Will the C8 have the typical GM build quality?
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Will the C8 have the typical GM build quality?
I’m guessing it probably will. It will also probably use the same cheap Chinese electronics that begin to fail after a few years.
GM has been very disappointing in the last few years.
GM has been very disappointing in the last few years.
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04-03-2019, 01:16 PM
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The megabuck cars don't have lower failure rates. Do your homework.
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I was utterly thrilled with my C7’s value:price. Far from “disappointed”.
That said, I admit I do have a higher overall expectation for this C8.
If they do not meet my personal quality threshold, there are many other options out there, but the cost of entry will certainly be higher, which is essentially what it all boils down to.
Does much else need to be said on this?
That said, I admit I do have a higher overall expectation for this C8.
If they do not meet my personal quality threshold, there are many other options out there, but the cost of entry will certainly be higher, which is essentially what it all boils down to.
Does much else need to be said on this?
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GM quality is what has kept a Corvette out of my garage for many years now. The C7 was (and still might) be the exception, it's pretty close to the fit and finish and feel that I am looking for. If they improve all of that with the C8 and don't create a lemon in the process, then one will be in my garage.
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Agree with all above.
I want to love the Corvette and I recognize that the R&D engineer teams do great work. Unfortunately, when it comes time to mass produce consumer vehicles, the cost cutting shows and build quality leaves much to be desired.
I want to love the Corvette and I recognize that the R&D engineer teams do great work. Unfortunately, when it comes time to mass produce consumer vehicles, the cost cutting shows and build quality leaves much to be desired.
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The megabuck cars don't have lower failure rates. Do your homework.
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The only sport car to make Consumer Reports "recommended list" is the 2016 and later C7 Corvette. No Porsche, no Ferrari, not even a Miata or BRZ.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/10/...ommended-list/
Here is Car and Driver's report on putting 40,000+ miles on a 2017 GS.
Months in Fleet: 14 months Final Mileage: 40,003 miles
Average Fuel Economy: 20 mpg
Fuel Tank Size: 18.5 gal Observed Fuel Range: 370 miles
Service:$527 Normal Wear: $0 Repair: $0
People want reliability of a Toyota and the performance of a Ferrari
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Corvette value proposition
Fast.
Well built.
Cheap.
As they say, choose 2.
Having said that my wife and I have flogged our '17 Z06 for more than 5000 miles on the track since we got it. Zero problems.
We are happy with the quality appearance. The Black Rose Metallic paint had no flaws that I could find. Never been passed by a Ferrari at HPDE. (but then I have never been on the track with one, what do those guys do with their cars?). And since it was, relatively because 100K is never cheap, inexpensive, I feel like I got all three.
I am not sure what would lead me to trade for a C8, but it won't stop me from looking
Paul
Well built.
Cheap.
As they say, choose 2.
Having said that my wife and I have flogged our '17 Z06 for more than 5000 miles on the track since we got it. Zero problems.
We are happy with the quality appearance. The Black Rose Metallic paint had no flaws that I could find. Never been passed by a Ferrari at HPDE. (but then I have never been on the track with one, what do those guys do with their cars?). And since it was, relatively because 100K is never cheap, inexpensive, I feel like I got all three.
I am not sure what would lead me to trade for a C8, but it won't stop me from looking
Paul
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St. Jude Donor '06-'08-'10-'11-'12-'13 '14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19
PS, Porsche, Miata, Subarus, and many others on the list.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars...ecommendations
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Sure, they do a good job of testing things like home-use dishwashers.
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GM seems to get the mechanical and performance bits very very right.
It's the paint quality and assembly consistency where they keep falling down.
Put another way, the engineering seems very good, the UAW workers putting the cars together not so much. My C7 had more paint/fit issues than any of my C5s ever had. Even now you see horror stories of $150,000 ZR1s coming with chipping paint, mis-matched panels, mis-matched carbon fiber (dull vs. gloss), bumpers coming loose.
Then you get the apologists who say "well for the price..." and "But the performance...". If I work my butt off for a special car it better have better panel fit and gaps than a Toyota.
It's the paint quality and assembly consistency where they keep falling down.
Put another way, the engineering seems very good, the UAW workers putting the cars together not so much. My C7 had more paint/fit issues than any of my C5s ever had. Even now you see horror stories of $150,000 ZR1s coming with chipping paint, mis-matched panels, mis-matched carbon fiber (dull vs. gloss), bumpers coming loose.
Then you get the apologists who say "well for the price..." and "But the performance...". If I work my butt off for a special car it better have better panel fit and gaps than a Toyota.
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Of course they will have the same, or slightly improved build and paint quality. We're talking about a mass produced vehicle made by the same people who are building them now. Do NOT expect huge improvements for the modest price point increase. It's still "just a Corvette" after all...or is it?
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I hate comments like this.... this and various other apologists are why GM keeps falling short on fit/finish quality. Personally, $60,000 is a lot of money and I work hard for that money and I want to enjoy the "reward" for that hard work. It's not "Just a Corvette..." it's the fruit of my labors and something I'm passionate about. If I can't enjoy a brand new car as a "brand new car" then what's the point? If I buy one used then it is what it is.
Is the car cheaper than the competition? Yes. However, we often forget that the median household income in this country is still less than the cost of a car like a Corvette. (It's $61K as of 2018).
Is the car cheaper than the competition? Yes. However, we often forget that the median household income in this country is still less than the cost of a car like a Corvette. (It's $61K as of 2018).
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That doesn't fix misaligned panels, inconsistent gaps, and orver-torqued fasteners that crack the SMC composite. When I took my front fascia off to do my grill I found both fenders broken from a careless assembly worker who juiced the headlight bolts on too tight.
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