New Corvette-why not reuse old design?
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New Corvette-why not reuse old design?
This question has been on my mind for a while now. Maybe there are reasons why this does not happen but I always wondered.....
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
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04-13-2019, 06:33 AM
Because a lot of people wouldn't buy what is seen as an old design. I sure wouldn't.
Other than a few die hard, old school C6 fans, the re-release of that design would be a failure for GM and they would lose the new buyers they are trying to attract. Design evolves, preferences evolve... some people get stuck in history or just want it to never change but that's only a few people.
You may not like the C8 design (like some didn't like the C7 at first), but it is continued needed progress and evolution and many people love it and it will attract new buyers. There is already a discussion on the Porsche forums with people talking about leaving Porsche. A re-release of the C6 design would have the opposite impact except to please a small number of owners stuck in history.
Other than a few die hard, old school C6 fans, the re-release of that design would be a failure for GM and they would lose the new buyers they are trying to attract. Design evolves, preferences evolve... some people get stuck in history or just want it to never change but that's only a few people.
You may not like the C8 design (like some didn't like the C7 at first), but it is continued needed progress and evolution and many people love it and it will attract new buyers. There is already a discussion on the Porsche forums with people talking about leaving Porsche. A re-release of the C6 design would have the opposite impact except to please a small number of owners stuck in history.
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Because a lot of people wouldn't buy what is seen as an old design. I sure wouldn't.
Other than a few die hard, old school C6 fans, the re-release of that design would be a failure for GM and they would lose the new buyers they are trying to attract. Design evolves, preferences evolve... some people get stuck in history or just want it to never change but that's only a few people.
You may not like the C8 design (like some didn't like the C7 at first), but it is continued needed progress and evolution and many people love it and it will attract new buyers. There is already a discussion on the Porsche forums with people talking about leaving Porsche. A re-release of the C6 design would have the opposite impact except to please a small number of owners stuck in history.
Other than a few die hard, old school C6 fans, the re-release of that design would be a failure for GM and they would lose the new buyers they are trying to attract. Design evolves, preferences evolve... some people get stuck in history or just want it to never change but that's only a few people.
You may not like the C8 design (like some didn't like the C7 at first), but it is continued needed progress and evolution and many people love it and it will attract new buyers. There is already a discussion on the Porsche forums with people talking about leaving Porsche. A re-release of the C6 design would have the opposite impact except to please a small number of owners stuck in history.
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Yeah - very few people want new innards on old car designs.
Although those old hardtop convertible Lexus SC430s I'm seeing people rehabbing and driving all over Dallas would be perfect for such a thing... so maybe you're onto something, after all.
Although those old hardtop convertible Lexus SC430s I'm seeing people rehabbing and driving all over Dallas would be perfect for such a thing... so maybe you're onto something, after all.
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The C6 market was already fairly saturated, and sales were declining. Hence the C7, and then the C8.
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I guess if they want to make a new design why can't they make it better than old designs. Why can't they hit it out of the park with nice flowing lines. I guess it don't matter if people are putting down deposits on cars without even seeing them. Just because it is newer by no means it is better. Why can't GM bring out designs that rival Ferrari, Lamborghini etc.... Surely to create an amazing design on a car compared to bad design the cost difference will not be all that much.
If I look at the car designs on the street in this era you have to wonder who the hell are designing these cars. Some just look horrendous. But if the most important thing to a car these days is for the build date to be new release then nothing else really matters.
I guess I am in the minority of people buying cars that are actually nicely designed and not by build year. I just hope the C8 looks a lot different to the latest pictures once it gets revealed.
If I look at the car designs on the street in this era you have to wonder who the hell are designing these cars. Some just look horrendous. But if the most important thing to a car these days is for the build date to be new release then nothing else really matters.
I guess I am in the minority of people buying cars that are actually nicely designed and not by build year. I just hope the C8 looks a lot different to the latest pictures once it gets revealed.
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This question has been on my mind for a while now. Maybe there are reasons why this does not happen but I always wondered.....
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
Hopefully the c8 will be s light normally aspirated car with 600 hp
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I guess if they want to make a new design why can't they make it better than old designs. Why can't they hit it out of the park with nice flowing lines. I guess it don't matter if people are putting down deposits on cars without even seeing them. Just because it is newer by no means it is better. Why can't GM bring out designs that rival Ferrari, Lamborghini etc.... Surely to create an amazing design on a car compared to bad design the cost difference will not be all that much.
If I look at the car designs on the street in this era you have to wonder who the hell are designing these cars. Some just look horrendous. But if the most important thing to a car these days is for the build date to be new release then nothing else really matters.
I guess I am in the minority of people buying cars that are actually nicely designed and not by build year. I just hope the C8 looks a lot different to the latest pictures once it gets revealed.
If I look at the car designs on the street in this era you have to wonder who the hell are designing these cars. Some just look horrendous. But if the most important thing to a car these days is for the build date to be new release then nothing else really matters.
I guess I am in the minority of people buying cars that are actually nicely designed and not by build year. I just hope the C8 looks a lot different to the latest pictures once it gets revealed.
My personal opinion is the C8 will, in fact, be BETTER than the old designs. I don't buy just a "new" car based on build year but only cars I believe are nicely designed. My opinion is most people are the same. Just because YOU don't like the design of the C8 and are stuck on older models does not preclude a lot of people liking/loving the new design of the C8 (which we still haven't truly seen). Personal taste varies and some people just don't like new things. That's fine but what you are suggesting above is, as I said, a bit silly.
This EXACT same thing happened with the C7 and it turned out that a lot of people loved the design, it sold really well and was a huge success. The C8 will be no different regardless as to whether some people can't get past the early 2000's.
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This is a bit of a silly post with all due respect. Design is subjective. People don't buy cars they think are ugly. Just because YOU don't like more modern and current design does not mean most (or even very many) people share your perspective.
My personal opinion is the C8 will, in fact, be BETTER than the old designs. I don't buy just a "new" car based on build year but only cars I believe are nicely designed. My opinion is most people are the same. Just because YOU don't like the design of the C8 and are stuck on older models does not preclude a lot of people liking/loving the new design of the C8 (which we still haven't truly seen). Personal taste varies and some people just don't like new things. That's fine but what you are suggesting above is, as I said, a bit silly.
This EXACT same thing happened with the C7 and it turned out that a lot of people loved the design, it sold really well and was a huge success. The C8 will be no different regardless as to whether some people can't get past the early 2000's.
My personal opinion is the C8 will, in fact, be BETTER than the old designs. I don't buy just a "new" car based on build year but only cars I believe are nicely designed. My opinion is most people are the same. Just because YOU don't like the design of the C8 and are stuck on older models does not preclude a lot of people liking/loving the new design of the C8 (which we still haven't truly seen). Personal taste varies and some people just don't like new things. That's fine but what you are suggesting above is, as I said, a bit silly.
This EXACT same thing happened with the C7 and it turned out that a lot of people loved the design, it sold really well and was a huge success. The C8 will be no different regardless as to whether some people can't get past the early 2000's.
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Because people who come up with these ideas don;t really have a grasp on exactly what goes into producing a car, or have much of an understanding of the automotive market. The Corvette is a fringe car most non-launch years anyhow, operating on the margins of what makes sense for GM to continue producing. There is no want or desire for GM to produce 500 C6s a year when they are selling 20k C8s in 2022.
Now, if you want to talk about something like a C2 styled cheap roadster, the way Ford did a retro T-Bird or GM played with the SSR a few years back, I could MAYBE see an argument. Bring a stock C6 back? Nah.
Now, if you want to talk about something like a C2 styled cheap roadster, the way Ford did a retro T-Bird or GM played with the SSR a few years back, I could MAYBE see an argument. Bring a stock C6 back? Nah.
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Now if all you want is better interior materials and smartphone integration / digital dash, there are vendors who can help you do that to your own C6.
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This question has been on my mind for a while now. Maybe there are reasons why this does not happen but I always wondered.....
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
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This concept is pretty strong in the restomod community.
A very popular (and expensive) trend for Corvette enthusiasts has been updating early generations (C1 & C2) with present day technology/performance.
I've seen numerous examples cross the blocks on Barrett-Jackson and Mecum auctions... pulling serious money.
I would imagine though that this wouldn't be a profitable approach for major manufacturers that need a certain volume of sales. The demand wouldn't be there to sustain it.
A very popular (and expensive) trend for Corvette enthusiasts has been updating early generations (C1 & C2) with present day technology/performance.
I've seen numerous examples cross the blocks on Barrett-Jackson and Mecum auctions... pulling serious money.
I would imagine though that this wouldn't be a profitable approach for major manufacturers that need a certain volume of sales. The demand wouldn't be there to sustain it.
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I’m looking forward to new ideas. Not reissues of C6, and especially C5.
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This question has been on my mind for a while now. Maybe there are reasons why this does not happen but I always wondered.....
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
For example why not remake the C6 style corvette but with the added technology of now and make those? The body molds GM would still have the. Concentrate on a new interior, new electrics and you have a new corvette that kills it.
Is this not done to protect the 2nd hand market industry of that model? Seems like car designs are going down hill but the technology aspect is going forward. From the latest pictures this new C8 looks like it is going to be a let down design wise.
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I previously suggested for GM to emulate the Ferrari 812 Superfast...move the engine back about a foot and add front wheel drive making it all wheel drive. I hope the C8 looks a lot better without the camo, now it looks a little ungainly, I like the long hood short back look.