I wonder how many times the "sources" are those who speculate right here on Corvette Forums.
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Another magazine quoting a magazine that's quoting "sources".
I wonder how many times the "sources" are those who speculate right here on Corvette Forums.
Hold on, let me check my sources (online searches).
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You can bet GM will build darn few C8s for anywhere near base price, and why should they? The early adopters will lay out their money for whatever they can get their hands on, so GM will make them pay dearly, as they always have. GM will load up early dealer stock orders.
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The pricing is really a question of where Corvette wants to position the ME: 1) an attainable, everyman sports car, or 2) a Porsche killer that can beat anything, anywhere.

The first option gets you a LT1 with 40 more hp and 8 speed AT for $60-65K. The car is faster than the current GS 0-60 and on the track, but not much.

The second option gets you a LT4 and a DCT for $100K +. The car is faster than any Porsche and the ZR1.

The second option also means the FE continues (Stingray & GS) with upgrades all around and virtually the same price.

The first option seems pointless with a high probability of failure.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
The pricing is really a question of where Corvette wants to position the ME: 1) an attainable, everyman sports car, or 2) a Porsche killer that can beat anything, anywhere.

The first option gets you a LT1 with 40 more hp and 8 speed AT for $60-65K. The car is faster than the current GS 0-60 and on the track, but not much.

The second option gets you a LT4 and a DCT for $100K +. The car is faster than any Porsche and the ZR1.

The second option also means the FE continues (Stingray & GS) with upgrades all around and virtually the same price.

The first option seems pointless with a high probability of failure.
Secret option #3:
$60,000-$70,000 for the Base model with ~500hp and a 7-Speed DCT, faster than a C7 GS

$90,000-$120,000 for the Mid-tier with 700-800hp and the DCT, 720s-beating performance with the traction to put it’s power power down.

Imagine the Porsche CEO’s face when he learns that GM has a car with the price of a 911 Carrera S but the performance on a 911 GT2 RS
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Who really cares what the price is? If I like it and want one I'll buy it.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
The first option gets you a LT1 with 40 more hp and 8 speed AT for $60-65K. The car is faster than the current GS 0-60 and on the track, but not much.

The second option gets you a LT4 and a DCT for $100K +. The car is faster than any Porsche and the ZR1.

The second option also means the FE continues (Stingray & GS) with upgrades all around and virtually the same price.

The first option seems pointless with a high probability of failure.
Or, your first option is the base car, and your second option is your GS/Z06/ZR1 option, both in ME, exactly as it’s done now.

If a base ME with those specs is a high probability of failure at $60k, why wouldn’t the same apply to a continued FE?
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Originally Posted by Quinten33
Secret option #3:
$60,000-$70,000 for the Base model with ~500hp and a 7-Speed DCT, faster than a C7 GS
$70K for the base model is not viable. Only 3,300 Corvettes sold in 2018 were at or above that price point. 32% of Corvettes sold were Stingray coupes.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
$70K for the base model is not viable. Only 3,300 Corvettes sold in 2018 were at or above that price point. 32% of Corvettes sold were Stingray coupes.
Umm...he didn't say 70k, he said 60k-70k. I know, words are hard for you.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk

If a base ME with those specs is a high probability of failure at $60k, why wouldn’t the same apply to a continued FE?
Traditional Corvette buyers, i.e., those who want the FE proportions, manual trans, cargo space, for a $55K price point are a different market segment. Toyota has figured this out. There is no 2019 ME sports car available for under $60K.
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Originally Posted by Sub Driver
Umm...he didn't say 70k, he said 60k-70k. I know, words are hard for you.
32% of the Corvette market in 2018 had a base price under $60K. I know numbers are hard for you.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
The pricing is really a question of where Corvette wants to position the ME: 1) an attainable, everyman sports car, or 2) a Porsche killer that can beat anything, anywhere.

The first option gets you a LT1 with 40 more hp and 8 speed AT for $60-65K. The car is faster than the current GS 0-60 and on the track, but not much.

The second option gets you a LT4 and a DCT for $100K +. The car is faster than any Porsche and the ZR1.

The second option also means the FE continues (Stingray & GS) with upgrades all around and virtually the same price.

The first option seems pointless with a high probability of failure.
Faster than any Porsche? What sort of crack did you light up this morning? Must be good stuff! The 911 GT2 RS and 918 are worlds ahead of any Vette on the planet right now. It is going to take a lot for the new C8 to be faster than both.
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Originally Posted by Y2KRoadster
Faster than any Porsche? What sort of crack did you light up this morning? Must be good stuff! The 911 GT2 RS and 918 are worlds ahead of any Vette on the planet right now. It is going to take a lot for the new C8 to be faster than both.
Yeah, might need to upgrade to the LT5 with the carbon fiber brakes, of course, to beat the GT2. The ME should have better aero along with the superior engine placement.

The 918 is long dead and gone. Not relevant anymore.
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Originally Posted by PCMIII
There is no 2019 ME sports car available for under $60K.
A) whens the last time you actually saw a $55k sticker price Corvette available anywhere but special order?
B) why wouldn't a ME priced in the vicinity of the current FE be just as successful?
C) show me ANY study or survey that shows people won't buy a $60k ME sports car if one was offered
D) the Porsche Boxster is a ME car that starts under $60k. History has been littered with them. There is exactly zero manufacturing reason they can't exist.

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Originally Posted by PCMIII
32% of the Corvette market in 2018 had a base price under $60K. I know numbers are hard for you.
Is that right? Show me where 32% had a base price under 60k. Oh wait, you cannot. Here are the real numbers since I know this is real difficult for you.
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2018...te-model-year/
18.1% were ordered with the 1LT package. It goes without saying that it doesn't mean there were not other options added to raise the price. For example, of the 3068 stingray coupes produced, 716 had the Z51 package which means some of that 18.1% was definitely over 60k so the real percentage is even lower. Anything else you want me to prove you wrong about?

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Can the sub $60k ME sports car exist? Sure. I guess where I start to have serious doubts is a sub $60k ME sports car with mag ride, DCT standard, mag motor mounts, Global B electronics, 48V, 500+hp, etc, etc etc... the list of "new technologies" and wiz bang things this car is supposed to have standard makes it really hard to believe.

If they can do it and have an interior at least as nice as the C7 (and hopefully nicer), then damn, how are they making money? But if so and it looks and performs well, I won't hesitate.

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Originally Posted by MagRedConv
Who really cares what the price is? If I like it and want one I'll buy it.
Is your post an attempt to compensate for having a tiny wiener?

Lots of Corvette owners here can afford pricier cars.
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